Thanks for giving us a notch so that we could have more real estate, Apple!
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Wow guys! So much more real estate!
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Apple moved the menu bar up into the area that was previously bezel. The notch was the only way Apple could make that happen right now. Apple was completely up front about all of this and you had the information when you bought the laptop. Not sure what you were expecting. If it really bothers you that much (like to the point where you would start yet another thread about the notch here), feel free to return and keep the last gen.
I doubt the notch will be going anywhere for at least the next few years though.
I doubt the notch will be going anywhere for at least the next few years though.
I didn't buy the laptop. I disagree, they haven't been entirely upfront. They sold it as a feature when it isn't - it's a compromise.
So there's basically no difference.. if it got Face ID at least but there's no doubt the notch is just a marketing tool ?♂️
I came to this thread thinking that finally people were smart enough to see the benefits.
Yup.
Yup.
Notch is horrible. All windows and content must be pushed down below it. Don’t even try and argue that there is more space because the menu bar sits up to the left and right of the notch: MacOS has had invisible menus for years that appear when the mouse hovers up at the top of the screen, meaning content can push right up against the top of the screen bezel.
This means you don’t have a persistent menu bar below the top bezel of the screen. So content can use all the screen space without being pushed down by a menu bar. This results in what is effectively the same content screen space as the new MacBook Pros.
This means you don’t have a persistent menu bar below the top bezel of the screen. So content can use all the screen space without being pushed down by a menu bar. This results in what is effectively the same content screen space as the new MacBook Pros.
Here's the answer: ?... ?
Brilliant marketing by Apple though, horrible keyboard color makes you forget about the horrible notch.
Here’s the thing though - in general usage if there were no notch at all, we would have the same amount of screen space we do without the notch. The only time the notch has an effect of taking up space is in full screen mode. I rarely use full screen so for me not a thing.
Your post should start: “I do not have new Macbook Pro 2021 but..” ?
They literally added screen where there was useless black bezel on the last model. How is that not a feature? You still get the same 16:10 display of the old model. Except, now, that area can all be used for content. The menu bar has been moved up into the added screen area. More room for content seems like a new feature to me.
I just don't think the extra screen space was really worth it.
They made the menu bar larger to put the notch on it - so it doesn't give you that much more real estate.
Don't get me wrong - I don't really care. If I buy one of these it will spend 99% of its life in clamshell mode so it will basically never impact me. I just don't think it was really necessary.
They made the menu bar larger to put the notch on it - so it doesn't give you that much more real estate.
Don't get me wrong - I don't really care. If I buy one of these it will spend 99% of its life in clamshell mode so it will basically never impact me. I just don't think it was really necessary.
??? None of my apps are pushed down because of the notch. There’s a big difference in screen real estate between the 14” and the 13”. It’s great. I feel like I have a 15” screen in 13” machine.
I did have the 16” and that was just an enormous amount of space. I had to turn up tracking on the trackpad just to get from one end to the other.
For those of us who don't hide our menu bar (and I suspect it's a lot of people, as I have never seen a colleague hide their menubar), we gained an extra 4mm of screen, where the menubar originally was. Don't get me wrong - I don't *love* the notch, but it doesn't eat into usable screen real estate. There are apps where you can get rid of the top portion and make it look like the MBP of old.
I'm not following what you're saying. Are you saying application windows and content are going behind the notch for you?
It isn't a feature, selling it as one is just an Apple PR spin.
I'm with you. I use my current MBP in clamshell mode 99% of the time. Whenever I need a portable machine I use my iPad Pro. I was in the market for a new MBP, the notch was a deal breaker and it made me realize that I probably need a more powerful Mac Mini instead.
