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beachmommy

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Sorry if this has been rehashed a million times, I can't find any clues in all the threads here. I'm struggling with a 2010 MBA, it was one of the rare ones that won't take additional RAM. Anyway it's getting slower and slower even though I created more space recently.

Do you think it might happen in mid-September??? Trying to do things on my iphone but I am old school and am faster on the laptop.

Thanks for any info!!!
 
The elders of the internet say September (end)
You can also ask Siri. Just don't upset her by being creepy.
 
I'm going with October possible, but November likely.
Kind of pissing me off, too. ;)
 
just read the "waiting for Skylake MBP" thread and every question will be answered, jk.
no clue.
soon.
not soon enough.
 
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i bought an inexpensive Dell Inspiron to tide things over. For what i paid it is incredibly functional. I will still buy the macBook Pro but just not in a big rush now. whatever.
 
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i bought an inexpensive Dell Inspiron to tide things over. For what i paid it is incredibly functional. I will still buy the macBook Pro but just not in a big rush now. whatever.

You should have got a Dell XPS and be done with it. My daughter just got a XPS 15 and it is a very nice machine. Compared to my rMBP 15 it is smaller, with better screen, current generation CPU, USB 3.0 and USB C ports, user-upgradable memory and m.2 NVME SSD. Very fast. She dual boots Windows and Ubuntu for her molecular biology work.
 
You should have got a Dell XPS and be done with it. My daughter just got a XPS 15 and it is a very nice machine. Compared to my rMBP 15 it is smaller, with better screen, current generation CPU, USB 3.0 and USB C ports, user-upgradable memory and m.2 NVME SSD. Very fast. She dual boots Windows and Ubuntu for her molecular biology work.
- Can I ask you something? On that XPS what is the actual capacity of the SSD compared to advertised?
Apple advertises theirs as 512 GB, but you actually only get 500 GB. Does Dell do the same?
(Post the unformatted capacity of the entire drive in bytes if you can.)
 
- Can I ask you something? On that XPS what is the actual capacity of the SSD compared to advertised?
Apple advertises theirs as 512 GB, but you actually only get 500 GB. Does Dell do the same?
(Post the unformatted capacity of the entire drive in bytes if you can.)

Sorry, I do not have access to the machine right now since my daughter lives 300 miles away. But I would not be surprised to see that you only get close to 500 GB. It seems all 512 GB system are under 500GB after formatting:(. My guess is the unit is a Samsung 950 Pro, or OEM variant, but that is only a guess.
 
Sorry, I do not have access to the machine right now since my daughter lives 300 miles away. But I would not be surprised to see that you only get close to 500 GB. It seems all 512 GB system are under 500GB after formatting:(. My guess is the unit is a Samsung 950 Pro, or OEM variant, but that is only a guess.
- Alright. Thanks anyway.
But I wasn't talking about after formatting. I meant the actual raw capacity of the entire drive measured in bytes.
Any proper SSD you buy by itself (say an 850 Pro) will live up to its promised capacity almost down to the byte. But Apple goes against everyone else and delivers only 500 GB on a 512 GB promise. I was just curious if Dell does the same.
 
- Alright. Thanks anyway.
But I wasn't talking about after formatting. I meant the actual raw capacity of the entire drive measured in bytes.
Any proper SSD you buy by itself (say an 850 Pro) will live up to its promised capacity almost down to the byte. But Apple goes against everyone else and delivers only 500 GB on a 512 GB promise. I was just curious if Dell does the same.

Again, since I don't have the machine I would be hesitant to say. I know the Samsung 950 does claim 512 GB, but it is measured at 1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes on the spec sheet. I am not sure if that is what you were looking for.
 
Again, since I don't have the machine I would be hesitant to say. I know the Samsung 950 does claim 512 GB, but it is measured at 1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes on the spec sheet. I am not sure if that is what you were looking for.
- Thanks. I would indeed expect the 950 Pro to actually be 512 billion bytes (if that's what's in the XPS) just like every other SSD on the market except for Apple's. Their 512 "GB" SSD is 500 billion bytes.

I'm actually quite curious to see if there are any other cases on the market of misrepresented SSD sizes in computers.
 
I remain hopeful that the new MacBook Pros will be introduced in September either with an announcement or quietly on their own.
 
- Thanks. I would indeed expect the 950 Pro to actually be 512 billion bytes (if that's what's in the XPS) just like every other SSD on the market except for Apple's. Their 512 "GB" SSD is 500 billion bytes.

I'm actually quite curious to see if there are any other cases on the market of misrepresented SSD sizes in computers.

I actually find defining a GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes to be a misrepresentation. To me for binary memory storage a GB is 2^30 bytes, but the market has spoken and ignored us engineers.:(
 
I actually find defining a GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes to be a misrepresentation. To me for binary memory storage a GB is 2^30 bytes, but the market has spoken and ignored us engineers.:(
- A GB being 1,000,000,000 bytes is the correct way to do it. Else, it flies in the face of science, historical use of the word "giga", and the SI unit system of measurement.
The binary unit is GiB, whereby 1 GiB is 1.073.741.824 bytes.

But, in any case, that difference doesn't explain Apple's missing GBs.
 
You should have got a Dell XPS and be done with it. My daughter just got a XPS 15 and it is a very nice machine. Compared to my rMBP 15 it is smaller, with better screen, current generation CPU, USB 3.0 and USB C ports, user-upgradable memory and m.2 NVME SSD. Very fast. She dual boots Windows and Ubuntu for her molecular biology work.


I have a 13" xps 9350 that I received yesterday. 512gb, 16gb, 5650u. It's great and very small but how did I end up in thread? The touch pad and gestures are horrid. The biggest problem is no forward/back two finger gestures, this only works in Edge browser and is still very cumbersome. Tried about 3 or 4 different drivers and tweaks with no fix. Had the same issue with the 9550 15" a few months ago, figured I would give it another try though.

I have come to the conclusion I give up and am now going to get a MacBook Pro. It's mostly for the kids/school but I am techy so I want the best of course. The touchpad and gestures is the best thing about them. Now to wait or just buy now?
 
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