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All iPads will be getting the weather app. It is not M1 iPad only thank goodness lol. My Mini has the weather app:
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But where is our calculator app is what I am asking...
 
Why, the f*** , should the weather app be an M1-only feature?
Because, Apple.

They've been doing stuff like that for a very long time. For example, the original iPod touch didn't have an email app, or Safari. You could jailbreak it to get the iPhone's apps, but those apps weren't officially available. Then in January or February of 2008, Steve Jobs announced that the iPod touch would be getting mail and Safari, but in order to unlock those apps, we'd have to pay an unlock fee of $2 or $5 or something like that. 🙄

So, yeah. Apple has a long, rich history of arbitrarily withholding software features.
 
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Because, Apple.

They've been doing stuff like that for a very long time. For example, the original iPod touch didn't have an email app, or Safari. You could jailbreak it to get the iPhone's apps, but those apps weren't officially available. Then in January or February of 2008, Steve Jobs announced that the iPod touch would be getting mail and Safari, but in order to unlock those apps, we'd have to pay an unlock fee of $2 or $5 or something like that. 🙄

So, yeah. Apple has a long, rich history of arbitrarily withholding software features.
First of all: You're comparing two different device categories. Secondly, the original iPod touch had Safari from the very beginning and thirdly, until iPhoneOS 3 (I think) iPod touch users had to oay for full OS updates, NOT certain features.
 
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First of all: You're comparing two different device categories. Secondly, the original iPod touch had Safari from the very beginning and thirdly, until iPhoneOS 3 (I think) iPod touch users had to oay for full OS updates, NOT certain features.
I don't remember having to pay for full OS updates, but I do remember having to pay for Mail and something else - thought it was Safari but I guess I was mistaken. The point is, Apple has a history of arbitrarily locking out certain software features (or in this case, putting them behind a paywall). People should bear this in mind, to avoid being surprised by this kind of behavior in the future.
 
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I don't remember having to pay for full OS updates, but I do remember having to pay for Mail and something else - thought it was Safari but I guess I was mistaken. The point is, Apple has a history of arbitrarily locking out certain software features (or in this case, putting them behind a paywall). People should bear this in mind, to avoid being surprised by this kind of behavior in the future.
You're remembering wrong. 🤷‍♂️
 
You're remembering wrong. 🤷‍♂️
Uh, no - I distinctly remember paying to unlock the mail app on my iPod touch. Except it wasn't just $2-3 - it was $19.99. So again, the point is that Apple has a history of arbitrarily locking out certain software features (or in this case, putting them behind a paywall). People should bear this in mind, to avoid being surprised by this kind of behavior in the future.
 
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Because, Apple.

They've been doing stuff like that for a very long time. For example, the original iPod touch didn't have an email app, or Safari. You could jailbreak it to get the iPhone's apps, but those apps weren't officially available. Then in January or February of 2008, Steve Jobs announced that the iPod touch would be getting mail and Safari, but in order to unlock those apps, we'd have to pay an unlock fee of $2 or $5 or something like that. 🙄

So, yeah. Apple has a long, rich history of arbitrarily withholding software features.
I had the original iPod Touch and I definitely had those apps.
 
Because, Apple.

They've been doing stuff like that for a very long time. For example, the original iPod touch didn't have an email app, or Safari. You could jailbreak it to get the iPhone's apps, but those apps weren't officially available. Then in January or February of 2008, Steve Jobs announced that the iPod touch would be getting mail and Safari, but in order to unlock those apps, we'd have to pay an unlock fee of $2 or $5 or something like that. 🙄

So, yeah. Apple has a long, rich history of arbitrarily withholding software features.

Having to pay was an accounting requirement that Apple had to comply with

 
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Having to pay was an accounting requirement that Apple had to comply with

That was the BS story we were fed, yes. And yet they've had no problems bypassing this supposed "accounting requirement" in other cases, bringing new functionality to older devices (Continuity, Handoff, AirDrop, Siri, etc).

