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How much is the S22 Ultra over there? I would highly recommend that if you going to switch.
 
And which Android phone will you get?
I tried Android for a year from May 2020 to February 2021. I did it because I had a 6s+ and I was tired of waiting for Apple to get rid of the fugly camera boil on the back of the phone. They didn't so I tried Android. Got a Pixel 3a XL.

It's a good phone (I still have it). I came back to iOS though in 2021 with the 11 Pro Max. I still prefer iOS and the only way to get iOS is to get an iDevice.

So, my motivator here really isn't price - it's iOS.
 
Um, Samsung phones are not priced right.
They are still $1200.
Trade in my iPhone 12 pro for $500 ?

No dice.

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Android? Never. I’m too invested in the apple ecosystem. Everything just works better in my opinion. Been on iPhone since 4S. Have given Samsung/Android a run 1-2 times. Back to iPhone I went. Last time I tried android was many many years ago/
 
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Android? Never. I’m too invested in the apple ecosystem. Everything just works better in my opinion. Been on iPhone since 4S. Have given Samsung/Android a run 1-2 times. Back to iPhone I went. Last time I tried android was many many years ago/
Android has come a long way from the early days. I currently have the latest on a Note 20 Ultra and it’s really smooth. There are a couple of things that I don’t like about it and these are why I am going to be moving to an iPhone.
  • Settings have gotten way too convoluted. Android allows very fine control over permissions but it is difficult to work through. Battery optimization is a little too heavy handed. For instance, any optimization I do causes my GARMIN watch to stop receiving notifications. And that is just one example. There are a lot of settings and it can be difficult to work through them or find anything. I like Apple’s simpler approach to settings.
  • AOD is sort of a joke. It just shows a few icons to indicate that there are notifications le whatever. I think that Apple’s new AOD is going to outdo it big time.
  • There are some good android apps, but google play is filled with examples of crummy app programming and things that should have never been allowed. It is difficult to find the good apps.
  • The Note 20 Ultra camera has good specs but doesn’t take great pictures. Especially macro shots. It will focus on one area and smudge/blur the rest. That’s not an android thing though.
I have seen plain vanilla android and yuck. I like the Samsung skin. It looks nice. I think it would be better if they would simplify things. More control over the OS is great, until it becomes so complex that it isn’t worth figuring out.
 
Apple products retain their resale value better than Samsung devices. You are either going to pay a bit more up front for an Apple device or lose a ton in depreciation immediately on a Samsung device. The best Samsung phones aren't cheap either. I'm not sure why this is a topic anyway. You can easily spend just $200 or so a year on average for an iPhone; no matter the retail price. Even a part time fast food worker can afford that as long as they can manage the initial outlay in the first year.
 
Apple products retain their resale value better than Samsung devices. You are either going to pay a bit more up front for an Apple device or lose a ton in depreciation immediately on a Samsung device. The best Samsung phones aren't cheap either. I'm not sure why this is a topic anyway. You can easily spend just $200 or so a year on average for an iPhone; no matter the retail price. Even a part time fast food worker can afford that as long as they can manage the initial outlay in the first year.
That’s why I noticed. I had the galaxy 9 and 10. They were good phones but yea the re sale value was an absolute joke
 
Negative. And not because I think Android is bad. I haven’t used it in years and for all I know it could be amazing. But at this stage in my life I’m not looking for change.
 
Just curious if the price difference is related to the exchange rate (strong dollar recently)? Have other things gone up in cost, or just iPhones?

Apple does not explain why I guess, I just think Apple will not decrease prices in Europe or Japan even US dollars drops later.
 
Apple products retain their resale value better than Samsung devices. You are either going to pay a bit more up front for an Apple device or lose a ton in depreciation immediately on a Samsung device. The best Samsung phones aren't cheap either. I'm not sure why this is a topic anyway. You can easily spend just $200 or so a year on average for an iPhone; no matter the retail price. Even a part time fast food worker can afford that as long as they can manage the initial outlay in the first year.

This is true in the past but not now. Look at the 14 series price in Europe/Japan, with 20% increase it is crazy. Trade in price of 13 series is half.

For example Pixel 6 with bigger screen than IP 14 and best grade camera is like half price of regular 14 and like 40%, 30% in Europe.
 
This is true in the past but not now. Look at the 14 series price in Europe/Japan, with 20% increase it is crazy. Trade in price of 13 series is half.

For example Pixel 6 with bigger screen than IP 14 and best grade camera is like half price of regular 14 and like 40%, 30% in Europe.

Another issue is all non SE iphones in Apple store are so expensive, price different between 12/13/14 is so little that 14 is the only real choice. While android phone retail price drops a lot as long as you wait for few months after release.
 
This is true in the past but not now. Look at the 14 series price in Europe/Japan, with 20% increase it is crazy. Trade in price of 13 series is half.

For example Pixel 6 with bigger screen than IP 14 and best grade camera is like half price of regular 14 and like 40%, 30% in Europe.

Not to sound inconsiderate, but I don't care what other countries pay. I'm in the USA and the price hasn't changed since the iPhone X was released. Most times you can net more by selling your phone yourself so I don't trade in anyways.

The overall point is that if you are smart you can acquire a new iPhone every two years for little more than the amount depreciation will eat away at it. $200 a year is usually the number.....still today.
 
I'll definitely strongly consider an Android phone when I want to upgrade next time. I used a Pixel 4a for a short time before ordering the 13 Pro last year and it was a very robust experience, especially for the low price. Finding a discounted Android flagship for 750€ to 1000€ should be easy enough if you're not ordering close to the phone's launch, so I think there is a lot of value to be had.

The overall point is that if you are smart you can acquire a new iPhone every two years for little more than the amount depreciation will eat away at it. $200 a year is usually the number.....still today.

I don't even mind the increased prices too much, but I'm honestly quite mad about the steep devaluation of the 13 series phones. You were usually able to recoup like 70-80% of an iPhones value after a year. For instance, my iPhone Xs was 1149€ and I sold it after a year for 800€ (70% of the original price).

Now they're offering literally half of what I paid only a year ago (615€ for a phone that cost 1279€, so 48%), which led to other companies also lowering the trade-in value.

Of course you can still sell it on ebay and probably get a decent amount for it, I'd assume you should still be able to get 800 to 900€ depending on the condition (new 13 Pros are still around 1050€ at least). But that's a much more tedious process of course.
 
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