Windows 8 won't wake on LAN from Mac Mini 2012

[jpxdude]

Hi all

Just wondering if anyone might be able to assist with this. I am using a 2012 Mac Mini and running Mountain Lion and Windows 8 via bootcamp. I predominately use my mac mini as a headless unit, using both splashtop and teamviewer to control it remotely when I'm out.

On the Mac OSX side of things, it is running great, and I've got it waking via a magic packet if it falls asleep fine (WOL). With Windows 8, I can't achieve this same effect at all. I can only wake the mac with a press of the keyboard or moving the mouse. I have checked the network settings in device manager to make sure that it wakes with a magic packet, and also checked the sleep settings, turning off hibernation and fast start, but still no joy.

Has anyone else encountered this issue, and anyone fixed it? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers

-J

 

[whiteonline]

I've read that hybrid sleep can mess up WOL. Try disabling it in the power management config.

 

[DonChino]

At least something...

I've read that hybrid sleep can mess up WOL. Try disabling it in the power management config.

Well, found my way here thanks to Google, but it seems NO ONE can get WOL working with Windows 7 Boot Camp on the Mac Mini 2012. When I say WOL, I mean WOL from an S5 state (shutdown) which works fine on ALL my other machines in the network.

The Good News is that THIS SOLUTION at least allowed me to WOL from a regular sleep S3 state, so it seems Hybrid Sleep is like an S4 state and too deep for WOL to work. I guess I will have to accept just regular sleep for now, because this allows me to WOL from the internet and remote into my Mac Mini from work.

Still, if Apple wants to help save MORE power then they need to support S4 and S5 states OR have better drivers which will allow us to turn this on OR clarify whether or not we need Bonjour or some other Mac device that supports this "Sleep Proxy" stuff...

 

[DonChino]

I am awesome...

Muhahaha, so I was scratching my head and I thought about some things and started tinkering and found a solution for WOL from an S4 state. Yes, you can WOL the Mac Mini 2012 from the Internet, while running Windows 7 without turning off Hybrid Sleep.

Very happy, because AT LEAST this is one step closer to S5 and this should work with Windows 7+ although I am running Windows 7 Ultimate because my Mac Mini is also an HTPC. Gotta have Media Center, XBMC, and Plex all running when I need it while I am away from home...

I will wait until there is enough "demand" before sharing the solution, because what is the point of making an announcement to an empty room, hahaha...

 

[Henk Poley]

You are probably using: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Proxy_Service

btw, Windows 8 and WOL: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373229(v=vs.85).aspx

 

[DonChino]

S5 WOL Solution for Bootcamp Windows

Dude, you did not share any solutions, but instead "suggested" what I might have done although I am not greedy and I came back to share my findings. I was only going to throw up a YouTube video or on a personal blog, because I checked and NO ONE has documented this solution. Still, my search started here, so I will share my solution with you guys and let you enjoy the WOL goodness... Anyway...

My rig:
Mac Mini 2012
Windows 8.1
Drive 1: Kingston HyperX 3K SSD - 240GB
Drive 2: Seagate Momentus 5400 - 500GB

Furthermore, I got it to work now from an S5 state...

So I won't bother documenting the S4 solution, unless someone REALLY wants to know but I got the S5 state working by "cheating", hahaha...

I basically bought the Belkin WEMO Insight Switch, which allows you to turn ON/OFF the power remotely. I programmed mine to turn OFF every morning at 7:00 am because I am NEVER up at that ungodly hour and I never stay up until that ungodly hour. So that just ensures that my WEMO will ALWAYS be off when I go to my phone during the day. This is not required though and you can always just turn OFF, then ON when you want to wake your Mac Mini through the App...

I installed Windows 8.1 using Bootcamp and all the regular stuff which you can look up elsewhere, but make sure you install the latest Bootcamp software/drivers. After everything installed, then make sure you go to "Boot Camp Control Panel" and under the Power tab, you set it to "Restart Automatically After a Power Failure".

VIOLA!!! Now, I can turn on my Windows 8.1 Mac Mini from work and connect remotely using RDP or any other Remote Control application I set up. So this solves the S5 Power Problem for Bootcamp Windows on probably ANY Mac, since the Belkin WEMO will cut power and this will trigger the Power ON option.

Now there is still ONE outstanding problem. How to get Mac OSX to power on from an S5 state and guess what? IT DOES NOT WORK using the Belkin WEMO. I checked and it seems that if you shutdown properly, that MAC OSX will not power back ON when you turn ON the power, so that means there is some "dirty" bit being set ON/OFF during shutdown. Windows seems to do this un/properly because it will power ON after you shut down the WEMO so now research needs to be done to figure out what the difference is between the Windows / Mac option. Once this is found then you should be able to do S5 Power On with a Mac in either Windows or OSX.

Now Belkin WEMO sales will spike up and then watch Mac sales go up if an S5 WOL "hack" is found or corrected, hahaha...





P.S.
Make sure you acknowledge me if you share this or decide to paraphrase my solution, because I checked Google and no one has talked about TRULY trying to resolve this. Instead you get a bunch of Mac "fanboys" asking you to submit Customer Support tickets with Apple and to actually wait for a solution. Screw that, I am an engineer and I need to tinker our my own solution NOW...

 

[J232022]

It sounds like a driver issue , apples makes poor windows software including there windows drivers .

 

[DonChino]

It sounds like a driver issue , apples makes poor windows software including there windows drivers .

Dude, did you even read the conversation?

We now have a solution for Windows, but S5 WOL does NOT work for Mac OS X; so there is "confusion" with how Apple is implementing WOL. They implement "Wake From Sleep" so they only support waking something from a low powered state, while Windows allows you to power something from a powered off state.

Apple needs to fix their OS to let us perform the same, then all will be good...

 

[J232022]

Dude, did you even read the conversation?

We now have a solution for Windows, but S5 WOL does NOT work for Mac OS X; so there is "confusion" with how Apple is implementing WOL. They implement "Wake From Sleep" so they only support waking something from a low powered state, while Windows allows you to power something from a powered off state.

Apple needs to fix their OS to let us perform the same, then all will be good...

Sorry I thought you where only talking about on the windows side of things , Its sad because whenever there is a ios problem it seems to get fixed really fast . I love apple but for real they need to pay more attention to there macs and there most loyal customers are the Mac Users its sad . I hope you get you problem fixed .