Would you participate in a thread for a "Saving $$ for Vision Pro" group?

[coolbreeze2]

Just for fun, encouragement, and to keep me on track to save my money to buy Vision Pro at launch, I wonder if others would positively participate in a thread to remind one another to meet savings milestones. For example, we could set $4000 as the goal; every $1000 is a milestone we announce and pat each other on the back.

 

[bkkcanuck8]

Done.

 

[wrcousert]

Check with your company and see if they participate in Apple's discount program. I saved $150 on a new MacBook Air M2, plus got a $150 gift card emailed to me. The deal for the Vision Pro will probably be better, considering that it costs a lot more.

 

[coolbreeze2]

Check with your company and see if they participate in Apple's discount program. I saved $150 on a new MacBook Air M2, plus got a $150 gift card emailed to me. The deal for the Vision Pro will probably be better, considering that it costs a lot more.

Great idea!

 

[blweldon2]

I’m an education customer, so I hope they do their usual ~10% discount. That being said, I’m saving $5k since sales tax is pretty high where I am, I’ll need prescription inserts, and I’ll want a protective case to store it in.

 

[MacMan2013]

Count me in.

 

[Spaceboi Scaphandre]

No. This is a very stupid idea. Others don't need to know our financial status.

Just say if you're interested in the Vision Pro, considering buying it, and what you would do with it. That's it. That's all you gotta do.

 

[UltimateSyn]

I’m an education customer, so I hope they do their usual ~10% discount. That being said, I’m saving $5k since sales tax is pretty high where I am, I’ll need prescription inserts, and I’ll want a protective case to store it in.

(First off to the OP; yes, I would participate.)

I too hope there’s an edu discount of at least a couple hundred bucks, that would be helpful. Also, I would normally be inclined to make such a large purchase in New Hampshire as they don’t have sales tax, but I think I’ll be in Hawaii when this comes out and I’m not looking forward to paying that 4.5%.

Also… this product “starts at” $3499 - I would suspect they’ll offer different storage capacities, and I wonder what the base model will have. Also different RAM amounts? It is being marketed as a full-fledged computer, after all. And then you need a case to travel with it, as you pointed out…

This thing could skyrocket to $4k+ very, very quickly.

 

[coolbreeze2]

Yes, the price will skyrocket! Taxes and extended warranty will be bank-breaking. Hopefully, Apple is throwing everything and the kitchen sink into the inaugural model such that there is not a 2nd generation with significant upgrades in the first few years. I hope so because selling it to upgrade will be tough and the trade-in value, based on Apple's trade-in value history, will be way less than the original price.

 

[coolbreeze2]

For those that voted YES maybe since it is just a few of us, we can maintain a group conversation instead of a thread?

 

[Piggie]

I will admit, as much as I want to try this 1st model.
I know full well just how bad 1st gen models from Apple can be.

The first iPhone was pretty bad and got a LOT better quickly.
The 1st iPad was bad and the second model was way way better.
The 1st Apple watch was bad.
Really feels like 1st gen is the "we need to get this thing out the door" device, and then the 2nd model is more like a "now we can fix all the issues we knew there are with the 1st one but we were too committed back then"

History tells us v2 will be much better and solve many issues and v1 will drop like a stone in value due to v2 being better all round.

In a couple of years perhaps we will know if this is again true of the Vision Pro I guess.
But I'll admit, this is what makes me nervous about a 1st gen product from Apple.

 

[Basic75]

No. Planning to purchase the first-generation of a computer with a new form-factor? Before having seen some serious independent reviews of the final product? Before seeing what software will be available and how well it performs? Before trying it on and probably determining that it won't be comfortable for any length of time that justifies the cost? Before it matures into the 2nd or 3rd generation? And all that while having to save up a significant amount of money? No.

 

[coolbreeze2]

I will admit, as much as I want to try this 1st model.
I know full well just how bad 1st gen models from Apple can be.

The first iPhone was pretty bad and got a LOT better quickly.
The 1st iPad was bad and the second model was way way better.
The 1st Apple watch was bad.
Really feels like 1st gen is the "we need to get this thing out the door" device, and then the 2nd model is more like a "now we can fix all the issues we knew there are with the 1st one but we were too committed back then"

History tells us v2 will be much better and solve many issues and v1 will drop like a stone in value due to v2 being better all round.

In a couple of years perhaps we will know if this is again true of the Vision Pro I guess.
But I'll admit, this is what makes me nervous about a 1st gen product from Apple.

You took the words right out of my mouth! However, I think because of the price tag, Apple will not release version 2 for a couple of years. I think they are throwing everything they've got into first generation version. I think they will quickly release a scale-down more affordable model offering different models based on features. Hopefully, I'm right.

 

[Piggie]

You took the words right out of my mouth! However, I think because of the price tag, Apple will not release version 2 for a couple of years. I think they are throwing everything they've got into first generation version. I think they will quickly release a scale-down more affordable model offering different models based on features. Hopefully, I'm right.

