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I already own an iPhone, iPad and MacBook Air. These pandemics time are so boring I feel like buying something.

What is an Apple TV good for ? For somebody that as already access to lots of specialty channels on is 4K TV and is not interested in Apple Arcade. Watching Apple TV on the big screen instead of my Mac but is there other benefits ? Went to Apple's site and it is very unclear.

Thank You
 
streaming tv shows is my main use
then streaming sports
I use mine a lot while freeing up the MacBook
others will type:
mirroring from an ipad
playing music
video games
and
a emergency hockey puck
 
Personally I have never felt it is worth it as our Xbox offers all the apps we want to stream on.
 
I don’t have cable, so I use the Apple TV for all my entertainment. Live TV through the service provider’s app, Netflix/Disney+ etc and iTunes for renting movies. The ATV streaming apps are usually superior to the versions put out on Xbox/Playstation and smart TVs as well.
If you are already in the Apple ecosystem it’s the ultimate entertainment hub.
 
I already own an iPhone, iPad and MacBook Air. These pandemics time are so boring I feel like buying something.

What is an Apple TV good for ? For somebody that as already access to lots of specialty channels on is 4K TV and is not interested in Apple Arcade. Watching Apple TV on the big screen instead of my Mac but is there other benefits ? Went to Apple's site and it is very unclear.

Thank You
For me, absolutely nothing.

I'm a big Plex user, with essentially all media on my MBP; so I just use a Chromecast to stream to my tv.

I actually do have an older ATV; but I never used it, because I get bored with the content, which always feels more limited than what I can get by streaming from my computer.

Give me a streaming device compatible with both Plex and spatial audio (for APP/APM), though, and I'll probably buy it.
 
1. General higher quality video/audio than smart TV apps.

2. I find it easier to use than the TV or other streaming boxes that I have used

3. Integration with Apple ecosystem - your media, pictures, etc. are easily accessible

4. Wealth of apps such as Plex, as above, or Infuse. I generally use Plex, but for some titles it doesn't work well and I use Infuse.

5. Speedtest and other network apps - help you diagnose internet and local network bandwidth issues

6. Remote - fastest scrubbing of any remove, best control if you like to go frame by frame. Lots of passionate discussions on the subject. Alternative remotes are available

7. Cable integration. If you have cable and they support it, the various channels such as HBO, Showtime are automatically authorized.

8. Don't have to replace your smart TV when new technology comes out. Just replace the AppleTV.

9. Diagnostic tools available for video/audio issues - Developers Hud.

Just a few things off the top of my head ....
 
These pandemics time are so boring I feel like buying something.

I have a large media library ripped from DVD's and other sources and first got an Apple TV to access that since I couldn't get cable in my rural location and the only internet was sub-megabit DSL. A few years ago I was able to get fast FIOS but didn't get a cable package. Now I continue to use my two Apple TV's for my media library (using a Mini as a server), but also have a Sling subscription and Prime. Games and other apps don't interest me.

In your case, doesn't sound like you need one. And by your own admission, you just want to spend money on a new toy. Might as well spend it on something you really need, or save it until you find something.
 
it's basically just allows you to view things on the big screen, And you can do that while using a remote instead of a keyboard.
That's assuming the remote isn't lost in the couch somewhere, or it's in your hand wrong. The remote functions great, but the physical design kinda sucks. It's very small, and much more difficult than most remotes to make sure it' in your hand the right way since they decided to make it almost completely symmetrical. Im sure it functions great if you're sitting at your desk in Cupertino, but in the dark, on the couch, and under a pile of blankets, it's not the friendliest remote out there. I hit the wrong thing a couple times a week, Loud scene comes on, grab the remote to turn it down a bit,

Most of the things you can do on aTV are probably already replicated in the apps on the typical smart TV, The aTV apps just tend to be a bit faster and more polished. The processor in the aTV helps with this as it blows away what you'll find in even higher end TVs. Plus the devs can make one app that works for many users, and with minimal changes have it work on iPhones, iPads, and Macs also. On the smart TV apps, they have to make different versions for each manufacturer. So if you're a developer, do you spend your time working on one app that will work on most of the current 1.65 Billion active apple devices, or on 5 different apps that have a much smaller user base.
There is also a much larger app selection available than in most smart TV stores.

It also allows you to airplay videos to your screen. browsing on your phone and come across a YouTube video you want to share with your friends, a couple of clicks, and it's on your big TV, and everyone can watch.
same for music, if you have a nice set of speakers hooked up to the TV.

One thing you won't find on smart TVs is the the appleTV app, It pulls from most of the other apps and combines them into one interface. It's just a listing, once you select something to play, it will launch the app that has that content. The only major app missing is Netflix. You will find HBO, showtime, Amazon Prime, and tons of others in it though. You can search across all the apps in one place, if there is more than one option, it will list them and show prices if applicable -- "rent for $4.99 on apple, or watch for free on HBO"
it also has an "up next" section which will acts like the continue watching section in Netflix, but it pulls from all the apps. If you're into sports, and have a sports streaming app (like MLB at bat), the games for your favorite teams will also show up there so you can tune into them pretty easily.
You can also get notifications as new episodes of shows you're watching are released, or as sports games are starting.

the appleTV app is also available on your phone or iPad, and as long as you have the applicable app installed, your up next will look and work the same across all your devices.
 
