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DexBell

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Any idea what's going on here? This is with the default 1x wide lens. The 11 Pro videos I see online look so amazing and crisp, this looks terrible. Tons of noise and flickering going on. Camera app also forced closed on me like 5 times while taking photos today too. Photos come out fine though. Any ideas?

 
Anyone? This looks significantly worse than video off my XS Max. Did I get a lemon or is this how bad the video from the 11 Pro Max looks unless its in bright sunlight?
 
I noticed the same thing started happening to my videos on my 11 Pro Max in dim lighting. The video is EXTREMELY pixelated. It started happening after one of the recent iOS 13 updates, don't remember which one
 
I noticed the same thing started happening to my videos on my 11 Pro Max in dim lighting. The video is EXTREMELY pixelated. It started happening after one of the recent iOS 13 updates, don't remember which one

Hmmm. Well I am on 13.2 and looks like its already up to 13.2.3 Maybe I should upgrade and see if that changes anything. Here is a video my 11 Pro Max and a video of the XR. The XR looks better to me, much less noise in the clouds specifically.

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The really strange thing is the photos look great. No idea how the photos could look great and the video look so bad off the same sensor...
 

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Hmmm. Well I am on 13.2 and looks like its already up to 13.2.3 Maybe I should upgrade and see if that changes anything. Here is a video my 11 Pro Max and a video of the XR. The XR looks better to me, much less noise in the clouds specifically.

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The really strange thing is the photos look great. No idea how the photos could look great and the video look so bad off the same sensor...
Same! My picture come look great, but low light videos are very pixelated. It seems like a software bug (add it to the laundry list of iOS 13 bugs). I'm curious to see if anyone else is seeing this issue
 
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Are you sure it's the same sensor? Check by putting your finger across the lens. Maybe it's "videos capture outside the frame" using the wide camera and cropping it down.
 
Are you sure it's the same sensor? Check by putting your finger across the lens. Maybe it's "videos capture outside the frame" using the wide camera and cropping it down.

Well, the photos I shot, as well as the videos, were both with the 1x wide camera. I did take some photos and video with the ultra wide too. Photos look great, video not so much but we already knew the video from the ultra wide was no good. I have capture outside the frame off for both photo and video. This is from the main camera though and really bad.
 
I wonder if we got lemon phones or most people just dont notice how bad the video is. Not really noticeable on a 5 inch display, but its very noticeable on a 27 inch iMac or 65 inch 4K TV

That’s a good question. I’m going to get in touch with Apple this weekend and see what they say.This isn’t normal behavior
 
I’ve noticed the same. I’ve tried it with Filmic Pro where I can set the shutter and iso, looked pixelated in low light. The iPhone app did the same. However there are pros shooting movies in low light, why do theirs look good? High iso?

Anyway, an update: I just recorded some video with filmic pro app, it looks fine. 4K at 30 FPS. No pixelation seen. But I did see some pixelation in really low light, lower that what should be used at 4K/30 FPS. I think the iPhone camera struggles in rally low light when shooting video because of high iso. Apps like Filmic Pro help with that by the user controlling the use and shutter manually.

 
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I’ve noticed the same. I’ve tried it with Filmic Pro where I can set the shutter and iso, looked pixelated in low light. The iPhone app did the same. However there are pros shooting movies in low light, why do theirs look good? High iso?

Anyway, an update: I just recorded some video with filmic pro app, it looks fine. 4K at 30 FPS. No pixelation seen. But I did see some pixelation in really low light, lower that what should be used at 4K/30 FPS. I think the iPhone camera struggles in rally low light when shooting video because of high iso. Apps like Filmic Pro help with that by the user controlling the use and shutter manually.


Thanks for the update Todd, and thanks for testing it on Filmic pro! Like you mentioned, the issues for me are showing up specifically in low light situations, but this looks appreciably worse than any iPhone from recent years.

I think Dexbell was seeing the issue in pretty decent outdoor lighting though
 
I’ve noticed the same. I’ve tried it with Filmic Pro where I can set the shutter and iso, looked pixelated in low light. The iPhone app did the same. However there are pros shooting movies in low light, why do theirs look good? High iso?

Anyway, an update: I just recorded some video with filmic pro app, it looks fine. 4K at 30 FPS. No pixelation seen. But I did see some pixelation in really low light, lower that what should be used at 4K/30 FPS. I think the iPhone camera struggles in rally low light when shooting video because of high iso. Apps like Filmic Pro help with that by the user controlling the use and shutter manually.


Hi, I'm thinking about getting the 11 and Filmic Pro to control the focus and exposure. Are you still having problems with pixelation and noise? I had the same issue with my Note 8.

