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With 674 days of age the 24" iMac is up for a big upgrade this year, not just a minor spec bump to M2. And many are hoping for the large iMac to return at 27-inch or even larger. But what if they don't make it any taller, but wider to 6720×2880 (21:9) or 19.4 megapixels? Right now there is no display in Apple's lineup to play tv+ content in widescreen format. You either have black bars on top and bottom or you need to cut off the edges. Or even worse, you rely on a third-party TV set and Apple has no control over the audio and video quality at all. I think it's inevitable that Apple needs a 21:9 product, when they film shows in 21:9. Do you agree?
 
Apple doesn‘t serve niche markets.
Mainstream such as 5K monitors? Apple's strategy is to create unique selling propositions for all of its products. A slightly larger 16:9 iMac wouldn't demand a much higher price. And the iMac only became 16:10 (2005) and then 16:9 (2009), because that was the new upcoming video format at the time. If the iMac is supposed to be the perfect video editing machine, shouldn't it then be able to display the whole video fullscreen? The display format they pick today will be with us for the coming decade, so it's not important how niche it is right now.
 
As a long-term user of iMac 27" (more than a decade), when my last one conked, I got mentally committed to NOT going with an all-in-one again. Why? Because when any one part conks or when Apple obsoletes it with macOS updates, ALL of it has to go. It was a historically great value going in but terrible at the end. I now have a perfectly good, 5K monitor that probably has 5+ years of useful life in it just sitting there inside a dead iMac doing nothing.

I also need select access to Windows and a conked intel iMac took full bootcamp with it too. I knew Silicon would only- at best- ever get ARM Windows- which is not full Windows- so I started thinking about the organic "boot camp" option of getting a dedicated PC too. There are plenty of Mac-Mini-like PCs available and they are generally much cheaper than Macs. A budget for 4-7 generations of Parallels would buy good PC hardware likely to remain compatible with Windows for 10+ years. I went more towards Apple Mac pricing and got a small gaming PC to scratch that "fun" itch too.

Could I get a monitor that had inputs for both: ONE monitor for BOTH computers? Yes, there's lots of that... just not from our favorite tech maker. So the "separates" thinking led me to exploring ultrawides as my new screen. Maybe I could find one that could even "split screen" at times where I could have MacOS in an iMac-like almost square screen and Windows in the other half?

Sure enough, I found a 40" 5K2K ultra wide from Dell that covers all bases. Paired with Logi MX Keys keyboard, I can push one button to switch keyboard from Mac to Windows and back again. The monitor has a pretty great hub built into it to allow even more than 2 inputs, plus a good selection of USB jacks, ethernet, etc too. Hooking a few hubs and a speaker system up to the hub in the monitor, BOTH Mac and PC can "take over" hub connections and quality speaker audio.

Long story short: the abundance of added screen RE is a "can never go back to 16:10" driver. Once you get to use Mac on an ultra-wide, everything else feels incredibly cramped. I didn't realize how much scrolling I was doing until I had the width to not have to scroll so much.

For those not wanting to wait on Apple to perhaps or perhaps NEVER roll out a iMac UW, you could get the bulk of that now by embracing separates (Mini or Studio) and pairing it with any of several great Ultra-Wide options available now. Bonus: when Apple makes the tech guts of that hypothetical iMAC UW obsolete, us separates people can simply replace the Mac portion and keep using our good screen (often good for 10+ years). Bonus 2: if you need full bootcamp... or ANYTHING ELSE you have needs a desktop screen too... plug the other stuff in and easily switch inputs instead of switching ONE cable on a single video input.

I think an iMac UW would be great. But because of the planned obsolescence approach in play at modern Apple, I'd never lock in with a locked down, all-in-one again. The added screen RE is amazing and more productive than I expected. Anyone interested should at least try it and see for yourself. Take your MB into a shop that will let you hook it up and try macOS on a much wider UW screen. It won't take long to appreciate the added work/play space.
 
