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When can we expect a new design of a MacBook Pro?
2016 - Current 13" & 15" Macbook Pro design.
2017 - The same 13" & 15" Macbook Pro design.
2018 - For sure the same 13" & 15" Macbook Pro design.
2019 - ?
2020 - ?

My wishlist:
1.FaceID with a 1080p webcam.
2.6-core processor (in 15" or 16" MBP) & 4-core processor (in 13" or 14" MBP).
3.32 GB of LPDDR4 memmory.
4.Nearly frameless 4k professional-grade screen.
5.14" and 16" size. (13" MacBook Pro has not enough room for professional-grade specs)
6.Removable battery.
7.USB-C MagSafe.
8.Apple leather case/sleeve for MacBook Pro.
 
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The first Retina MacBook Pro was introduced in 2012
The unibody design came out in 2008
The current generation in 2016

This would likely suggest the next major redesign is not until 2020.

I would hope the next generation would include:

- Super OLED 4k display with Face ID
- 8 Core CPU
- 64 GBs of DDR4 RAM Max, 32 GB minimum on entry level 15 inch.
- Thinner bezels - maybe a Notch like design on the iPhone X - LOL
- Better keyboard, extended battery life
- 1 TB SSD standard
- 8 GB AMD Vega GPU
- Return of backlit Apple logo.
 
I don’t see them changing the main body until 2020 tbh. Even then, I think the most they will do will be an alteration of the display module to reduce bezels (14” in 13’s body, 16” in 15’s body).

What I’d love to see (but don’t expect fully until 2019):
- 15” rMBP (maybe with 16” display in 15 body)
- 6 core processors
- 32GB RAM
- Thunderbolt 4 (with Display Port 1.4, HDMI 2.1 support)
- AMD dGPU that can output more TFLOPs than a PS4 Pro (PS4P is roughly about 4.2TF, while upcoming radeons in that Intel / AMD hybrid chip can do up to 3.7 so it’s not an impossible goal)
- FaceID
- a return to 99.5W battery like the 2015 had.

What I think we’ll actually see though in the 2018 MBPs though:

Its gonna be:

13" - up to quadcores with that intel / amd hybrid chip (specially binned versions for apple with much lower thermals) [EDIT: I also see them using these in the 4k iMacs]
15" - up to hexacore with a dGPU based on Vega but not that much more powerful compared to 460/560 - just better thermals. For anything beefier than that they will recommend you go eGPU.

Display brightness goes up from 500 to 600 nits to comply with recent new HDR standard. Won't really matter because you still won't be able to watch 4K iTunes videos on a Mac anyway.

- Bluetooth 5.0
- T2 stye chip like iMac Pro.
- 1080p facetime camera with new DSP enabled by above chip.
- Minor changes to keyboards. They will still work in the same way, probably just a substitution of materials for manufacturing to alleviate current issues.
- Possibly second gen TouchBar — though I cant speculate on if this will add any features (eg haptics), or if it will just be cheaper for them to manufacture. Better support thanks to T2 chip though.
- No FaceID until 2019. FaceID manufacturing will only be able to ramp up supply enough to cover new iPhones models and new iPads.
- RAM will still have 16GB limit.

This is the most realistic outlook for 2018. I'd be happy to be wrong on these though because I don't want to get a MBP until they offer 32GB RAM & FaceID.
 
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Why not join one of the many threads discussing exactly this? :)
Necroing threads sux and this one is different :)

I wonder when will we see the first mbp with 32gb of lpddr4..

If the next redesign comes in 2020 would it be possible to see a ddr5 mbp then?
 
2008 - 2012 - 2016 - 2020...

All opinion here.

1. FaceID isn't useful on a computer, and will come once it is essentially free. Currently it is very expensive and likely makes up over 1/3rd the manufacturing cost of the iPhone. 1080p webcam sounds good, but uses a lot more bandwidth and isn't ideal for professional conference calls.

2. Probably happen eventually if not sooner than a full re-design. More cores won't equal more speed though, it'll be a marketing thing for a few years. Expect around a 15-20% improvement as you would always with iterative updates.

