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theposse

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i've recently had a nightmare with my mac g4 and have erased my old 10.3-9 and want to get tiger but i want to start from scratch which DVD do i need to buy as there is loads out there on ebay and that.
Some of them only work if you have 10.3 which i don`t have as my mac came with 10.2
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
the posse
 
You'll just want the standard 10.4 install DVD. That's what installs tiger...
Or am I not getting the question? :confused:
 
katie ta achoo said:
You'll just want the standard 10.4 install DVD. That's what installs tiger...
Or am I not getting the question? :confused:

I think you're on track, keep it simple and get 10.4 from an apple store or apple.com. As long as your machine meets the specs, you'll be good !

As far as ebay: I 'd love to hear more experienced folks discuss buying software on ebay. Here's what I fear (is it rational?) guy installs Tiger on his machine, then sells the discs on ebay. If I buy them and the software is already registered,,,, isn't that piracy ?
 
theposse said:
Some of them only work if you have 10.3
Those are most likely upgrade discs (like the ones Apple send out to those who got a Mac with Panther just around the time Tiger was released). Stay clear of those, they are not legal to sell or to use for anything other then the above mentioned purpose...
 
theposse said:
i've recently had a nightmare with my mac g4 and have erased my old 10.3-9 and want to get tiger but i want to start from scratch which DVD do i need to buy as there is loads out there on ebay and that.
Some of them only work if you have 10.3 which i don`t have as my mac came with 10.2
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
the posse
So how did you get 10.3.9 to erase if you don't have 10.3? ;)

You'll be fine buying the install DVD. The only "upgrade" DVDs, I believe, are the ones Mitthrawnuruodo mentioned.
 
ibook30 said:
As far as ebay: I 'd love to hear more experienced folks discuss buying software on ebay. Here's what I fear (is it rational?) guy installs Tiger on his machine, then sells the discs on ebay. If I buy them and the software is already registered,,,, isn't that piracy ?

It is piracy....by the person who sells the disk. You have the right to sell software, but in doing so, you are actually selling the license. If you sell that license, you aren't legally entitled to keep that software on your computer. So as far as purchasing, so long as its a legit disk and not a copy, you are not piracting anything.

The exception here is OEM disks. If a disc shipped with a computer, its often licensed only for that particular computer. The seller doesn't have the right to sell that license in many cases.

A bigger problem than that is often that selling OEM OS disks as retail disks means some poor user gets a disk that doesn't fully support their machine. Always make sure you buy retail disks if you buy of ebay.
 
thanks for the advice

thanks for all the advice i'll get my tiger 10.4 from an apple outlet and pay the extra buck.
As for erasing 10.3.9 that was upgrades i got from the internet.I bought my computer 3 yrs ago and it only came with 10.2
Thanks again and have a happy new year
 
theposse said:
i've recently had a nightmare with my mac g4 and have erased my old 10.3-9 and want to get tiger but i want to start from scratch which DVD do i need to buy as there is loads out there on ebay and that.
Some of them only work if you have 10.3 which i don`t have as my mac came with 10.2
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
the posse


nightmares about computers??? haven't hit that point yet lol. maybe it's because i don't sleep enough these days. you will enjoy tiger though
 
You actually don't have the right to sell the software. After purchasing, your rights are to install the OS on ONE system. You don't have the right to sell or transfer licenses, because in that case you are violating the EULA.
 
baummer said:
You actually don't have the right to sell the software. After purchasing, your rights are to install the OS on ONE system. You don't have the right to sell or transfer licenses, because in that case you are violating the EULA.

Not true, on at least two counts:

* Firstly, in many countries your right to transfer[1] to another person Products that you have purchased is protected by law, irrespective of the wording of any EULA. "Products" are any goods or services, including a license to use.

* Secondly, specifically for Apple software and unless the product is marked "not for resale" (perhaps because it was a promotional, evaluation, demonstration or testing version), the license agreement specifically permits a one-time permanent transfer of license rights providing that certain conditions are met.

[1] sell or give
 
baummer said:
You actually don't have the right to sell the software. After purchasing, your rights are to install the OS on ONE system. You don't have the right to sell or transfer licenses, because in that case you are violating the EULA.

EULAs vary by different software. There is not a standard EULA as you imply. :rolleyes: Most EULAs allow you sell the software as long as it's not Academic or OEM, and you include the license. Otherwise, you're just selling a media kit.

By wary on eBay for sellers that sell Academic versions of software that may not be forthcoming. Only students, faculty and teachers of academic institutions are allowed to purchase Academic software.

Many software companies such as Adobe and Microsoft label software on the box, license and media as ACADEMIC. However, Apple ships the same license, box and media to students and teachers who purchase Mac OS X from their Apple Store for Education as they do their retail customers who purchase Mac OS X from the Apple Store Online.

By the way, EULAs are not legally enforceable in the United States because customers are not privy to the EULA before purchasing the software and are not allowed to return the software to their respective retail store because of piracy laws.

Many software companies include unusual or radical wording in the EULA that prevent you from doing certain things that may violate your rights.

For example, in ACDSee 7 the EULA states that you can not use the software to look at pornographic images. :rolleyes:
 
theposse said:
thanks for all the advice i'll get my tiger 10.4 from an apple outlet and pay the extra buck.
As for erasing 10.3.9 that was upgrades i got from the internet.I bought my computer 3 yrs ago and it only came with 10.2
Thanks again and have a happy new year
I'm just curious about this one. If your Mac only came with 10.2, you could not have gotten to 10.3 with upgrades over the internet. You would have had to have used a Panther disc of some sort.
 
sgmorr said:
I'm just curious about this one. If your Mac only came with 10.2, you could not have gotten to 10.3 with upgrades over the internet. You would have had to have used a Panther disc of some sort.


Unless his computer was showered by a TORRENTial rain of BITs.


If you catch my drift ;)
 
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