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There is a huge number of 21:9 monitors on the market, on more coming, so it is very much not a niche market.
A 21:9" standalone display's potential customers include the vast army of PC and games console users.

A 21:9 iMac's potential customers are people who (a) wanted a Mac (one niche) and (b) wanted an iMac rather than the far more popular MacBook (another niche). It's a niche within a niche within a niche.

It's the difference between having 0.1% of the market in China and 0.1% of the market in Luxembourg.

Sorry, folks, but the 5k iMac/iMac Pro (let alone exotic 21:9 variations) ceased to make sense when (a) Apple Silicon pretty much removed the performance difference between the MacBook Pro and the iMac, (b) the Mac Mini and Mac Studio finally offered a decently powered desktop Mac that let you choose your own displays and (c) Apple themselves started selling a choice of displays (with more, possibly, to come). Each of those calved a big slice off the potential 5k iMac market.
 
For those not wanting to wait on Apple to perhaps or perhaps not EVER roll out a iMac UW, you could get the bulk of that now by embracing separate (Mini or Studio) and pairing it with any of several great Ultra-Wide options available now. Bonus: when Apple makes the tech guts of that hypothetical iMAC UW obsolete, us separates people can simply replace the Mac portion and keep using our good screen. Bonus 2: if you need full bootcamp... or ANYTHING ELSE you have needs a desktop screen too... plug the other stuff in and switch inputs.
This.

I only bought my 2017 iMac because there was no viable "headless" Mac available at the time (2013 Trashcan vs. 2014 worst.Mac.Mini.Ever). Don't get me wrong - it was a decent machine that served me well and the display was really nice but, as predicted, now I've upgraded to a Studio I'm left with a nice 27" aluminium fireguard that is only usable when set up on its own desk, because the computer and display can't be used separately. If I'd been able to get a headless system in 2017 I'd have had a handy Intel Mac that could KVM with my Studio for Bootcamp, plus... well, I'd probably have kept whatever displays I'd bought in 2017.

The "loss" has been the < $2000 low-end 5k iMacs, but I suspect they had just become uneconomical (by Apple standards) - it always did feel like you were getting a high-end display with a free Mac thrown in. The 24" is probably a more sensible size if you want an all-in-one that doesn't take over your desktop, and its more powerful than the old low-end 5k iMacs.
 
Mainstream such as 5K monitors?

Apple created the market for 5K monitors because they wanted what they define as „retina“ on the desktop. Even then they didn‘t want to serve it themselves beyond the 5K iMac and made that deal with LG for the „Ultrafine“ standalone displays. In other words, Apple really wanted 5K displays as it was necessary (in their view) for bringing desktop computing up-to-par, retina-wise. There is no such reason for them to want 21:9 displays. So they let the third-party market serve that niche.

There is a huge number of 21:9 monitors on the market, on more coming, so it is very much not a niche market.

The number is not „huge“ compared to the number of regular (16:9) display. It is a sizeable niche, mostly for gamers. Who would never buy a 21:9 iMac anyways.

I think an iMac UW would be great. But because of the planned obsolescence approach in play at modern Apple, I'd never lock in with a locked down, all-in-one again.

Sorry, but there is no „planned obsolescence“ here; it‘s just the nature of all-in-one devices. Also, the devices of „modern Apple“ are longer in use than most others, so your remark was wrong on two levels.

A 21:9" standalone display's potential customers include the vast army of PC and games console users.

A 21:9 iMac's potential customers are people who (a) wanted a Mac (one niche) and (b) wanted an iMac rather than the far more popular MacBook (another niche). It's a niche within a niche within a niche.

It's the difference between having 0.1% of the market in China and 0.1% of the market in Luxembourg.

Exactly. This is why it won‘t happen and it would be silly to get your hopes up.

Personally I‘m anxiously awaiting an ultra-wide full-retina-resolution display to come to market, inside or outside of an iMac, but it seems I‘ll have to keep using the barely acceptable LG 34“ 5K2K monitor indefinitely. Because Apple doesn‘t care about ultra-wide and the rest of the world doesn‘t care about high DPI.
 
