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Would you pay extra for a non touch-bar keyboard like the MBA 2020?
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i would gladly pay 100 bucks extra, 3 years later and i still do not find the touchbar useful, in fact it hinders my work flow, i use the f3 and f4 keys alot for switching and the touchbar adds a extra unnecessary step in the process.
No chance. This touchbar falls like the butterfly keyboard in that those systems are total duds and should be avoided. The 2015 MBP was the last decent Mac laptop and the 2017 MBA was the final one of that era. Newer Apple laptops to me are over expensive junk. In truth, I have no idea what I'll do when my current Mac laptops die as I wouldn't buy the current models.
I know this isn't ideal but you can make the touchbar showing the function keys as default.
the next mac i'll get would probably be a air with apple silicon. current air gets too hot once you load up like 15 chrome tabs after couple days.
I would have shelled out for a new MacBook Pro w/ a non-touch-bar keyboard option. Love my MBA2020 kb but I would have liked to get another MBP when finally upgrading from my mid-2012 one. I just don't like the touchbar.
Only on an Apple forum would someone ask if they could pay more to remove a stupid feature, lol.
I just ordered my first MacBook Pro with Touch Bar arriving later this week and I really wish I could've knocked $100 off the price to not have it. I use those shortcuts all the time and it's going to be weird for them to be replaced with a virtual version or some kind of weird interface for an app that I probably won't use. Although I am considering using that app that moves your dock down there, lol.
I just ordered my first MacBook Pro with Touch Bar arriving later this week and I really wish I could've knocked $100 off the price to not have it. I use those shortcuts all the time and it's going to be weird for them to be replaced with a virtual version or some kind of weird interface for an app that I probably won't use. Although I am considering using that app that moves your dock down there, lol.
That's not how my experience of Apple computers has worked anyway, right? I mean a 512k Mac went for around $2500 back in 1985 dollars... that's $6101 in today's bucks, and any MacBook Pro of today's vintage walks home with us for way less than that (with a touchbar, or imaginary option not to have one).
But I would definitely pay a hundred bucks extra to not have a touchbar on an MBP, same as I'd have paid extra, along Apple's path to the big X iPhones, to have that smaller SE 2 option sooner.
Still, it's just an imaginary option. A handful of customers don't make a company rip up their product line plans. So... pricey MBPs all now have touchbars. And, I have a (cheaper) MBA instead. And two SE originals, since the SE 2 came out too late for me to go for it. Apple can make of that what they will in tweaking their next product line changes.
Heh, I've had my moments. Hadn't quite got to the $2k extra point though. If these frothy markets hold up, why not, it's past time to take off more gravy.
I'm talking about two models side by side on the shelf. Not compared to PCs of the same time, not compared to previous machines from 35 years ago
I'm talking about two models side by side on the shelf. Not compared to PCs of the same time, not compared to previous machines from 35 years ago
Yeah. I was just thinking about how people complain all the while about how much Apple gear costs. And thinking that even if they DID charge extra for rolling out a few million copies of something without a touchbar to make some people happy, the cost of that model (AND of the one sitting next to it) would still be cheaper to us than previous Apple gear we'd shelled out for long ago or five years ago.
And the gear we buy now you could run a small city off it. Apple has come a long way since that smilin' Mac face that booted up in my kitchen in 1985 with the wrapping paper and box still on the floor... and their gear still lasts a long time and is still supported well.
It's just too bad sometimes that Apple lately seems so reluctant to keep broader model lines of products on the shelf, is all I'm really saying. It's not about the money really. It's about features that different people want. There was a time they understood that. It seems to be taking a hike the past few years in the iPhone and laptop lines. With watches it's going the other way, they have more options (which is good). But the other stuff they're putting the squeeze on, like a supermarket deciding they don't want so many different kinds of baked beans and pastas... because gourmet cheese is the thing now and they want to slide in an extra couple coolers.
If you had posed this question pre-16" MacBook Pro, I'd have said sure. However, with the physical escape key being restored, it doesn't matter as much to me. Similarly, I've never owned a TouchBar Mac and only used one at a 6-month contract job, which is to say that I haven't used one long enough to personally experience a bridgeOS failure that causes the touchbar to crash on an otherwise perfectly working macOS user session. If I had, I'm sure that would flavor my experience away from wanting the TouchBar, but for now, I'm pretty much ambivalent.