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What is wrong with my MacBook Pro?

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Sierra409

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May 5, 2011
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My MacBook Pro started getting Kernal Panics earlier this year. (I posted then as well). Mac first claimed Ram was the issue, then said there was liquid damage. Just trying to figure out what is really wrong and what the value of the system is, as is. And what repairs would cost and what would the value be then. Below is Panic Logs (More logs available, just posted some). Any help is appreciated! Thanks so much!

Mon Apr 25 18:45:29 2011
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A7BED): Kernel trap at 0x00164e01, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x3d80000c, CR3: 0x00d6b000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x06fda348, EBX: 0xbffff000, ECX: 0x3d800000, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x3d80000c, EBP: 0x54d6b878, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0x06fda354
EFL: 0x00010216, EIP: 0x00164e01, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00100010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x54d6b678 : 0x12b0e1 (0x4555b4 0x54d6b6ac 0x133238 0x0)
0x54d6b6c8 : 0x1a7bed (0x45e568 0x164e01 0xe 0x45dd24)
0x54d6b7a8 : 0x19e517 (0x54d6b7c0 0x48 0x54d6b878 0x164e01)
0x54d6b7b8 : 0x164e01 (0xe 0x1b00048 0x54d60010 0x1a0010)
0x54d6b878 : 0x16b1f0 (0x6fda348 0xbffff000 0x0 0x54d6b93c)
0x54d6b958 : 0x16c95d (0x6fda348 0xbffff000 0x0 0x1000)
0x54d6b998 : 0x37f758 (0x6fda348 0xbffff000 0x0 0x1000)
0x54d6ba58 : 0x38086b (0x810600 0x0 0x54d6bf5c 0x6b61530)
0x54d6bec8 : 0x37dc2f (0x54d6bf28 0x3 0x810600 0x0)
0x54d6bf78 : 0x3da8b0 (0x6b61530 0x757fea0 0x757fee4 0x0)
0x54d6bfc8 : 0x19ea34 (0x94fb5e0 0x0 0x1a10b5 0x94fb5e0)
No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb0080c58

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: ReportCrash

Mac OS version:
9A3129

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.0.0: Thu Oct 11 19:23:39 PDT 2007; root:xnu-1228~3/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F42388C8)



Mon Jul 25 08:23:54 2011
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x00198281, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x01bee000, CR3: 0x014de000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x00000001, EBX: 0x0549bd54, ECX: 0x01bee000, EDX: 0x00547860
CR2: 0x01bee000, EBP: 0x5b33fd88, ESI: 0x00000005, EDI: 0x00033b11
EFL: 0x00010206, EIP: 0x00198281, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x02280010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x5b33fad8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x5b33fb0c 0x13355c 0x0)
0x5b33fb28 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x198281 0xe 0x469248)
0x5b33fc08 : 0x1a1713 (0x5b33fc20 0x2e97fac 0x5b33fd88 0x198281)
0x5b33fc18 : 0x198281 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
0x5b33fd88 : 0x16087d (0x767ecb0 0x502000 0x0 0x33b11)
0x5b33fde8 : 0x163170 (0x2d4ba8c 0x767ecb0 0x502000 0x0)
0x5b33ff58 : 0x1ab39c (0x76438b8 0x502000 0x0 0x1)
0x5b33ffc8 : 0x1a160d (0x83d2180 0x0 0x1a40b5 0x83d2180)
No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb00805f8

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: ReportCrash

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F42388C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 6695988484726
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 - last unloaded 6518186212628
loaded kexts:
com.novatelwireless.driver.3GData 3.0.15
com.novatelwireless.driver.3G 3.0.15
com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.40
com.novatelwireless.driver.DisableAutoInstall 3.0.15
com.apple.nke.ppp 1.5 - last loaded 6472230722040
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0
com.apple.filesystems.udf 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.CSRUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros 320.16.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTrackpad 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 1.5.3
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPIIXATA 2.0.1
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 3.9.7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 3.5.2
com.apple.iokit.AppleYukon2 3.1.13b2
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
com.apple.BootCache 30.4
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.0.8
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily 2.0.1
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6