I just remeber all the talk about the 1st Apple watch.
No they won't be releasing watches each year, you don't do that with watches.
You will probably be able to get your watch internals upgraded for a small fee.
We were all wrong, and Apple dropped Gen 1 Apple watch like a stone.
Even I thought there was bound to be some upgrade plan for the gold ones, but I was wrong also on that.
I just don't want to be a 1st gen guinea pig again and think Apple will care.
Of course I want to try one though

 

[Jensend]

I will admit, as much as I want to try this 1st model.
I know full well just how bad 1st gen models from Apple can be.

The first iPhone was pretty bad and got a LOT better quickly.
The 1st iPad was bad and the second model was way way better.
The 1st Apple watch was bad.
Really feels like 1st gen is the "we need to get this thing out the door" device, and then the 2nd model is more like a "now we can fix all the issues we knew there are with the 1st one but we were too committed back then"

History tells us v2 will be much better and solve many issues and v1 will drop like a stone in value due to v2 being better all round.

In a couple of years perhaps we will know if this is again true of the Vision Pro I guess.
But I'll admit, this is what makes me nervous about a 1st gen product from Apple.

One advantage the Vision Pro will have over those devices is that it will be running the same primary processor as their entry-level MacOS computers. And chip power and efficiency increases will be coming a lot slower than they were fifteen years ago, so it won’t be out of date as quickly, at least in the processing speed.

But I do hope they will be able to add capabilities fast enough that the first generation quickly seems obsolete. A higher FOV and a more compact and lighter form factor would be great.

 

[coolbreeze2]

One advantage the Vision Pro will have over those devices is that it will be running the same primary processor as their entry-level MacOS computers. And chip power and efficiency increases will be coming a lot slower than they were fifteen years ago, so it won’t be out of date as quickly, at least in the processing speed.

But I do hope they will be able to add capabilities fast enough that the first generation quickly seems obsolete. A higher FOV and a more compact and lighter form factor would be great.

I like and think your 1st paragraph is true.

However, I hope your 2nd paragraph is not valid. Why do you want the first generation to become obsolete quickly? Because you think Apple is purposefully holding back capabilities in the first generation?

 

[bkkcanuck8]

I like and think your 1st paragraph is true.

However, I hope your 2nd paragraph is not valid. Why do you want the first generation to become obsolete quickly? Because you think Apple is purposefully holding back capabilities in the first generation?

Yes and no, the things he indicated in the paragraph in no way would make the Vision Pro gen 1 obsolete... A wider FOV though would generally be more important for gaming and combat simulations I would think than general use... but then I don't know of any general use that has full FOV - and the only comments on Vision Pro that I have heard is that the Vision Pro is 'not wider than the Index' so we really don't know much other than that... and that is very subjective observations... people are not good witnesses.

 

[Jensend]

I like and think your 1st paragraph is true.

However, I hope your 2nd paragraph is not valid. Why do you want the first generation to become obsolete quickly? Because you think Apple is purposefully holding back capabilities in the first generation?

No, I don’t think Apple is holding anything back for future generations. I generally don’t think that’s a thing that happens.
Maybe “obsolete” is a bit strong of a word. I hope to see quick progress, but not in a way that makes the original product unusable.

 

[Piggie]

I feel we need to think about how something if developed and what things need to be set in stone long long ago, before you can start looking at how parts get made and work together.
It's entirely possible Apple had many new great ideas 6 / 12 months ago which would make the headset better, but by then too many aspects were already locked down, and 3rd parties were already making prototype parts based on the locked down designs.

It's not like a small company making clay pots where they could just stick another handle on the side a few days before they go on sale. This has to be finalised long long ago.

So of course, Apple will have a team right now, deep into the next model design, taking into account all the aspects that did not make it in time for the 1st model which needed to 'get out the door'

I often feel this is why often there is a big leap between 1st and 2nd gen devices, as the 2nd gen is the one which has all the things they could not get into gen 1 during the initial development of a product.

Plus of course, depending on timeframes, you are going to have a ton of actual real world feedback from the 1st few months gen 1 is out that, time allowing, can be fed back into the development of gen 2 or even gen 3

It will be interesting what timeframe new models come out.
I for one, and I know I was not alone here never thought the Apple watch would have been updated so fast after it's launch.

 

[stu.h]

If I want it, I’ll just buy it.
I suspect others will just use credit and pay it off that way (Apple offers 0% right)?
Actually on the fence about Sony VR2, don’t want to buy something else that won’t be used 😂

 

[GaryGnu]

Participating in a thread? Yeah, sure, why not? I'll join anything.

Actually saving money for one? I would, but my kids like to eat. They ate yesterday, they can eat again tomorrow...it's either a shower day or a food day....can't have both. Daddy needs a Vision Pro, you know.