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With the release of jaguar will come a slew of new apps including
Virtual PC 5.1, my sources say that Virtual PC 5.1 has up to 40% speed improvement over 5.0.2
This is because of jaguar mainly, Remeber a while ago when connectix said VPC would never be as fast a OS9 because of the way 10.1 is built
but this will all chage with the release of jaguar, maybe it's because of the quartz extreme.....I don't know.
but for all VPC users this looks good
 
Mac15, no offense here ok. Is your source a beta tester? Someone that works there? Just trying to figure it out. Thanks, in advance. I hope that it is accurate. That would be a massive improvement in one release.
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac
Mac15, no offense here ok. Is your source a beta tester? Someone that works there? Just trying to figure it out. Thanks, in advance. I hope that it is accurate. That would be a massive improvement in one release.

Backtothemac, I must say I really enjoy your posts. Many would jump on this guy and call him a liar etc, but you always keep it civil. I noticed this with the recent flame wars and really appreciate your contributions.
 
you rock backtothemac

your super mellow and thats whats cool about you
 
Originally posted by BeerDrinker29


Backtothemac, I must say I really enjoy your posts. Many would jump on this guy and call him a liar etc, but you always keep it civil. I noticed this with the recent flame wars and really appreciate your contributions.

Thank you for the props. I try to keep things intelligent. Ranting doesn't do anyone any good. There is always try to keep a level head. Hey, I was a doorman at a bar in New Orleans on Burbon Street. You have to be able to keep calm with that job. That experience helps with a lot in my life.

I also asked because I beta tested for Connectix both VPC 3, and VPC 4. I haven't been able to get back in touch with them to do any development on three, but would like to work on 6 ;)
 
Re: Virtual PC 5.1 in the works

Originally posted by mac15
With the release of jaguar will come a slew of new apps including
Virtual PC 5.1, my sources say that Virtual PC 5.1 has up to 40% speed improvement over 5.0.2
This is because of jaguar mainly, Remeber a while ago when connectix said VPC would never be as fast a OS9 because of the way 10.1 is built
but this will all chage with the release of jaguar, maybe it's because of the quartz extreme.....I don't know.
but for all VPC users this looks good

BTW, I am currently trying to decide between the bew iBook, and selling a kidney and getting the TiBook, and here is a quote from Connectix support dealing with what different aspects of the machines effect VPC performance. A lot of this makes sense, but I figured I'd post it since it is an official(or semi anyway) descriptopn

The PowerBook G4 (TiBook) will give you noticably better performance.
I don't have specific benchmarcks for particular models, but here's a quick discussion of the various factors:

Level 3 (L3) Cache: When processor speeds are relatively close, the presence of the L3 cache will usually have the biggest effect on performance. VPC often translates a block of x86 code which is then called repeatedly. An L3 cache can often hold an entire block, which avoids the slow loading of the block from main RAM accross the system bus.

Of Apple's currently shipping models, the 933 MHz Power Mac G4, Dual 1 GHz Power Mac G4, and PowerBook G4s have L3 caches. The 800 MHz Power Mac G4, iMacs, iBooks, and eMacs do not.

Processor Speed: When all else is equal, more is better. VPC is compute intensive, so a 20% faster processor will usually feel 20% faster.

Bus Speed: A faster bus will usually yield a noticable speed increase. VPC often has to transfer a lot of data to and from RAM over the system bus.

Dual Processors: A minor but noticable speed increase. Because VPC emulates a single Pentium, most of Virtual PC must run on a single processor. However, video updates can be offloaded to a second processor, freeing up the primary processor for an emulation speed increase around 15%.

AltiVec: A minor speed increase on single-processor G4s, probably only noticable with a stopwatch. Pentium emulation does not take advantage of AltiVec because there is no AltiVec equivalent in the Pentium instruction set. However, video updates take advantage of AltiVec if these have not already been offloaded to a second processor.

Hard Drive Speed: Performance depends on what Windows is doing. Disk intensive operations like booting Windows will be faster on desktop machines.
 
I run VPC at work all day long. It is very stable, and very responsive. The only OS that really doesn't run well on it is XP. It is such a bloated pig that it is just too much to emulate with any real speed. Now on an XServe, or one of the MWNY PowerMacs, that will probably be a different story. I would save the kidney, and go with the the iBook. :p
 
hi everyone, this is my first post :D...
wow, VPC for windows is still in 4x series lol, i've used VPC on xp, n damn its basically really slow on my wintel puter...
i use a mac at school basically every day (mon-fri) and always use vpc 2.1 for os 8.6 and win 95 (ya all their software is basically outdated) and its basically the same 2 me as if you actually bought a wintel machine (old one tho) with win 95 on it... pretty fast mouse, doesnt take a year for the OS to start up (like linux on vpc for windows), but then again lots of illegal opperations when running ie 3x (yes ie 3x) or office 97 lol but then again, most ms software is buggy ;)

i'm planning on buying a mac between august-november n i cant wait :D
 
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