Thu Dec 1 21:44:03 2011
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x0039167f, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000000, CR3: 0x01517000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x00000000, EBX: 0x00000f20, ECX: 0x00004001, EDX: 0x0a6de240
CR2: 0x00000000, EBP: 0x5b4aff08, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0x00000000
EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x0039167f, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x0a6d0010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x5b4afc88 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x5b4afcbc 0x13355c 0x0)
0x5b4afcd8 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x39167f 0xe 0x469248)
0x5b4afdb8 : 0x1a1713 (0x5b4afdd0 0xa6de240 0x5b4aff08 0x39167f)
0x5b4afdc8 : 0x39167f (0xe 0xbcb0048 0x5b4a0010 0x4f0010)
0x5b4aff08 : 0x39188d (0x7fade44 0x71193c0 0x100d000 0x0)
0x5b4aff78 : 0x3e3a7f (0x79426fc 0x7fadd40 0x7fadd84 0x0)
0x5b4affc8 : 0x1a1c0a (0x812bcc0 0x0 0x1a40b5 0x6d9aac0)
No mapping


Wed Dec 7 11:22:22 2011
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001AB0FE): Kernel trap at 0x00135302, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0xaa93bf83, CR3: 0x014af000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x0000007c, EBX: 0x00547680, ECX: 0x00000032, EDX: 0x5549e000
CR2: 0xaa93bf83, EBP: 0x555bfe18, ESI: 0x00547680, EDI: 0x5549e000
EFL: 0x00010002, EIP: 0x00135302, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x004f0010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x555bfc08 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x555bfc3c 0x13355c 0x0)
0x555bfc58 : 0x1ab0fe (0x469a98 0x135302 0xe 0x469248)
0x555bfd38 : 0x1a1713 (0x555bfd50 0x6d1efc0 0x555bfe18 0x135302)
0x555bfd48 : 0x135302 (0xe 0x48 0x555b0010 0x1a0010)
0x555bfe18 : 0x1354ab (0x54769c 0x23ac6252 0x0 0x77da2e8)
0x555bfe78 : 0x13703a (0x77da2e8 0x5 0x2431339 0x4)
0x555bfe98 : 0x141714 (0x77da2e8 0x0 0x555bfeb8 0x1a436f)
0x555bfed8 : 0x1417bd (0x548fc0 0x46c21004 0x0 0x0)
0x555bff18 : 0x386569 (0x548fc0 0x46c21004 0x0 0x1414bc)
0x555bff38 : 0x2006b9 (0x46c21004 0x0 0x7d04128 0x522b60)
0x555bff58 : 0x200bd1 (0x52c778 0x23ac6252 0x555bff78 0x1a436f)
0x555bff78 : 0x13ebde (0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x555bffc8 : 0x1a14fc (0x522b60 0x0 0x1a40b5 0x75fb6b0)
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F42388C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 2851886443641
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0 - last unloaded 135518218562
loaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0 - last loaded 25726514608
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.9f10
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAPlatformDriver 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 113
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTrackpad 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 2.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.1a2
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros 320.16.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.1a2
com.apple.GeForce 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 2.8.15
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 2.1.1d2
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 6.0.3
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a17
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 1.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver 1.0.0d28
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.3.1
com.apple.driver.CSRUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.CSRHIDTransitionDriver 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.5.2
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 1.5.3
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.2.2
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 3.9.7
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 1.7.0
com.apple.iokit.AppleYukon2 3.1.13b2
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPIIXATA 2.0.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 3.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 158.10.5
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.2.3
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 76.2.0
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
com.apple.BootCache 30.4
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.1a2
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 216.1
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.1a2
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a17
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 2.3.1d1
com.apple.NVDAResman 5.4.8
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.3
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.1.9f10
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 1.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily 2.0.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.5.2
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.5.6
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
 
The name of the company that makes your computer is Apple, not Mac.

If you have liquid damage to the machine there isn't a lot of help that can be given without a hands on inspection of the unit.

To isolate your problem you need to isolate the following variables:

RAM
HDD
ODD
AP/BT
Display

If detaching or using known good examples of each of the above variables doesn't change your KPs, then you're looking at a damaged logic board (probably the case) and the cost of replacement usually exceeds the value of the machine.