HaHa! Very much planned obsolescence. There are hacks to make "vintaged" Macs run updated macOS just fine. If the hacks can do it, why can't Apple? Perhaps the motivation to get replacement revenue ASAP has something to do with it. Apple Inc. doesn't need defense but we customers would like maximum value.
 
As a long-term user of iMac 27", when my last one conked, I got mentally committed to NOT going with an all-in-one again.
This argument against All-In-Ones is as old as the iMac and irrelevant to the question of aspect ratios.
A 21:9 iMac's potential customers are people who (a) wanted a Mac (one niche) and (b) wanted an iMac rather than the far more popular MacBook (another niche). It's a niche within a niche within a niche.
And yet the iMac exists despite being a Mac and a desktop. Given that Apple does indeed serve this niche, what kind of screen resolution should it have going forward?
Apple really wanted 5K displays as it was necessary (in their view) for bringing desktop computing up-to-par, retina-wise. There is no such reason for them to want 21:9 displays.
I just made the case by referencing 21:9 content produced by Apple for the tv app on macOS.
This is why it won‘t happen and it would be silly to get your hopes up.
If one could even get "your hopes up" by the possibility of a 21:9 iMac, doesn't that prove that this feature is desirable and would increase the perceived value of iMacs? I for one would want to buy such a device.
 
This argument against All-In-Ones is as old as the iMac and irrelevant to the question of aspect ratios.

Worked for me and resulted in buying action: not spending my money on another iMac. I lost my main Mac, my main PC and my best screen in one bit of tech failure. No more. When a separate piece conks, I will replace that separate piece. Odds in it all going down together at the same time is dramatically lowered with separate pieces.

To me, the one great argument for AIO is aesthetics. It is pretty to have it all inside a single shiny case. However, as generations of iMac 27" evolved, Apple started kicking things OUTSIDE of the case (optical drive, ports other than thunderbolt, etc). So the "clean desktop" argument started becoming the "big dongled" desktop for anyone needing a few things that Apple chose NOT to consider in the meaning of the word "All."

In my case, everything hides behind the screen, so my desk looks just as clean as iMac 27" glory days (when it was really all-in-one) except now there is much more screen RE on which to work.

And I shared the backstory to convey HOW I got to real consideration of going the UW route in 2022 vs. waiting for a hypothetical iMac UW that will probably NEVER come. If OP or others want UW, they can do it NOW instead of forever waiting.

And if primary rationale as shared in post #1 is a screen for 21:9 AppleTV content (I believe much of that is actually 16:9, no?), the monitor I chose has dual HDMI jacks as input ports #3 and #4 so I could connect an AppleTV right to it if I wanted. Mac + PC + AppleTV + 1 more device if desired can all plug right in. It seems highly likely that an iMac UW would never support multiple inputs like that. In fact, after about 2012, Apple killed the TDM option so that an iMac could have ANY external inputs (use it as a great screen for another device), locking monitor usage to the tech guts INSIDE that iMac case.
 
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Since day 1, the value proposition of an iMac is that you plonk it down on your desk and you have a capable computer.

A wide aspect ratio version would break this because you'd have to make space for it, and lose desk space and it'd just be a fuss.
 
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Worked for me and resulted in buying action: not spending my money on another one. I lost my main Mac, my main PC and my best screen in one bit of tech failure. No more. When a separate piece conks, I will replace that separate piece. Odds in it all going down together at the same time is dramatically lowered with separate pieces.
No it's not. Fully integrated SoC hardware has way lower failure rates. So even if you may lose it all, the probability is far lower. And integrated devices are still repairable, otherwise people wouldn't buy iPads and iPhones. Again, none of this is an argument against a specific aspect ratio!
To me, the one great argument for AIO is aesthetics. It is pretty to have it all inside a single shiny case.
Ease of use, works out of the box, two step setup, no compatibility issues and so on ...
However, as generations of iMac 27" evolved, Apple started kicking things OUTSIDE of the case (optical drive, ports other than thunderbolt, etc). So the "clean desktop" argument started becoming the "big dongle" desktop for anyone needing a few things that Apple chose NOT to consider in the meaning of the word "All."
Nothing changed. The very first iMac had one Ethernet and two USB ports for connectivity. The M1 iMac is closer to the original vision of "everything behind the display" than ever before.
 