I mean, the 'pay $20 to unlock a few apps and be able to rearrange your Home Screen icons' thing with the iPod touch is just one example. I think I also had to pay to unlock some Wi-Fi thing on an old Mac, as well. Again, the point is that Apple has a history of arbitrarily locking out certain software features (or in this case, putting them behind a paywall). So when someone here posted that there was no way an app like Weather could possibly be tied to processor-specific devices, I just wanted to point out that Apple has, in fact, done exactly that, in the past. So I wouldn't put it pat them at all. I mean, given their history.
 
I had the original iPod Touch and I definitely had those apps.
Then you must've bought the iPod touch after January, 2008. Because that's when Steve Jobs announced that Mail, Weather, Stocks and two other iPhone apps (?) were coming to the iPod touch (for $20). The apps were pushed out in iPod touch update 1.1.3 but weren't unlocked until you paid the arbitrary $20 fee.
 
Yes the weather app will come to the mini…. On the other hand the calculator app will probably be limited to M2 iPads only, since Apple has maintained that a full screen calculator view is aesthetically unappealing it will need a special quarter sized stage manager window /s
 
That was the BS story we were fed, yes. And yet they've had no problems bypassing this supposed "accounting requirement" in other cases, bringing new functionality to older devices (Continuity, Handoff, AirDrop, Siri, etc).

I mean, the 'pay $20 to unlock a few apps and be able to rearrange your Home Screen icons' thing with the iPod touch is just one example. I think I also had to pay to unlock some Wi-Fi thing on an old Mac, as well. Again, the point is that Apple has a history of arbitrarily locking out certain software features (or in this case, putting them behind a paywall). So when someone here posted that there was no way an app like Weather could possibly be tied to processor-specific devices, I just wanted to point out that Apple has, in fact, done exactly that, in the past. So I wouldn't put it pat them at all. I mean, given their history.
Your example is from over 10 years ago and was the only time an iOS device has charged for an update.
 
Your example is from over 10 years ago and was the only time an iOS device has charged for an update.
And I think it truly was an error correction Apple had to do to comply with regulations. They initially forgot to put in the marketing fine-print that future software updates may enable new functions and capabilities.
 
Your example is from over 10 years ago and was the only time an iOS device has charged for an update.
Yes. Apple has, in the past, restricted access to certain apps based on device class (iPhone: yes, iPod touch: no). So when someone here posted that there was no way an app like Weather could possibly be tied to processor-specific devices, I just wanted to point out that Apple has in fact done exactly that, in the past. So I wouldn't put it past them at all. I mean, they've done it before.
 
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That was the BS story we were fed, yes. And yet they've had no problems bypassing this supposed "accounting requirement" in other cases, bringing new functionality to older devices (Continuity, Handoff, AirDrop, Siri, etc).

It is even true today. It has to do with how you recognise revenue.

For the iPods Apple recognised all the revenue immediately when a device was sold. Therefore it was required for them to charge for upgrades.

For devices like iPhone they only recognise part of it. The rest is recognised over two or three years as they provide OS updates. Basically part of the price you pay for an iPhone includes OS updates, iCloud services, maps etc.
 
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It is even true today. It has to do with how you recognise revenue.

For the iPods Apple recognised all the revenue immediately when a device was sold. Therefore it was required for them to charge for upgrades.

For devices like iPhone they only recognise part of it. The rest is recognised over two or three years as they provide OS updates. Basically part of the price you pay for an iPhone includes OS updates, iCloud services, maps etc.
Cool. But I'm not sure why people insist on beating this fourteen-year-old horse.

Someone here posted that there was no way an app like Weather could possibly be tied to processor-specific devices, and I just wanted to point out that Apple has in fact done exactly that, in the past. So I wouldn't put it past them at all. I mean, they've done it before.
 
Resurrecting an old thread. Has anyone found the Weather app in the latest betas? My mini does not have the app or widget, the Pro (non M1) has the app and widget.
 
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