3. More RAM could be useful. But I'd rather see improvements in SSD and CPU architecture to further eliminate the need for RAM.

4. Frameless would be more susceptible to damage, 4K would eat battery considerably and offer next to no benefit on such a small screen. Nice to have but not at the expense of battery life.

5. ~.5" isn't going to make a difference and would require retooling an entire logistics chain. I'm sure it'll happen eventually again but it won't happen if it pushes the price up for the sake of such a small gain.

6. Why? All technology devices are moving towards non-user removable batteries for a reason. They are smaller, more efficient, more environmentally friendly, and more affordable. I get that if you own it for ~10 years you may want to change the battery once, but the benefits here are minuscule and not worth it.

7. I'm not sure that would comply with the standard. Also having a port that can be used for data connected via easily removable magnets is a bad idea. On a 1st party basis, you won't see this. Obviously after-market products can and will exist to fill this niche.

8. Fair enough.

Otherwise there's a fair few threads on this one with various wish lists and stuff. What I'd like to see is 'why' you want these things, what benefit would it bring you? Are these the things you'd pay $1500 more for, do you just want them because they exist, do you need them for work. Things like that would be more interesting than the various want for the sake of wanting lists that are on this forum.
 
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The new processors are likely on the next CPU rev this year.

Face ID might make an appearance also. Windows 10 has had it since day one. It works well, but is not a killer feature.

As for the rest of the list, don't hold you breath.
 
Necroing threads sux and this one is different

Its simply that we already had a "what do you want for 2018 MBP" threads and there are a lot of wishes and interesting discussion there, but I guess no harm is done if we start over again :D

I wonder when will we see the first mbp with 32gb of lpddr4..

Next year at earliest, probably. But if the 15" uses an Intel+AMD combined package, I can very much imagine that we could see 32GB LPDDR3 on the 2018 refresh. The saved space should be enough to add more RAM chips.

Face ID might make an appearance also. Windows 10 has had it since day one. It works well, but is not a killer feature.

Only sensors used for Windows laptops are quite large. Something like Surface Book can get away with it, since its screen is just as thick as the MBP's body...

Also, why do people want 4K? The current resolution already has pixels so small that they are all but invisible to human vision. What kind of benefit would a 4K display ever bring? You can already map images of any resolution to the MBP's screen without loss of any spatial information as perceived by the eye... What would be much more interesting is true HDR (individually lit pixels with very high potential brightness) and even wider color gamut, ideally a color space that can represent all humanly perceivable colors :)
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There are no rumours there, only terrible journalism.
 
Wishlist:

- quad core 13" with iris graphics
- SSD upgrade that's not crazy expensive to at least 512gb maybe 1tb
- av1 hardware decoding, though that probably won't happen until 2019 at least and depends on intel
- OLED screen might be a nice option, though I suspect it would add too much cost to be worth it. (I'm on an old 2011 model right now so even retina will be a nice upgrade for me)
- keyboard HAS to be fixed
- touchbar should be removed, but if I have no choice not sure what I can do
 
Has Intel confirmed a quad core CPU that is both within the power/thermal constraints for the 13-inch, AND, also has an iGPU comparable or superior to what is used in the current 13-inch?
 
Has Intel confirmed a quad core CPU that is both within the power/thermal constraints for the 13-inch, AND, also has an iGPU comparable or superior to what is used in the current 13-inch?

No
 
Has Intel confirmed a quad core CPU that is both within the power/thermal constraints for the 13-inch, AND, also has an iGPU comparable or superior to what is used in the current 13-inch?

Not yet - only the 15" models I think. This makes me fear that we may not see new 13" macbooks until late in the year rather than after WWDC.
 
Not yet - only the 15" models I think. This makes me fear that we may not see new 13" macbooks until late in the year rather than after WWDC.

Intel also didn't confirm any hexa-core mobile CPUs. All we have right now are leaks with unclear credibility.
 
I would like to see a new one in 17" size. We have had 13" and 15" screens now for years - getting boring.
 
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