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which G4 is which?

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Ipyro24

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I bought a G4 and the instructions don't tell which one it is (ex, Sawtooth, quicksilve) my G4 is the graphite one it has a 400 MHz 100 MHz system bus AGP graphics Auido in port ( i don't know if its the saw tooth or gigabit ethernet or digital auido) how do i know if my machiene has a gigabit ethernet (the instruuctions wern't clear)

thanks,
Karl
 
Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by Ipyro24
I bought a G4 and the instructions don't tell which one it is (ex, Sawtooth, quicksilve) my G4 is the graphite one it has a 400 MHz 100 MHz system bus AGP graphics Auido in port ( i don't know if its the saw tooth or gigabit ethernet or digital auido) how do i know if my machiene has a gigabit ethernet (the instruuctions wern't clear)

thanks,
Karl
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There are ways of telling but the easiest is the Yikes came with a short keyboard with no 10key and the Sawtooth came with a 10key.

Information all all Apple computers can be found at.

www.everymac.com
 
If you look on the back by the serial # it has a little blurb about the computers components (eg. 400mhz/128MB/CD/15G ) if you had gigabit ethernet it will say something like GigEthernet by that serial number, or you could use the system profiler.
 
these names you speak won't appear in the instructions because they are not the offical apple names. Apple has called evey powermac G4 since it was invented the PowerMac G4. Some of these names like sawtooth and yikes are the engineers codenames for htem wheras others liek MDD/GigEthernet/Digital Audio are just names people came up with on boards like this!

You have a sawtooth, 400mhz was the first batch of G4's but agp means it is not a yikes.
 
Originally posted by amnesiac1984
these names you speak won't appear in the instructions because they are not the offical apple names. Apple has called evey powermac G4 since it was invented the PowerMac G4. Some of these names like sawtooth and yikes are the engineers codenames for htem wheras others liek MDD/GigEthernet/Digital Audio are just names people came up with on boards like this!

You have a sawtooth, 400mhz was the first batch of G4's but agp means it is not a yikes.
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agreed ... mine is 400 AGP ... and it's SawTooth ... Yikes had PCI graphics did it not?

there was something about the way the ports on the back are set up makes it easy to ID ... run a search in google ...
 
the yikes G4 was identical to a blue and white G3 rev. 2 exept that it had a G4 cpu rather than a G3 and a gray case rather than a blue. the logic board, graphics slot (66MHz PCI) and everything but the cpu were identical. if your system has agp graphics and is a 400 then it is 100% a sawtooth.
 
forgot to mention that the sawtooth is a good one to buy because you can get 1.4GHz G4 upgrades for them at around $500
 
Re: Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by MacBandit
There are ways of telling but the easiest is the Yikes came with a short keyboard with no 10key and the Sawtooth came with a 10key.

Information all all Apple computers can be found at.

www.everymac.com
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10key? What the blarg's a 10key? The numeric pad? All Macs keyboards have had one for years... :confused:

Gotta agree about EveryMac.com, though--great resource.
 
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You could just look on the back of the machine for a model number like this: M8359LL/A. Then, go to the Apple support site, enter it, and search for the manual to get all the details.
 
Re: Re: Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by ebow
10key? What the blarg's a 10key? The numeric pad? All Macs keyboards have had one for years... :confused:

Gotta agree about EveryMac.com, though--great resource.
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A 10key is the number pad to the right of the normal alphabetic keyboard. It contains 0-9 in that order from bottom.

The B/W G3s and Yikes PowerMacs did not have one on the keyboard. They had the same keyboard as the iMacs had which was basically a Powerbook layout.

I had remember that the Yikes didn't have AGP as well but the Everymac.com website included AGP with both Yikes and Sawtooth. Guess someone should notify them of the error.
 
Download Mactracker from download.com. Unfortunately the maker of the program has stopped updating it, but it has a lot of info about macs and mac pheriphals. Including the codenames and startup chimes of macs in that database! You can easily compare machines with it!
 
Originally posted by Dreadnought
Download Mactracker from download.com. Unfortunately the maker of the program has stopped updating it, but it has a lot of info about macs and mac pheriphals. Including the codenames and startup chimes of macs in that database! You can easily compare machines with it!
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Actually MacTracker is still being updated. There was an update as of November 1st to add the iBook G4s the new eMacs and to fix some bugs.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10816
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by MacBandit
A 10key is the number pad to the right of the normal alphabetic keyboard. It contains 0-9 in that order from bottom.

The B/W G3s and Yikes PowerMacs did not have one on the keyboard. They had the same keyboard as the iMacs had which was basically a Powerbook layout.
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Not trying to be rude or beligerent, just checking that we're talking about the same thing... Are you talking about the keyboard shown at the top of this image ?

What's missing are full-sized keys for the inverted-T arrow keys and Insert, Home, etc... Waaaaaay back in the Quadra/LC days, those keyboards may not have had number pads (I forget).
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by ebow
Not trying to be rude or beligerent, just checking that we're talking about the same thing... Are you talking about the keyboard shown at the top of this image ?

What's missing are full-sized keys for the inverted-T arrow keys and Insert, Home, etc... Waaaaaay back in the Quadra/LC days, those keyboards may not have had number pads (I forget).
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Dang, I lived with the thing everyday for 3 years and I forgot that it wasn't the keypad it was missing. Silly me, my mistake I admit it.:rolleyes:
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by MacBandit
Dang, I lived with the thing everyday for 3 years and I forgot that it wasn't the keypad it was missing. Silly me, my mistake I admit it.:rolleyes:
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:D You're probably just repressing the experience... Although I always loved the tactile response I got from those keyboards--my fingers could fly (fairly accurately) over them, better than pretty much any other keyboard I've used.
 
thankyou every one for your help and now i know that what i have is a sawtooth, so is it fairly upgradeable and what processor upgrade chip brand is better. thanks again
 
i just reed that the sawtooth dosn't have the 20somethin volt thingy for a monitor. but my monitor plugs into the computer with out a powercord jsut the vido card i cheaked system profiler and its 400 mhz and it has agp graphics so i don't know if its sawtooth
 
Originally posted by Ipyro24
i just reed that the sawtooth dosn't have the 20somethin volt thingy for a monitor. but my monitor plugs into the computer with out a powercord jsut the vido card i cheaked system profiler and its 400 mhz and it has agp graphics so i don't know if its sawtooth
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You definitely have a Sawtooth. I'm not sure what you are talking about when you refer to the 20volt thingy.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: which G4 is which?

Originally posted by ebow
:D You're probably just repressing the experience... Although I always loved the tactile response I got from those keyboards--my fingers could fly (fairly accurately) over them, better than pretty much any other keyboard I've used.
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I liked that keyboard too even more then the current pro keyboard. Though I found it hard to live without the full extended keyboard. My favorite keyboard was the one that came with my Peforma 600. It was built like a tank but handled like a dream. I used it with 3 other computers over 7 years.
 
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