Since day 1, the value proposition of an iMac is that you plonk it down on your desk and you have a capable computer. A wide aspect ratio version would break this because you'd have to make space for it, and lose desk space and it'd just be a fuss.
Small iMac for small desks, large iMac for large desks.™ 💁
 
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No it's not. Fully integrated SoC hardware has way lower failure rates. So even if you may lose it all, the probability is far lower. And integrated devices are still repairable, otherwise people wouldn't buy iPads and iPhones. Again, none of this is an argument against a specific aspect ratio!

I don't have hard stats so I don't know about that. What I do know is when one bit of computing tech in my iMac conked, it took a perfectly fine screen and PC with my Mac. Now that those are 3 separate devices, I confidently use them with much faith that all 3 will never go down at the same time again. When one part does go, I can pay much less than a new "whole computer + whole screen" price for that one part.

As to repairability, the apparent culprits that seem to most plague iMac over the years is graphics card and power supply. Conceptually, the latter is just as replaceable with Silicon. However the former going bad dooms the owner to having to buy a whole new Mac. If that was an iMac, that would include having to pay for the screen/speakers/etc too.

Ease of use, works out of the box, two step setup, no compatibility issues and so on ...

I did not feel like I had to jump through any great hurdles to get Mac Studio plus this monitor working "out of the box." I did have to connect them with one thunderbolt cable and I needed 2 electrical sockets instead of one but otherwise, setup seemed super simple.

Nothing changed. The very first iMac had one Ethernet and two USB ports for connectivity. The M1 iMac is closer to the original vision of "everything behind the display" than ever before.

Actually a lot changed. Early iMacs had mainstream standard ports instead of Thunderbolt so one could just plug in instead of needing a separate hub to provide ports for stuff not yet Thunderbolt/USB-C (which is still many things in 2023). Early iMacs had an optical drive hidden in the side while latter Macs ejected that out to another piece of hardware to put on a desk (but of course, the price did not drop for removing it). iMac up to about 2012 had TDM (target display mode) which made them usable as a monitor separate from the Mac guts inside. Some people with them are still using them as monitors in spite of their Mac guts being made obsolete by macOS updates and "vintaging." For example, here are examples of iMac "hubs" that used to be back there...

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Compare that to the current iMac "hub?" Note that's not an argument for outdated ports but simply an illustration of how iMac used to have many useful ports that could direct connect to things back there. Now one just about must get at least one hub to re-create such flexibility in a big dongle on the desk. My last iMac ended up with 2 such dongles (hubs) to get the variety of ports I needed. IMO, desktop dongles take away from the "ALL"-in-one aesthetic benefits... at least equivalent to the "separates clutter" arguments made against separates.



I can see from your replies you are locked in on the one concept: iMac UW. That's fine. I hope Apple will build one for you. I doubt they will in the foreseeable future but I'll hope anyway. In the meantime, if you would like an UW screen now, the separates path that Apple has directly endorsed gives you a relatively easy path to go UW now if you want. The one I chose seems very easy to use, works out of the box, only takes a few steps to work and is 5K for compatibility. It also has a full hub with a variety of useful ports hidden in the back. It costs about the same as Studio Display when you choose a stand option... less if you watch pricing fluctuations/sales and/or much less if you can catch a refurb option.

But again, I hope Apple chooses to embrace an iMac UW for all who want everything in one case. I certainly enjoy doing all my Mac things on much wider screen RE than traditional iMacs. UW screen space is a productivity game changer beyond my own high expectations.
 
