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Cooknn

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My sister and her husband are going to be celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary and I was thinking about buying them a bottle of wine from 1981. Is it possible to get a good wine that old for US$150 or less? What kind would you recommend? I favor red, but am open to suggestions...
 
Hi.

Lucky your sister and brother-in-law! Such a good present you are thinking of buying them.

Can I suggest that you buy them a half-bottle of Chateau d'Yquem? It is not a red wine, but a dessert wine (Sauternes), has a very interesting history and is pretty much the best wine I have ever drunk - it is unique IMO.

it is listed in the USA on at least this site.

Please let us know what you do end up buying! I, for one, will be curious. :)
 
Cooknn said:
My sister and her husband are going to be celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary and I was thinking about buying them a bottle of wine from 1981. Is it possible to get a good wine that old for US$150 or less? What kind would you recommend? I favor red, but am open to suggestions...

Nice idea.

But I doubt you will find a 25 year old bottle of wine still drinkable for $150*. There are not many whites that can be stored so long, so I would look for a red straight away.

The oldest wine I ever drunk was a red - made of Lemberger grapes - with about 10 years of age, which I bought 8 years earlier. I have one bottle Chateau Musar (Lebanon) '95 here, which I intend to drink sometimes this year.

* Wines of that quality often cost $150 when they get sold first time.
 
satty said:
* Wines of that quality often cost $150 when they get sold first time.
Yeah, I'm really looking for a needle in a haystack here I know. Bang for the buck so to speak. I don't want to end up with crap just because it's 25 years old, but I'm thinking that my budget might be an issue...

UKnjb said:
Please let us know what you do end up buying! I, for one, will be curious. :)
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll definitely keep you posted.
 
UKnjb said:
Can I suggest that you buy them a half-bottle of Chateau d'Yquem? It is not a red wine, but a dessert wine (Sauternes), has a very interesting history and is pretty much the best wine I have ever drunk - it is unique IMO.

I'd second this. I've only drunk Chateau d'Yquem once at a press wine tasting where it was £185 a bottle - and I've never have described myself as a dessert wine fan but, oh boy, this stuff was ambrosia!
 
UKnjb said:
Hi.

Lucky your sister and brother-in-law! Such a good present you are thinking of buying them.

Can I suggest that you buy them a half-bottle of Chateau d'Yquem? It is not a red wine, but a dessert wine (Sauternes), has a very interesting history and is pretty much the best wine I have ever drunk - it is unique IMO.

it is listed in the USA on at least this site.

Please let us know what you do end up buying! I, for one, will be curious. :)
A bottle of a Yquem Sauternes from 1700 went for $100k in feb and a whole collection will go on sale later on this year with an estimate of $2million.
 
lexus said:
A bottle of a Yquem Sauternes from 1700 went for $100k in feb and a whole collection will go on sale later on this year with an estimate of $2million.

Aaaah .... Quality. Please note that I didn't suggest cheap plonk - only the best for your sister! :) I have been searching for details/availability of the 1981 vintage - and it doesn't look as though it was declared. Bummer. It needs to have been maturing for at least 15 years before being drunk - 25 years is just getting into its stride.
 
I just got off the phone with a broker here in South Florida. We talked about a Bordeaux from the right bank, which leads with the Merlot grape. I'm learning :eek: He believes he can get me into a 750ml bottle for my budget and that it will be *very* good.

I found some info here to validate his comment. Also found this 1981 Chateau Cos d Estournel which is from left bank and leads with the Cabernet Sauvignon grape. It's in Los Angeles though...
 
If it works, there's no better metaphor for longevity and the increasing grace, subtlety and complexity that comes with ageing.

The gamble is of course, if the wine's corked, oxidised, turned thin, bitter, sour or dead, it will provide the exact opposite...

If they ever drink it - that being the other problem with old, expensive wines - far too many people never even open them, or by the time they do, they find out to their disappointment that they should have drunk it 10 years ago when it was actually at it's peak.

From memory 1981 wasn't a "great" vintage.

