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Yr Blues

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redheeler

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Apple is very good at using software to sell hardware. They did this well with 3D Touch on the iPhone 6s. It was the new hidden context menus, previews, and keyboard swipe that made this feature so incredible at launch. As we know, all of these were expanded to non-3D Touch devices. Turns out they could’ve been designed to also work with long-press on iPhone 6 and 5s all along, but fewer iPhone 6s would’ve been sold…
 

Macalicious2011

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Apple is very good at using software to sell hardware. They did this well with 3D Touch on the iPhone 6s. It was the new hidden context menus, previews, and keyboard swipe that made this feature so incredible at launch. As we know, all of these were expanded to non-3D Touch devices. Turns out they could’ve been designed to also work with long-press on iPhone 6 and 5s all along, but fewer iPhone 6s would’ve been sold…
Agreed. Phone improvements have reached diminishing returns. With most phones being good enough to keep for 3-4 years, it’s becoming more challenging for manufacturers to incentivise users to buy the flagships. On Facebook and instagram, can you tell who shot their photos with a $1000 13 Pro or 3 year old iPhone? No

The dynamic island is Apple‘s first big aesthetic feature in 5 years that makes an iPhone look new. Naturally they want to use it as a selling point for their ever more expensive Pro Line Up.
 

Mr.Blacky

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Apple is very good at using software to sell hardware. They did this well with 3D Touch on the iPhone 6s. It was the new hidden context menus, previews, and keyboard swipe that made this feature so incredible at launch. As we know, all of these were expanded to non-3D Touch devices. Turns out they could’ve been designed to also work with long-press on iPhone 6 and 5s all along, but fewer iPhone 6s would’ve been sold…
You clearly can't do the same things with Force Touch as with 3D Touch. Alone the fact, that 3D Touch is (was) basically instantly.
 

jambon

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I think the 'bubble' looks better, especially in the Music image, but still looks great and obviously very much doable if generating new Pro sales is not a consideration...
 

lkalliance

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Perhaps it has something to do with the smaller Face ID hardware and FaceTime camera and other components? I get tired of the "Apple is just pushing you around to other models" which is the same as "Apple could but they are withholding it from you because they are big greedy meanies." My understanding is that to accomplish Ultrafluid Atoll, several elements had to be reengineered, it wasn't just software. Perhaps to hit a price point the engineering couldn't accommodate it on the standard models. Or perhaps it required the new chip to run the new version of the front-facing camera array hardware.
 

Nozuka

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This is probably why. For some reason it does not make it feel like it is part of the system this way. It feels like it is a bigger notch. And you will lose other important information.

Just noticed that the Wifi and Mobile strength icons also disappear on the 14 Pro.... somehow this seems more important to me than a call time info and some fancy animation on the right...
 

testcard

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This is probably why. For some reason it does not make it feel like it is part of the system this way. It feels like it is a bigger notch. And you will lose other important information.

Just noticed that the Wifi and Mobile strength icons also disappear on the 14 Pro.... somehow this seems more important to me than a call time info and some fancy animation on the right...
They only disappear when the Dynamic Island expands.
 

GoodGuy313

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I agree that it has the same feel as when they did the 3D touch feature. At first glance, I think it might have more use. It will obviously go to the expensive Pro models just for having that enticing distinguishing new feature.
 
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Nozuka

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They only disappear when the Dynamic Island expands.

I know. But when it expands is when you gain functionality.
But in the example of the screenshot, you gain unimportant information about the call, but can't see cell reception anymore, which IMHO seems like a more important information during a call, than the useless animation on the right. ;)
So in this case it feels like you loose more than you gain, apart from a nice animation.
 
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