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Now that those are 3 separate devices, I confidently use them with much faith that all 3 will never go down at the same time again.
And I can confidently say, my All-In-One never had any blurry text or wake from sleep issues.
When one part does go, I can pay much less than a new "whole computer + whole screen" price for that one part.
I bought my 4.5K M1 iMac for €1050 with display, keyboard, mouse, webcam, speakers and microphones included. Try to beat that on price!
I did not feel like I had to jump through any great hurdles to get Mac Studio plus this monitor working "out of the box."
That's already $2000 and your Studio isn't even purple!
I did have to connect them with one thunderbolt cable and I needed 2 electrical sockets instead of one but otherwise, setup seemed super simple.
It isn't. Selecting a suitable external monitor for a Mac already covers dozens of threats with thousands of posts on this forum with no proper conclusion. Buy an iMac and you never need to worry about displays.
Early iMacs had mainstream standard ports instead of Thunderbolt.
Nope, just two USB 1.0 ports and not even floppy drive. It's the other way around. The latest iMacs offer a lot of connectivity over Thunderbolt.
Early iMacs had an optical drive hidden in the side while latter Macs ejected that out to another piece of hardware to put on a desk (but of course, the price did not drop for removing it).
No, later Macs omitted optical drives for good. The rise of internet download speed made physical data mediums obsolete. That's why you stopped buying CDs for your iPod. You didn't put them in external optical drives, you abandoned them for $1 on eBay.
I hope Apple will build one for you. In the meantime, if you would like an UW screen now, the separates path that Apple has directly endorsed gives you a relatively easy path to go UW now if you want.
There's nothing easy of using unsupported third-party hardware on a Mac. I'm also stingy and I won't spend that much on a monitor alone. The Mac needs to be in the chin. All-In-One all the way!
The one I chose works out of the box [..] and is 5K for compatibility.
There are only one or two 5K monitors and they are both ugly.
It costs about the same as Studio Display when you choose a stand option... less if you watch pricing fluctuations/sales and/or much less if you can catch a refurb option.
The Studio Display is too expensive already. $1,599 is just $100 less of what a brand-new 27" iMac cost in 2009. This is a horrible deal.
 
And yet the iMac exists despite being a Mac and a desktop. Given that Apple does indeed serve this niche, what kind of screen resolution should it have going forward?
The iMac "exists" in the form of the 24" iMac, the successor to the 21.5" iMac. Its a low-end (by Apple standards) consumer machine, considerably cheaper than the lowest-end 5k iMac was, with fairly limited connectivity - a MacBook Air on a stick. Amongst other things it's probably the go-to Mac for education. It's really the direct descendant of the 1999 iMac.

We'll see if it lasts - Apple certainly aren't falling over themselves to upgrade it to M2, and some of the arguments against the 27" iMac in the Apple Silicon era also apply to the 24" - but, generally, the lower the price, the higher the volume, the more 'niche' you can afford to go. Apple have a 'pile up' in their laptop line, between the M1 Air, the M2 Air and the 13" MBP - but they probably sell 10 of those models for every desktop sale.

I'd say that the 24" is about the right size if you want a compact, all-in-one desktop Mac that doesn't take over the desk and when you aren't going to use a lot of peripherals. The 27" is already getting a bit huge for a desktop unit - accessing the ports on the back is awkward - any larger and a lot of people are going to start looking at articulated arms or wall-mounting - and while you can get a VESA mount option thats also the point where having the computer (and expansion ports) built into the display starts to be silly.

At some stage, the 27" iMac became not just an all-in-one, but the only mid-to-high end desktop that Apple offered. Esp. when the tower MacPro (which was relatively affordable, starting at $2500) was dropped and, in 2014, the Mini got seriously knobbled. I'm sure a lot of people, like me, bought it because it was the only viable option. Of course, there was also the period when connecting a 5k external display was a kludge involving two DisplayPort 1.2 cables which counted in the iMac's favour - but that's history with DP 1.4 and Thunderbolt 3.