I don't like paying yearly to pay on top of that for the things I want to watch
 
I'm in the UK, and gave up my cable TV last November in favour of a Freeview+ recorder. I do miss that v6 Tivo...

The problem comes when I miss something as there's no catch-up function, so I have to find what I missed using the relevant app on my iPad then connect that to my 2006-vintage TV. An Apple TV for me would be a tablet without a screen. And even the divisive Apple TV remote is better than trying to wind back 30 seconds using the on-screen scrubbing bar! But you'll find lots of use cases here - just depends on what yours is as to whether or not it's "good".
 
Reliability and updates of apps. Great, easy to use interface with NO adds unlike others. Its way faster and slicker than other streaming sticks and watching media on a big screen is a way nicer experience than a laptop. Everything will sync between your devices too so you can, say, finish a film on your laptop when paused on the appletv.
 
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For me, absolutely nothing.

I'm a big Plex user, with essentially all media on my MBP; so I just use a Chromecast to stream to my tv.

I actually do have an older ATV; but I never used it, because I get bored with the content, which always feels more limited than what I can get by streaming from my computer.

Give me a streaming device compatible with both Plex and spatial audio (for APP/APM), though, and I'll probably buy it.
So it's no good because you use a chromecast? I can only feel your pain, chromecasts are/were god awful devices.
 
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If you're a cord cutter and want to stream apps on your TV, the ATV is a no-brainer (for us at least). Our house is fully engrained in the Apple ecosystem anyway, and we have three ATV's in total. But at the end of the day when my wife and I relax and watch TV, we have Netflix/Hulu/HBO Max/Disney+/Amazon Video to choose from. Plus, you can rent films/TV shows via iTunes as well.
 
The overall fluidity and UX of the ATV is miles ahead of what the smart apps on TV can do.

Overall, it Makes a lot of sense If you are entrenched deep in the apple ecosystem (damn you apple!) - although probably not otherwise..
It's a bit pricey for what it is but it serves so many use cases for us (e.g. 1 click ability to channel audio to 2 sets of AirPods/ iCloud photos sync ) that I am desperately waiting for the new one to come out to add a 3rd ATV in the household

PS: I have tried plenty of other streamers including Firestick 4K and Xiaomi MiBox for the 3rd screen but no dice
 
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It's become my number 1 non iPhone Apple device. I love mine. So much easier to use streaming apps like WWE Network, Netflix etc. The smart TV apps are awful in my opinion.

I've just started to use my Raspberry Pi 4 as a Plex server so Infuse on the ATV is lovely. I've got a Firestick 4K as well and it comes nowhere near the ATV. I hardly ever use it.
 
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The ATV is the flagship device for more than a few streaming apps.

Fubo (only streamer with 4-way multiview)
Channels DVR
March Madness

...i just wish that Apple would fix HLG. I would buy 2 or 3 more of them, if they did.
 
If you suspect your smart tv may “phone home”, you can disconnect it from the internet and rely on the Apple TV for your streaming needs.
Exactly. I won’t connect my TV to the internet so that it can spy on me. I just use it as a dumb screen to view content through the Apple TV. Sometimes I AirPlay from my iPhone or iPad.
 
1. General higher quality video/audio than smart TV apps.

Is this still the case with the latest smart tv's (and apps) vs the latest Apple TV over HDMI to tv?
This is a very reasonable question. To state the obvious, it depends what apps you use, and what smart TV you have. Recently, I lent my Apple TV to a friend, and I've been using a combination of my Xbox and a 2020 Samsung TV. I use various apps, but especially Plex, Prime Video, and MLB.TV

The transition away from Apple TV has been...fine! The overall experience is probably slightly less refined overall, but the difference is far less than I expected. I've seen a lot of (mostly deserved) scorn for Plex app on Xbox over the years, but the new Public Preview works perfectly for me.

The Samsung TV also support AirPlay 2 natively, which is nice. The only thing I miss from the Apple TV is full AirPods support (you can connect them as Bluetooth headphones, but it's a bit fiddly).
 
I've been asking myself this question lately and my answer is that I would not benefit from it. Comcast is expensive but the shows I watch don't come with Apple TV .
 
In the U.S. if you go to


you can enter in your shows and see if there are alternative streaming options for them (Netflix, Amazon, Paramount, etc..).
 
Comcast is expensive but the shows I watch don't come with Apple TV .

here are no Apple TV apps for the channels which have the shows you like?

I'm sure there are shows on Apple TV that I would like but not the ones we currently watch.

Trying again. Apple TV allows cable authentication for Apple TV apps. There are apps for a lot of the Comcast channels - HBO, Showtime, Food Network, etc. So if you have, say, a Food Network show that you really like then you can watch it in the Apple TV. CBS content is now available in the Apple TV via the Paramount app. Etc.

Since the Apple TV interface is far superior to Comcasts', if the shows you like can be played via Apple TV apps then you will likely be better off watching there than via Comcast. [FYI: I am a Comcast subscriber as well]
 
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