You might consider less risky alternatives like a 25 year old scotch, or a half case of a well-reviewed Riesling or Cabernet from a recent vintage that will age beautifully over the next 25 years. It doesn't quite give the same wow factor as a 1981 label, but it might prove a happier choice in the long run.
 
I can point you towards some excellent Central Coast wines that will age beautifully over the next 10-12 years if you'd like.

One place I know of will do custom labeling for cheap too. Makes a bottle of wine a much more personal gift.
 
frankblundt said:
From memory 1981 wasn't a "great" vintage.

You might consider less risky alternatives like a 25 year old scotch, or a half case of a well-reviewed Riesling or Cabernet from a recent vintage that will age beautifully over the next 25 years. It doesn't quite give the same wow factor as a 1981 label, but it might prove a happier choice in the long run.
Appreciate that feedback. I've been doing some more reading about the 'risks' involved. And the fact that '81 was not great either. Need to do some more digging to make up my mind on this...

mactastic said:
One place I know of will do custom labeling for cheap too. Makes a bottle of wine a much more personal gift.
Thanks, but I think I've waited too long. I'm leaving for TX on Saturday morning and the party is on Sunday. Appreciate the input though :)
 
Dunno if you're still after this '81 vintage wine but just let me warn you that if it's not corked/oxidised then it'll probably cost you an arm, a leg and maybe some sternum too.

Sorry for the Aussie bias, but I know '81 was a pretty decent year for cabernet sauvignon in some of the cooler regions here in South Australia (think Coonawarra) but I really have no idea about the various vintages in the Northern Hemisphere.

As frankblundt said, buying wine that old is gonna be a gamble. You can't really tell if it's bad from simply looking at it but there are still some tell-tale signs to look out for such as a raised cork, sediment floating on the top (may need to twist the bottle around a bit to find this) and some people even claim they can smell a corked bottle too (it'll be pungent). Of course, if you can smell it's corked without opening it then the wine will be totally gross.

Having said that, you might have more luck with something that is less of a gamble like a nice frontignac port or maybe a brown liquor. :)
 
mad jew said:
Dunno if you're still after this '81 vintage wine but just let me warn you that if it's not corked/oxidised then it'll probably cost you an arm, a leg and maybe some sternum too.

Sorry for the Aussie bias, but I know '81 was a pretty decent year for cabernet sauvignon in some of the cooler regions here in South Australia (think Coonawarra) but I really have no idea about the various vintages in the Northern Hemisphere.

As frankblundt said, buying wine that old is gonna be a gamble. You can't really tell if it's bad from simply looking at it but there are still some tell-tale signs to look out for such as a raised cork, sediment floating on the top (may need to twist the bottle around a bit to find this) and some people even claim they can smell a corked bottle too (it'll be pungent). Of course, if you can smell it's corked without opening it then the wine will be totally gross.

Having said that, you might have more luck with something that is less of a gamble like a nice frontignac port or maybe a brown liquor. :)

So you wouldn't recommend a Chateau Ver D'fleur then? Get it? **** Over the Floor?? Ha ha haaa......ergh....:rolleyes:

A lot of people in this country pooh-pooh Australian table wines. This is a pity, as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palette, but also to the cognoscenti of Great Britain.

"Black Stump Bordeaux" is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good "Sydney Syrup" can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines.

"Chateau Bleu", too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.

"Old Smokey, 1968" has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian wino society thouroughly recommends a 1970 "Coq du Rod Laver", which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: 8 bottles of this, and you're really finished -- at the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.

Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is "Perth Pink". This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is BEWARE!. This is not a wine for drinking -- this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.

Another good fighting wine is "Melbourne Old-and-Yellow", which is particularly heavy, and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.

Quite the reverse is true of "Chateau Chunder", which is an Appelachian controle, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation -- a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.

Real emetic fans will also go for a "Hobart Muddy", and a prize winning "Cuiver Reserve Chateau Bottled Nuit San Wogga Wogga", which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit.
 
Chundles said:
Real emetic fans will also go for a "Hobart Muddy", and a prize winning "Cuiver Reserve Chateau Bottled Nuit San Wogga Wogga", which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit.


Hey! My armpit's not that bad. :D
 
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