Seems to me, the more powerful computer you get, the more likely you are to need specialised displays (so, some people will be getting 1440p screens with particular colour properties, multi-display setups are great for coding etc.) and also the more gizmos you'll need to hang off the computer (an all-in-one starts to lose its point if you have half-a-dozen boxes hanging off it).
 
Apple certainly aren't falling over themselves to upgrade [the 24" iMac] to M2.
Because that wouldn't be a compelling upgrade. But an M2 Pro in a 6720×2880 iMac is a whole other device with a different use case doubling as an entertainment center for the living room.
But they probably sell 10 of those [laptops] for every desktop sale.
The ratio is 75:25 in favor of laptops. With a 13% Mac market share for iMacs.
I'd say that the 24" is about the right size if you want a compact, all-in-one desktop Mac that doesn't take over the desk and when you aren't going to use a lot of peripherals.
But what if I want to watch tv shows filmed in 21:9? That's what I need a second larger iMac for.
 
iMacs have come with a cinematic 16:9 aspect ratio since the Unibody iMac of 2009, but the current M1 iMac only has a 24-inch Retina display. The next best ways to make the iMac more cinematic is to improve the screen quality to Liquid Retina XDR or OLED and to increase the screen size to 27 or 32 inches.

A 21:9 aspect ratio might be nice, but would be an unusual shape for Apple to package an all-in-one computer into. It's not a bad idea to use the screen that came with your iMac plus a third-party 21:9 display or TV.
 
Do you agree?
No. Get a Mini or Studio and connect it to literally any display on the market. I wouldn't consider an Apple made screen in the first place due to Apple's ongoing issue with ghosting because of bad response times, even on their latest 120Hz miniLED displays. And I'd rather not have a display that runs its own iOS with its own bugs. Ventura is bad enough on its own.

And finally I cannot use a monitor that doesn't even have the most basic ergonomic functions like height adjustment. Sure I can purchase the VESA version and an additional arm, but I'd have to want that Apple display really badly to pay even more money just so I don't get a workplace injury.
 
And I can confidently say, my All-In-One never had any blurry text or wake from sleep issues.

No problem with the 5K monitor I chose. It looks as good as the iMac it replaced. No problem with sleep/wake either.

I bought my 4.5K M1 iMac for €1050 with display, keyboard, mouse, webcam, speakers and microphones included. Try to beat that on price!

If the contest is about price, pretty much EVERY other tech maker does NOT demand Apple's very high margins.

And if you are envisioning an iMac UW at traditional iMac "bargain" pricing, that ship has very likely sailed. Apple has just proven that "we" will pay as much as we used to pay for iMac 27" for the monitor portion alone. The next iMac "bigger" seems destined to add the cost of adding a whole Mac to that screen. My guess is "Starting at" will be towards about DOUBLE the traditional pricing of iMac "starting at."

It isn't. Selecting a suitable external monitor for a Mac already covers dozens of threats with thousands of posts on this forum with no proper conclusion. Buy an iMac and you never need to worry about displays.

I haven't seen any "threats." In general, many monitor problems involve cheap monitors with poor resolutions. Macs are very finicky about resolutions. Apple has chosen NOT to make macOS effectively scale to any resolution as Windows does and instead somewhat "forces" choices to be non-standard resolutions like (expensive) 5K vs. (commodity) 4K. If Apple would re-work macOS to scale, it would look as good as it could on any choice of screen.

The one I chose is 5K and looks sharp. The one Apple sells is 5K too. If you want to consider any other option, choose monitor wisely.

Nope, just two USB 1.0 ports and not even floppy drive. It's the other way around. The latest iMacs offer a lot of connectivity over Thunderbolt.

Step forward a bit from very first iMacs. The "golden period from about 2006-2018 generally offered the equivalent of a whole "hub" built in back there. I included pictures to compare to the latest iMac "hub?".

However, yes, Thunderbolt offers a lot of connectivity. Generally one needs to buy a (relatively expensive) Thunderbolt hub to then get the variety of ports they need to connect things... much of which does not connect directly to Thunderbolt in 2023 or even USB-C in 2023.

