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As you may recall, Apple discontinued the X, when the 11 was launched.

I’m hoping they keep it around, but with the rumoured lower iPhone 12 prices (notably the 5.4 model), I’m not sure the 11 series can co-exist.

Or would Apple lowering the price of the 11?

Top tier - iPhone 12
Mid tier - iPhone 11
Low tier - iPhone SE
 
Apple will more than likely kill off 11 pro for 12 pro, if pandemic was not a thing.
As of now though, umm, I’m not sure, especially considering they are considering raising the price of 12 pro lineup by a hefty $50-$100.
 
11 pro series I think will definitely bite the bullet.
this is actually a good question... buy a new 11 now while they're still available or spin the roulette wheel and wait for the 12
 
It will probably be same as last year.

-11 will drop $100 or so and the regular 12 will take its place
-11 Pro and Pro Max are replaced by the 12 Pro and 12 Pro Max since these will be around the same price no reason to the keep the 11 Pro around (similar to Apple removing the XS series when 11 Pro arrived)

And the 5.4" might just be an additional offering.
 
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Apple will probably stay true to form and kill off the 11 Pro variants but they usually end up at third party retailers (along with Xr) as Apple continue to manufacture them at reduced profile points but away from Apple Stores. If you look at various big name retailers in the UK they sell a lot of brand new older model iPhones at reduced prices.

The iPhones that Apple sell directly will probably start with SE, go up to 11 (non Pro, at a reduced price), 12, and 12 Pro.

With the 12 coming in at a lower price there is a bit of a question mark over the viability of just chopping £100 off the retail price of an 11 like they did with the Xr.

In the UK the current Xr price point is £629 for a 64Gb unit (or £679 for a 128Gb unit).

The SE below it is £419 for a 64Gb unit. If the 11 (currently retailing at £729) drops that £100 to the Xr price point in September and is replaced by a 12 which is a bit smaller than the 11 at £679 for 64Gb it's going to make a reduced cost 11 a bit of a poor value purchase unless you really need it to have the extra screen real estate.

Of course, the 12 might be the only option if you must have 256Gb storage, if Apple reduce the capacity on the 11 to just a 64Gb, or offer 128Gb at best.

Let's remember too that an SE Plus (slightly smaller screen than the 11 but presumably either A13 or even A14 CPU, in an 8 Plus shaped package) could come along and replace the 11 in March 2021 - so Apple might only have to have the 11 in the line up at a reduced cost for a few more months.

This would space out the line up better than it might look at Xmas this year - with a large gap between SE and re-priced 11 before the various 12 models take up the higher end.

The thought does occur though, that Apple could fit an 11 into that lower bracket if they did something exclusive to Apple Stores:

Sell an 11 without the charger.

They could do it with an exclusive colour (for the sake of argument silver or space grey) and reduce the price to start at £579 for 64Gb (I think this would be $549) having saved some money on shopping costs (smaller packaging, fit more into containers). By selling it from an Apple Store they can control the message about people recycling their old chargers without having to worry about third party retailers making a mess of it.
 
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As you may recall, Apple discontinued the X, when the 11 was launched.

I’m hoping they keep it around, but with the rumoured lower iPhone 12 prices (notably the 5.4 model), I’m not sure the 11 series can co-exist.

Or would Apple lowering the price of the 11?

Top tier - iPhone 12
Mid tier - iPhone 11
Low tier - iPhone SE
no way of knowing until 12 comes out
 
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