Also, does Filmic pro allow you to shoot in 4K-60 and 1080-240?
 
Hi, I'm thinking about getting the 11 and Filmic Pro to control the focus and exposure. Are you still having problems with pixelation and noise? I had the same issue with my Note 8.

Also, does Filmic pro allow you to shoot in 4K-60 and 1080-240?

well the last short video test I took didn’t look bad at all, but I only viewed it on my 11 pro max. I usually don’t video much or in the dark/ low light, but the test looked good. I’ll have to do more. As for the frame rate, yes it will record 4K up to 60fps, and 240 slo-mo both at or over 100 megabits / sec. set it to Filmic extreme. I saved the unedited short video to my camera roll and it looks good. However when I edit the video with the default Apple photo / video editor, it turned to CRAP! A revert to original made it clean again. I edited the same video using LumaFusion app, it looks great still. I recorded the video in 4K 30/30 and saw no noisy footage. The Vlog2 was used which really has great dynamic range.
 
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well the list short video testI took didn’t look bad at all, but I only viewed it on my 11 pro max. I usually don’t video much or in the dark/ low light, but the test looked good. I’ll have to do more. As for the frame rate, yes it will record 4K up to 60fps, and 240 slo-mo both at or over 100 megabits / sec. set it to Filmic extreme. I saved the unedited short video to my camera roll and it looks good. However when I edit the video with the default Apple photo / video editor, it turned to CRAP! A revert to original made it clean again. I edited the same video using LumaFusion app, it looks great still. I recorded the video in 4K 30/30 and saw no noisy footage. The Vlog2 was used which really has great dynamic range.

Appreciate the response, man. I'll take a look at the iPhone 11 again.
 
Lighting, lighting, lighting! The new iPhones are DSLR-quality, but nothing will take a good photo / video if you're operating in the dark. Exposure has to be increased in low-light conditions, this leads to artifacts and noise. If you tried the same video with a competitor camera you'd probably have something barely recognizable. Try taking the video one hour earlier in the daylight with the iPhone and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
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Lighting, lighting, lighting! The new iPhones are DSLR-quality, but nothing will take a good photo / video if you're operating in the dark. Exposure has to be increased in low-light conditions, this leads to artifacts and noise. If you tried the same video with a competitor camera you'd probably have something barely recognizable. Try taking the video one hour earlier in the daylight with the iPhone and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

agreed... I do way more general photography than video. I’d like to get more into video, but it takes a lot of practice.
 
Lighting, lighting, lighting! The new iPhones are DSLR-quality, but nothing will take a good photo / video if you're operating in the dark. Exposure has to be increased in low-light conditions, this leads to artifacts and noise. If you tried the same video with a competitor camera you'd probably have something barely recognizable. Try taking the video one hour earlier in the daylight with the iPhone and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Sorry, but its not even close to DSLR/mirrorless quality in low light. My Canon EOS RP completely shreds my 11 Pro Max when I was test shooting video in my room in low light and outside on a rather dark and rainy day, its not even close. I can post it if you'd like. Also, my video in the first post that started this whole thread isn't really considered low light and my RP would have shot amazing video in that same lighting. Its not the artifacting I am referring to. Look at the houses and shore when it starts and look how it flickers with static, like you are watching a bad TV channel. Thats not the sensor, that's something wrong with the camera system. The tiny sensor in the iPhone is no match for a full frame sensor in low light obviously. The video on the 11 Pro just flat out sucks unless you are in great daytime lighting.
 
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Lighting, lighting, lighting! The new iPhones are DSLR-quality, but nothing will take a good photo / video if you're operating in the dark. Exposure has to be increased in low-light conditions, this leads to artifacts and noise. If you tried the same video with a competitor camera you'd probably have something barely recognizable. Try taking the video one hour earlier in the daylight with the iPhone and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

increasing exposure does not add noise and “artifacts”, actually the opposite, increasing exposure wiill help reduce visible noise.
 
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My Canon EOS RP completely shreds my 11 Pro Max when I was test shooting video in my room in low light and outside on a rather dark and rainy day, its not even close.
Er yes, the RP is a >$2K full-frame mirrorless camera and your Pro Max is a phone. The sensor on the RP is massive compared to the iPhone one. What did you expect?
The video I take on my 11 Pro just flat out sucks unless you are in great daytime lighting.
Fixed that for you... Since (as you note) there are much better-quality examples available online from the same phone, there's either something wrong with your phone or your setup/technique. Why don't you try getting a replacement one and see if it's better?
 
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