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Will the iPhone 8 be the fastest depreciating iPhone ever ?

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konicky

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Given the expected high price point of the iPhone 8 and the fact that all the tech will likely be introduced into the regular models in September 2018, I can see the value of a used iPhone 8 tanking badly.

Will it be worth the loss to be an early adopter, possibly a £500 drop in one year, when iPhones in the past have always held their value well.
 
konicky said:
Given the expected high price point of the iPhone 8 and the fact that all the tech will likely be introduced into the regular models in September 2018, I can see the value of a used iPhone 8 tanking badly.

Will it be worth the loss to be an early adopter, possibly a £500 drop in one year, when iPhones in the past have always held their value well.
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That's a lot of ifs there.
 
As a family member once told me, 'If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle.'
 
Most top-line tech seems to find its way into the next year's regular models, yet iPhone resale values seem to do quite well, regardless. I'm not sure why the move from LCD to OLED would create a major exception. While there are those who are excited for this change, the vast majority of consumers won't know the difference, other than that it looks better. Likely, the headline for the September 2018 models won't be "OLED," they'll try to come up with some other new tech with which to excite people.

If the 'iPhone 8' is the first of a super-premium model line that's refreshed annually, then this year's super-premium will be compared to next year's super-premium. The rate of depreciation will probably be similar to what we're used to. If the 'iPhone 8' is a one-off - a '10th Anniversary Model,' then it will have greater collectible value and, perhaps, an even lower depreciation rate than usual. You never know for sure in advance.
 
Not an unfair question. The big deal this year is the OLED screen and AR cameras. Next year it wil be all OLED but perhaps Apple is thinking up some other kind of "special model" they can charge a premium for.
Next year I suppose it will be a plus version of this years "8" for a super large OLED screen. They may follow Samsungs strategy with a supersized one as well.
 
It will be. Why? Because in fall 2018 the OLED iPhones will drop at least $100-150 in price due to incredibly enhanced yield and supply of OLED and other components.

Think the MacBook Pro with Retina display and iMac with Retina display that both dropped $500-$800 base price within 1 year of release.
 
Infiniverse48 said:
It will be. Why? Because in fall 2018 the OLED iPhones will drop at least $100-150 in price due to incredibly enhanced yield and supply of OLED and other components.

Think the MacBook Pro with Retina display and iMac with Retina display that both dropped $500-$800 base price within 1 year of release.
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there is no touch id in it- so no special feature other than the top cut of the screen. yields should not be that different than samsung or others.
 
gadgetfreaky said:
there is no touch id in it- so no special feature other than the top cut of the screen. yields should not be that different than samsung or others.
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A report suggested 60% a factor being the cut. So you can either assert your random reasoning or you can differ to actual reporting, which while it may be inaccurate, is damn well more likely to be accurate than your logic.
 
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A report suggested 60% a factor being the cut. So you can either assert your random reasoning or you can differ to actual reporting, which while it may be inaccurate, is damn well more likely to be accurate than your logic.
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The reporting was the touch ID made the yields very low. That is the reporting. No reason to be insulting to me personally.
 
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https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/07/iphone-8-not-cheap-case-color-copper-gold/

Let's end it here at the August report. Shall we?
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There is no touch ID so that's not the cause of any yield problems. People have been making OLED screens for a while now in volume. It's not even got any curves like the Samsung phones do. Minoryield problems cuz of the cut? sure - but not anywhere near what the attempts w/ touch ID were citing. Your link isn't really relevant or helpful.
 
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There is no touch ID so that's not the cause of any yield problems. People have been making OLED screens for a while now in volume. It's not even got any curves like the Samsung phones do. Minoryield problems cuz of the cut? sure - but not anywhere near what the attempts w/ touch ID were citing. Your link isn't really relevant or helpful.
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What are you talking about? Haha. My link is the only relevant details. You can accept it or not. That's all you. I'm sure you know the intricacies and logistics of this display and their custom design though. Hahah
 
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iPhone 7 Plus 128gb £819 new in the UK, currently around £460 on the recycling sites. Bit of a myth that (current) iPhones don't depreciate considerably in 1 year.
 
blaugrana69 said:
iPhone 7 Plus 128gb £819 new in the UK, currently around £460 on the recycling sites. Bit of a myth that (current) iPhones don't depreciate considerably in 1 year.
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1. One single data point does not prove anything.
2. Of course iPhones lose value, just way less/slower than Android phones. With Samsung et al. it's basically a matter of weeks before retail prices fall considerably. For new iPhones it takes weeks just to get demand and supply in balance.
 
The more expensive an item is and the lack of rarity the faster it depreciates. A 1k iPhone in any currency will lose 50% in a year. The used tech market is like the used car market!! No matter how premium you think the phone is, next year Cook et al. Will be on that big stage ripping in to the phone you have in your pocket calling it "slow and lacking features", keep on that upgrade cycle and take the hit.

Personally I think we're at diminishing returns. When a 1k phone is being pitched on stage with animated panda and poo, then I think we've stopped innovating in a practical sense (hey strapping a pencil case to my cat would be convenient but it's hardly practical) and got caught up in the technology for technology sake and price increases with little benefit to actual use.

The current moto is "this is new tech, pay more", well no, you drag us along by giving us new tech for similar price points - there's a limit to this price increase phase.
 
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My calculation is £500 for an IPhone X.

iPhone 8 might be around £400 as the iPhone 7 32gb is worth £349.

The X will lose more money if you ask me. £349 means the iPhone lost £250 which is not bad.
 
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