No, later Macs omitted optical drives for good. The rise of internet download speed made physical data mediums obsolete. That's why you stopped buying CDs for your iPod. You didn't put them in external optical drives, you abandoned them for $1 on eBay.

I understand and yet some clients STILL deliver some files on disc so I need a disc reader, which puts a big box on my desk whether iMac or Separates. And I personally still opt for the higher-quality of Blu Ray to rip vs. the much more compressed streaming files. And I personally still buy most of my music on higher-quality CDs to then rip to lossless for listening vs. settling for compressed audio files that throw out some detail to deliver the smaller file size. Since we both like value for our money, I generally buy discs used because digital files on them is as good as brand new. Often, this gets me higher quality files for less cost than the streaming alternative.

There's nothing easy of using unsupported third-party hardware on a Mac. I'm also stingy and I won't spend that much on a monitor alone. The Mac needs to be in the chin. All-In-One all the way!

I appreciate the demand for more value for your money. We share that thinking. However, I think you are looking backwards to when Apple used to offer a whole Mac plus a whole (great) screen for relatively bargain pricing. IMO, that ship has sailed... the real reason iMac 27" was discontinued... to first establish the monitor alone at former iMac "starting at..." pricing and then to put iMac guts back inside at something towards former iMac PRO starting at pricing. We'll see about that but I near 100% doubt any iMac "bigger" or iMac UW will ever arrive again at seemingly "bargain" pricing vs. other Macs.

My guess is that iMac "bigger" will be resurrected in the next year or two with a starting at price of about $3499 for minimal configuration... but maybe down to $2999. I have 0% confidence of $1999 or lower.

There are only one or two 5K monitors and they are both ugly.

Eye of the beholder. I really don't give a hoot what people think of the case of the screen. I just care about the screen itself. This one I chose looks as good to my good eyes as my former iMac 27" screen... while adding much more usable width. I never bother to look at the back and don't miss the iMac chin (or logo) at all.

However, Samsung has a SD-competitor (Viewfinity S9) about the be released that seems as "pretty" as Apple creations. You might want to await that one and see if it sufficiently scratches this itch. General perception is that it will be cheaper than SD without compromising on view screen quality.

The Studio Display is too expensive already. $1,599 is just $100 less of what a brand-new 27" iMac cost in 2009. This is a horrible deal.

I agree that SD is overpriced. I think iMac 27" will never revive at <$2K pricing and doubt iMac "bigger" will revive at <$3K pricing. I would imagine if Apple went to the trouble of creating and launching a big iMac UW, "starting at" would probably be north of $4K.

So for the same cost of SD, I got a 5K ultra-wide in 2022 instead and enjoy it every day NOW. I feel that was "expensive" for a screen too but I'm getting the same macOS screen experience with a lot of extra screen for that expense. Between those 2 5K screen choices, I'd rather spend about the same for the UW screen.
 
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For example, here are examples of iMac "hubs" that used to be back there...

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Audio line in and out are combined into one and moved to the side of the iMac. The four USB ports are still there, they are now USB-C and USB 3. Firewire technology is incorporated into Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 4 now also uses USB-C connectors. The Ethernet port moved to the power brick. All the connectivity is still there, it's just much faster and easier to plug-in. 💁
 
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And finally I cannot use a monitor that doesn't even have the most basic ergonomic functions like height adjustment. Sure I can purchase the VESA version and an additional arm, but I'd have to want that Apple display really badly to pay even more money just so I don't get a workplace injury.
And who said that iMacs will forever be non-height-adjustable? This is exactly the kind of feature that could separate the big and expensive iMac form the cheap and small iMac. In the past the iMac stand had to hold an entire Intel PC up in the air, but the 24" iMac only weighs 4.5 kg compared to 7.7 kg for a Studio Display. The large widescreen iMac could use the exact same mechanism. It probably was developed for exactly this purpose anyway.
 
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