WWDC: 'Biggest Ever'?

MacRumors · Jun 10, 2003

MacUser.co.uk posts a brief summary of the rumors leading up to WWDC on June 23, 2003. MacUser adds their own source into the mix:

A MacUser.co.uk source reports that WWDC will be the 'biggest ever' and will feature significant hardware announcements

Traditionally, hardware announcements have not been considered "typical" for WWDC's, as the focus of the conference is developers rather than consumers.

Freg3000 · Jun 10, 2003

Well, if the G5 PPC 970 is to be released, then it better be the biggest WWDC ever!

rjstanford · Jun 10, 2003

Interesting slant

From the linked article:

A MacUser.co.uk source reports that WWDC will be the 'biggest ever' and will feature significant hardware announcements, while according to eWeek, Apple 'is nearing the release of desktop systems featuring IBM's 64-bit PowerPC 970 chip'.

Makes it sound like eWeek was saying that they expected the 970 to arrive at WWDC instead of expecting it to be somewhat later...

-Richard

DTphonehome · Jun 10, 2003

Big News!

This is shaping up to be one hell of an event! I'm as excited as I was before April 28th!

vniow · Jun 10, 2003

Oohh...this is going to be HUGE!!

pretentious · Jun 10, 2003

Now let see how long it takes for Apple Legal to bring MacUser down

P-Worm · Jun 10, 2003

There should be noone save Bill Gates that is not looking forward to this.

P-Worm

MacFan25 · Jun 10, 2003

Hopefully this will be a 'Big Event'. We may all be fooled though.

Sayer · Jun 10, 2003

Uhm, Helloooooo?

Choo-choo, here comes the ClueTrain.

Developers need to know about new hardware, preferably with some focused attention in a forum where we can actually talk to Apple people or have them talk to us about what the new hardware will do/what we need to do to work with it.

WWDC is PERFECT for this as a venue for releasing new hardware, even if only a few show-boxes are brought out. the People working on the software end are right there at WWDC and you can actually talk to them. No waiting for a developer tech note to filter out 2 months later.

How else can we make new software that takes advantage of the new hardware if we are getting to see said new hardware at the same as Joe Consumer (who will complain that Software X isn't 64-bit/optimzied for the 970 or its bus/RAM subsystems)?

This is a brilliant move on Apple's part. Finally all the gears mesh.

You can bet the big boys (MS, Adobe, Quark) have the new hardware and early builds of either gcc 3.3 (or whatever) and some libraries to work on the new CPU (if there is one) and/or new bus (if there is one).

When new AirPort base stations came out with an external antenna port, there were already external antennae made for it (go Dr. Bot).

When FireWire 800 came out there were already bridge-chips for the new standard and we quickly saw announcements of new FireWire 800 devices (while not capable of saturating even a FireWire 400 bus, the new chips keep FireWire 800 from throttling down to the lower speed so you do get more bandwith overall).

Please think a little before making blanket statements about the side of the computer industry you are not involved in.

redAPPLE · Jun 10, 2003

we all know, the next generation hardware will come rather sooner, than later...

personally, i still believe, they will be previewing the processor and maybe the case, but then i believe, they will say "coming soon". there was a report somewhere, that the keynote would be quite short or somehthing, that's why some speculated, that they can't show all they want, even they really wanted to...

of course, i would love Apple to deliver the promising goods, the earlier the better.

actually showing a 970 will not even surprise me.

iTunes for Windows... that would surprise me. but well, that's another story.

looking forward to WWDC though.

dricci · Jun 10, 2003

Looks like this will be a great year for Apple, new Processor, new OS (Panther), much OS 9 software finally being OS X native, and even getting some ports of Windows only apps. a very good year!

JoeRadar · Jun 10, 2003

Re: Uhm, Helloooooo?

Originally posted by Sayer
WWDC is PERFECT for this as a venue for releasing new hardware,

Certainly this is true when (1) there is a radical departure from the existing line and (2) it will affect a large number of developers.

A major change to the CPU (32-bit to 64-bit, or PowerPC to x86) is a perfect example. Apple will want as many developers as possible prepared and excited to develop for the new architecture.

FWIW: When I registered for my hotel the other day, I found that the original hotel Apple was using for the WWDC had sold out. I take this as a good sign.

FWIW: Now that Apple lawyers have started to take aim, it seems that there is some truth to the speculations. If the rumors were way off the mark, the lawyers would probably ignore them.

jcdenton · Jun 10, 2003

Finally...