If that is the case (which it most likely is) you could potentially get some money out of undamaged components, like the display clamshell, etc.
 
I am aware of who makes the computer. However I use Mac and Apple interchangeably particularly since it is Mac Authority who serviced the laptop.
Not really a big deal which name I use, I suppose.

Thanks for the feedback.

If I were to sell it as is, what is the minimum I should take?
Prior to earlier this year, it has been a great system. Still functions just fine at times.

Mac OS X Version 10.5.8
17inch
Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4ghz
4gb of memory

Fairly new battery. New charger.
 
Could you go into a little more detail on this? It seems odd that they'd say ram then liquid damage. If there is third party ram inside they sometimes red flag that, but it's fine as long as it's tested for the model you're using, and if ram may have gone bad there's always single user mode memtest. Where would liquid damage have come from? Did you spill something on it?

Apple's service people say a lot of stuff. Apple does have flat rate repairs on some laptops. If it has a bad logic board it's not worth that much as it's a very expensive repair. If that is the case, it will fail prematurely even if it still sometimes works okay now.
 
Sierra409 said:
I am aware of who makes the computer. However I use Mac and Apple interchangeably particularly since it is Mac Authority who serviced the laptop.
Not really a big deal which name I use, I suppose.
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Well... before, i just thought you had switched Mac and Apple, and that an Apple store had provided the service. I would find an Apple store and have it checked there, since the information from Mac Authority doesn't seem to be very trustable.
 
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thekev said:
Could you go into a little more detail on this? It seems odd that they'd say ram then liquid damage. If there is third party ram inside they sometimes red flag that, but it's fine as long as it's tested for the model you're using, and if ram may have gone bad there's always single user mode memtest. Where would liquid damage have come from? Did you spill something on it?

Apple's service people say a lot of stuff. Apple does have flat rate repairs on some laptops. If it has a bad logic board it's not worth that much as it's a very expensive repair. If that is the case, it will fail prematurely even if it still sometimes works okay now.
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Kernel panics started earlier this year. Randomly usually during Internet use but not only during this time. Sometimes it occurs quickly other times you can get through a whole movie with no issues, etc. It really varies.

I know when it first started I lost just about everything, music, photos, etc.

System had worked perfect until this and was absolutely amazing. So very dissapointing.

I spilled coke on it in fall of 2008 or early 2009 however I never experienced any issues and nothing was ever said by apple until this year.

MacBook Pro still powers on.Sometimes the first time. Sometimes it takes a few tries.

I decided not to follow through with repairs earlier this year because I was told to replace the logic board due to liquid damage. I just bought a new iMac.
Now I'm trying to sell the iMac and MacBook Pro.

Just need to figure out what I can get for the pro.
 
The Coke Is The Clue

Sierra409 said:
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Kernel panics started earlier this year. Randomly usually during Internet use but not only during this time. Sometimes it occurs quickly other times you can get through a whole movie with no issues, etc. It really varies.

I know when it first started I lost just about everything, music, photos, etc.

System had worked perfect until this and was absolutely amazing. So very dissapointing.

I spilled coke on it in fall of 2008 or early 2009 however I never experienced any issues and nothing was ever said by apple until this year.

MacBook Pro still powers on.Sometimes the first time. Sometimes it takes a few tries.

I decided not to follow through with repairs earlier this year because I was told to replace the logic board due to liquid damage. I just bought a new iMac.
Now I'm trying to sell the iMac and MacBook Pro.

Just need to figure out what I can get for the pro.
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It's a long term corrosive so you wouldn't notice issues right away....As to what your Mac is worth "as is" not a lot. If the logic board has sustained damage things will probably get worse.....Don't know what Apple would charge for repairing it, but why not ask....Selling it the way it is now is likely to lead to comebacks and hassle.
 
if you've resigned to give up on the machine, you can give one last thing a shot. Disassemble and remove the logic board. Gently clean it with a toothbrush and 99% alcohol. This will clean any gunk from spilling any liquid on it. After the alcohol has completely evaporated, put it back together. It may work. An Apple tech I know and work with was given a machine that was dead from water damage and this fixed the machine. It's a shot in the dark (kinda like re-flowing) but if you're done with it anyways, go for it.
 
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