What Steve Jobs Said About the App Store

[-aggie-]

Interesting article on what Steve Jobs thinks about the app store:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/07/2...-the-app-store-and-why-we-need-to-suck-it-up/

"Jobs said that Apple wouldn’t distribute porn or malicious apps or privacy-invading apps, and said that Apple’s interests and those of third-party developers were the same. The slide also mentioned “Bandwidth hogs,” which apparently meant stuff like SlingPlayer, and “Unforseen,” which I assumed at the time referred to other applications that put iPhone owners at risk in one way or another. What he didn’t do is say that Apple would reject software that competed with Apple or AT&T offerings."

 

[kdarling]

"What he didn’t do is say that Apple would reject software that competed with Apple or AT&T offerings."

No, but that's in the developer's agreement, IIRC.

Edit: hmm. I don't see it, actually. I could swear that "duplication" of included services is mentioned somewhere.

 

[aprofetto]

Steve also said we'd have copy and paste a year before it came... but come on, who's counting?

 

[kas23]

What he didn’t do is say that Apple would reject software that competed with Apple or AT&T offerings."

But, they obviously already do. I don't know what else to say.

 

[ct2k7]

But, they obviously already do. I don't know what else to say.

It's common sense. If you had developed a platform which could have apps installed on it, as well as the stock apps, would you introduce competition which could potentially kill the use of your stock apps? {not having a snag at you kas23}

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

It's common sense. If you had developed a platform which could have apps installed on it, as well as the stock apps, would you introduce competition which could potentially kill the use of your stock apps? {not having a snag at you kas23}

Well if you think about it, the consumer paid for the hardware. It's theirs to do with as they please. Apple isn't making money from customers using their apps. Why should it matter if consumers use something else because somebody can do it better?

 

[braddick]

530 people have read this thread yet only six have replied.
Are you really that afraid of Steve Jobs?

 

[-aggie-]

530 people have read this thread yet only six have replied.
Are you really that afraid of Steve Jobs?

I posted this OP. He just emailed me and told me he wants my iPhone back. Oh, and iTunes has stopped working.

 

[Clete2]

530 people have read this thread yet only six have replied.
Are you really that afraid of Steve Jobs?

I'm not afraid. I agree with Steve on the porn and on the "malicious" apps as he says.

Excessive bandwidth hogs should just be limited to Wi-Fi. Although it would be nice if AT&T's infrastructure was better so we could use those bandwidth hogs on their network.

If people continue to buy iPhones and Blackberries, then AT&T is going to have to step up their infrastructure (which they are already doing).

 

[ynotm]

Well if you think about it, the consumer paid for the hardware. It's theirs to do with as they please. Apple isn't making money from customers using their apps. Why should it matter if consumers use something else because somebody can do it better?

Indeed. Apple has nothing to lose, and actually revenue to be gained (with the profit sharing setup in the AppStore) by allowing competing apps. Their current stance makes zero business sense as anyone buying an appstore app has already bought into the iPhone ecosystem.

 

[labman]

don't really care!

not saying I don't like porn but I am yet to want porn on my Iphone. As far as being afraid of Steve Jobs we he is the!

 

[braddick]

 

[sinsin07]

530 people have read this thread yet only six have replied.
Are you really that afraid of Steve Jobs?

No. That number should tell you something else. No one cares about what Jobs had to say. Secondly, they found this post meaningless.

 

[The General]

Steve also said we'd have copy and paste a year before it came... but come on, who's counting?

No he didn't. Actually, Steve Jobs never said anything about copy and paste. Scott Forstall announced that it would be in 3.0 a few months before 3.0 was released.

Are you getting copy and paste confused with push notifications? Even then, Steve didn't announce anything about those - that was Scott Forstall.

 

[braddick]

No. That number should tell you something else. No one cares about what Jobs had to say. Secondly, they found this post meaningless.

Not accurate.
Although the number of people reading the post doubled, the number who responded tripled.

Stats don't lie.

 

[andrewsd]

I Am

Steve also said we'd have copy and paste a year before it came... but come on, who's counting?

No, not really but your post made me laugh.

 

[aprofetto]

No, not really but your post made me laugh.

thanks, it was meant to be a joke... obviously some people are such fanboys they know what Jobs had for breakfast...

No he didn't. Actually, Steve Jobs never said anything about copy and paste. Scott Forstall announced that it would be in 3.0 a few months before 3.0 was released.

Are you getting copy and paste confused with push notifications? Even then, Steve didn't announce anything about those - that was Scott Forstall.

 

[sinsin07]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

No. That number should tell you something else. No one cares about what Jobs had to say. Secondly, they found this post meaningless.

Not accurate.
Although the number of people reading the post doubled, the number who responded tripled.

Stats don't lie.

Stats may not lie, but people and their misinterpretation of the data do. Case in point. You see low post and high # of views and conclude people are afraid of Jobs. I see people who have something better to do in other threads.

 

[braddick]

"Stats may not lie, but people and their misinterpretation of the data do. Case in point. You see low post and high # of views and conclude people are afraid of Jobs. I see people who have something better to do in other threads."
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Good point. For example, are you going to exchange your black 3G S for a white one?
Discuss.

 

[sinsin07]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

"Stats may not lie, but people and their misinterpretation of the data do. Case in point. You see low post and high # of views and conclude people are afraid of Jobs. I see people who have something better to do in other threads."
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Good point. For example, are you going to exchange your black 3G S for a white one?
Discuss.

You got me. White iPhone for Black threads and other such nonsense did not cross my mind when I said "people have something better to do in other threads" 

 

[The General]

thanks, it was meant to be a joke... obviously some people are such fanboys they know what Jobs had for breakfast...

I don't understand the humor. It was an incorrect statement. How is that funny? What part of it is lulz?

 

[sinsin07]

I don't understand the humor. It was an incorrect statement. How is that funny? What part of it is lulz?

Well with a handle like "The General" its no wonder you don't see the humor. I salute you sir

 

[aprofetto]

I don't understand the humor. It was an incorrect statement. How is that funny? What part of it is lulz?

Nevermind. You're right, nothing was funny about it. Incorrect statement. Steve Jobs would've saluted you had he seen your fine work.