Originally posted by JoeRadar
FWIW: When I registered for my hotel the other day, I found that the original hotel Apple was using for the WWDC had sold out. I take this as a good sign.

Or it means that there's a hotel's worth of people as gullible as we are...

It's good that Apple Legal is finally playing a hand, though.

nagromme · Jun 10, 2003

Now when WWDC turns out to be hardware-free, or Panther is shown strictly under NDA, or the first 970s aren't twice as fast as a G4... everyone will say Apple is stupid or doomed for letting everyone down. And yet Apple never promised anything for WWDC, it's all rumors--some with some basis, some downright false, and most of them simply feeding off of one another. Apple only promised a private, limited preview of a future OS release.

I do agree that it will prove to be a BIG year for Apple in the end. But I don't know how wrapped up we should get in whether WWDC is or is not the big turning point. I hope it is--it would be wonderful for Apple and its users! But if not, so be it. I'll survive until the fall and so will Apple.

And even if it IS a big turning point at WWDC, the general expectations are SO high that no matter what, a large number of people are going to be very let down. But not by Apple's fault. We must steel ourselves to accept this.

Freg3000 · Jun 10, 2003

Originally posted by redAPPLE

personally, i still believe, they will be previewing the processor and maybe the case, but then i believe, they will say "coming soon". there was a report somewhere, that the keynote would be quite short or somehthing, that's why some speculated, that they can't show all they want, even they really wanted to...

Actually, the last I heard about the keynote was that is was actually lengthened, from 1:30 to 2 hours. A good sign IMO.

cb911 · Jun 10, 2003

this may be not only the biggest WWDC, but also the biggest Apple event in a long time. one of the ones i've definitely watched the closest!

adamfilip · Jun 10, 2003

It Better be Big.. i hope there is a Video Broadcast of the entire Keynote (i bet the feed will be super swamped tho)

i took the day off just for this event.. i love when the mac community gets all ralley'd up about this kinda stuff

im a nerd i know.. but so what !

Captincork · Jun 10, 2003

does anyone know what time it will be(eastern) when the keynote starts. I have finals that day and can be home by 11:30 so if there is a webcast i would love to watch it

Thresher · Jun 10, 2003

Odd

This is kind of odd.

eWeek.com and ZDNet are both reporting the same information. I doubt that they will feel the same pressure that these smaller sites do.

Tech-report.com had a post merely mentioning all of the other posts and were asked to take that down as well.

There are two British sites that also include this information.

Nebrie · Jun 10, 2003

Re: Odd

Originally posted by Thresher
This is kind of odd.

eWeek.com and ZDNet are both reporting the same information. I doubt that they will feel the same pressure that these smaller sites do.

Tech-report.com had a post merely mentioning all of the other posts and were asked to take that down as well.

There are two British sites that also include this information.

They're both owned by the same company

dhaveconfig · Jun 10, 2003

Their 'source' quoted this?

you think perhaps their source may have been the bloody email from Apple to WWDC attendees ?

This will be Apple's biggest WWDC ever, featuring:

- Extensive coverage of "Panther"
- A first-ever Enterprise IT Track
- An expanded QuickTime Track that covers content creation and delivery
- More than 170 detailed sessions, labs, and feedback forums
- Expert guidance from Apple's technical architects and lead engineers
- A unique opportunity to network with your peers in the Mac community

sheesh...

mymemory · Jun 10, 2003

Originally posted by redAPPLE
we all know, the next generation hardware will come rather sooner, than later...

It is comming later!

I hope there is a new aditions to monitors too, like composite or s-video imput.

mactastic · Jun 10, 2003

Somethings brewing... this just has the aura of being huge. There is so much information swirling around right now, who knows what will really happen. Its gonna be a whole lot of fun going back over the rumors this time and seeing who called what correctly and when. Boy are there a lot of rumors this time. What fun!

madamimadam · Jun 10, 2003

Originally posted by Freg3000
Actually, the last I heard about the keynote was that is was actually lengthened, from 1:30 to 2 hours. A good sign IMO.

My itinerary confirms that it is 2 hours.

madamimadam · Jun 10, 2003

Originally posted by Captincork
does anyone know what time it will be(eastern) when the keynote starts. I have finals that day and can be home by 11:30 so if there is a webcast i would love to watch it

San Francisco time it is 10AM-12PM so that makes it, what, 1PM-3PM EDT?

It is 3 hours difference, isn't it? Sorry, being Australian I am not totally up with my US times.

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