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Why install QuickTime Pro 7.x on Snow Leopard?

pit29

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I know, I properly shouldn't be asking this, since SL is not out yet and everything, but...

For Snow Leopard, it looks like QuickTime 7 has become an optional install, and I understand that this is targeted for ppl owning QuickTime Pro. Now, I own QuickTime Pro. If I choose to include QT 7 when I will eventuall install SL, does that install QT 7 Pro and QT X? Are there any features I would miss from QT 7 Pro by not installing it and only having QT X?

Confused...
 
Well I'm guessing you would miss all the export options if you didn't install Quicktime Pro.
 
Its easy to install QuickTime 7 after upgrading to SL if you find that you need it.
 
Under the installation it says "Select to install QuickTime Player 7 for use with older media formats." So… Probably to do with some backwards compatibility on some stuff?
 
It seems that the reason why they did it is because QuickTime X doesn't have all the features from QuickTime 7. There's no preferences either, so it looks like they're trying to buy some time before all the features are implemented. QuickTime X is 64-bit, but it seems like it creates separate processes for each separate movie opened, which can potentially improve performance, and keep it more stable.
 
fiercetiger224 said:
It seems that the reason why they did it is because QuickTime X doesn't have all the features from QuickTime 7. There's no preferences either, so it looks like they're trying to buy some time before all the features are implemented. QuickTime X is 64-bit, but it seems like it creates separate processes for each separate movie opened, which can potentially improve performance, and keep it more stable.
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So, if I install QT7 Pro and QTX, will I get "the best of two worlds"? Or will QT7 Pro slow down or cripple QT X? I guess in the end that's what it comes down to...
 
Because QTX is really really bad. You will need QT7 for some things since it supports more codecs, you will also probably end up switching to QT7 after you get annoyed with QTX's lack of options.
 
fiercetiger224 said:
It seems that the reason why they did it is because QuickTime X doesn't have all the features from QuickTime 7. There's no preferences either, so it looks like they're trying to buy some time before all the features are implemented.
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Couldn't Apple release the snowy one when it's actually finished?

P.S. Is resolution independence done yet?
 
Apple announced this durring the Keynote at WWDC. QuickTime X removes support for older (legacy) systems that most people aren't using anymore, and changes the API for accessing QuickTime (this is a good thing). So if you have older programs that rely on QuickTime (all sorts of media authoring apps), or need access to those older codecs then you just install QuickTime 7 and you are still in business.

This was an engineering decision to shed old code so that the newer version could be faster/slimmer/easier-to-code. Mostly I think it was to bring things in line with the iPhone code.
 
larkost said:
Apple announced this durring the Keynote at WWDC. QuickTime X removes support for older (legacy) systems that most people aren't using anymore, and changes the API for accessing QuickTime (this is a good thing). So if you have older programs that rely on QuickTime (all sorts of media authoring apps), or need access to those older codecs then you just install QuickTime 7 and you are still in business.

This was an engineering decision to shed old code so that the newer version could be faster/slimmer/easier-to-code. Mostly I think it was to bring things in line with the iPhone code.
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By Legacy, they mean anything that is not H2.64.

Luckily, if Quicktime 7 (pro or otherwise) is installed, you can still use all those codecs in Quicktime X Player: it uses Quicktime X if it can, or Quicktime 7 if it can't. (The main exception is .mkv files: it won't play those.)

Quicktime 7 Player is there for if you need the editing or export options of Quicktime Pro, or if there's a file that Quicktime X Player doesn't like.

Amorya
 
surely if you have QT 7 pro you will get QT X pro or maybe you have to buy it again. Is there no QT X pro?
 
LoganT said:
Does anyone know if Perian works with Quicktime X?
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Yes it does. And in spite of what people are telling you, Quicktime X supports all the same codecs as QT7. Also, if you use Quicktime as a media viewer and don't use the advanced export features, you will likely won't have a problem with QTX.
 
pit29 said:
So, if I install QT7 Pro and QTX, will I get "the best of two worlds"? Or will QT7 Pro slow down or cripple QT X? I guess in the end that's what it comes down to...
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It does not appear that you can install both. QT7 may not install at all in 10.6.

I came to this site as a result of wondering why VersionTracker Pro was citing QT 7.6.4 as an upgrade but Snow Leopard had installed QT 10 Player. I went ahead and downloaded the QT7 dmg then learned that QT7 will not install. I began wondering if I would have to find a way to uninstall 10 in order to run 7, but when I had worked my way down the rest of the page, I simply downloaded and installed Nice Player.

I have QT Pro under the "7" series and also was wondering what I had to do to make "10" also pro, and could find no mention of it in the context of 10.6

Finally, I started the Apple Special Event September 2009 in HD and it's playing fine now. I already had Perian installed and, as I mentioned, have just also installed Nice Player, so I do not know if they were needed for this to play.
 
Dorse said:
It does not appear that you can install both. QT7 may not install at all in 10.6.

I have QT Pro under the "7" series and also was wondering what I had to do to make "10" also pro, and could find no mention of it in the context of 10.6
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QT7 WILL install in 10.6 IF you install it via the Snow Leopard DVD's optional install packages. This can be done post-installation -- just mount the DVD and navigate to that folder, and have a go at it. Again, only useful if you actually want or need QT7.

QT X doesn't have a Pro version as of today -- no idea if that'd ever change in the future.
 
just a heads up if you're wondering something that could be useful:

QT X does not give you the ability to change playback speed. This was available in QT 7.
 
Where are the legacy codecs quicktime 7.6.3 on SL???

I am very upset that apple messed with QT Pro 7, I use it daily to export video and now it seems to be missing legacy codecs. An there use to be an icon in the system preferences that you could check a box to "show legacy codecs". Where did they all go? Can i get them back? I really could use some help here. Thanks in advance.
 
Just thought I'd add a note since this was kind of confusing to me...

When I did the Quicktime 7 optional install I couldn't locate the app in the applications folder... Thought maybe it wasn't installing. But it seems that Quicktime 7 installs in the Utilities folder within the Applications folder.

I like the new Quicktime... just wish they would hurry up and finish it.
 
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