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Rafterman

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So, what do American football fans think of the XFL? The play isn't bad (QB is always going ot be a weak link, but it is in the bottom third of the NFL too). What suprised me are the crowds. I saw Seattle had 30,000 in week 4 and the game on now (in St. Louis) seems to have as many. At least 20,000.

So, will this league survive? Are the sponsors' pockets deep enough?
 
I guess the XFL will keep trying. This is the third go since the league's first season in 2001, then 2020 (cancelled in mid-season due to pandemic), and now the 2023 season has started, which is good, I suppose.
It does not appear to be directly connected to pro wrestling now, so maybe that's a good thing.

Is it possible for the XFL to get through more than one season? That remains to be seen.
 
So, what do American football fans think of the XFL?
I have zero interest in the XFL. I enjoy talking about the up and coming NFL season, I enjoy seeing how franchises will manage the personnel, salary cap, free agency but at this point I'm largely footballed out - at least from watching.

I'm more interested in baseball which is will be starting up in a few weeks.
 
Zero interest in the XFL... However, I did notice one of the teams had a quarterback from Bama playing for them. I thought he was still in the NFL. Watched a few minutes of it and then I was done.

Still pretty deep into Hockey and now with Baseball coming on board.
 
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XFL has what seems to be an easy marketing opportunity that they seem to not know or ignore: the sentimental memory of whole families being able to regularly attend games without upper middle management or higher incomes. With NFL, fair seats at ONE game can end up getting into the many hundreds per seat and great seats can be into the thousands. Load up the 4.3 family members and 4 tickets might cost so much, the middle class and lower family MIGHT be able to attend one game each year or two in only so-so seats.

XFL could poke at NFL by pouncing on this value proposition. The kiddies usually barely remember such outings and thus might be indifferent to NFL vs. XFL... instead faintly recalling fun family outings to football games. I recall this kind of thing in my own childhood back when the major sporting leagues were family affordable. Those are fond memories. Now prices are so high that the traditional crowd cannot go, increasingly putting those towards the upper end of the income spectrum in seats with many left empty (unsold or corporate seats with nobody showing up from that corporation for a given game). I presume eventually there will be only a few dozen people in the audience able to pay hundreds of thousands for each seat.

XFL has the stadiums and the rights to fill all seats. Some good marketing could perhaps wake up the much larger crowd who may remember attending such events with their parents or grandparents when they were kids... and having a good time. If I was in charge, I'd be tempted to coordinate with local schools with player outreach and give the students free tickets to one game... enough for their whole family... then let them go home and do the "let's go to a game on me" pitching to their families. Family goes, has a good time, realizes they can replicate that good time for relatively bargain ticket prices and then maybe chooses to go to a few games.

If they don't want to be that blatant, perhaps have an "old-fashioned" campaign with ticket prices slashed to 196X-197X prices... "like the good old days." Remind people of their own childhoods attending sporting events and giving them a bargain sampling of it at "old fashioned" pricing. They go, have a good family time and some will probably want to go to more games. Since XFL is much more broadly affordable, many more could choose to do so without needing 12-months-same-as-cash financing to buy tickets.

I've watched a few games on television and they seem pretty competitive. I suspect many players are using it as an audition to try to get a second look from the NFL because they seem to play hard. Hungry players trying to get the big job have the potential to be more entertaining than secure millionaires on guaranteed contracts. The same can be noticed in the NBA G-League and Minor League baseball.
 
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I have zero interest in the XFL. I enjoy talking about the up and coming NFL season, I enjoy seeing how franchises will manage the personnel, salary cap, free agency but at this point I'm largely footballed out - at least from watching.

I'm more interested in baseball which is will be starting up in a few weeks.

The draft is still six weeks away :(

My Bills are going to have a tough time with their cap, and Miami keeps getting stronger.
 
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I’ve watched a few games and I thought the competition level was good. There is a lot of competition for any sport these days, with overlapping seasons meaning that fans have to choose between two or more things to go $ee or just watch at home. I think the XFL and USFL seasons will also overlap, and I don’t think that both will make it.
 
I’ve watched a few games and I thought the competition level was good. There is a lot of competition for any sport these days, with overlapping seasons meaning that fans have to choose between two or more things to go $ee or just watch at home. I think the XFL and USFL seasons will also overlap, and I don’t think that both will make it.

The USFL plays all its games in one or, now I think it will be two, sites. That doesn't create fan interest. Plus, the XFLs pockets are deeper. I don't think the USFL will make it, no one goes to the games. The XFL is getting hockey/basketball-sized crowds, which surprised me.
 
Professional athletes that care more about grandstanding for their social media accounts have ruined sports for me, especially football.

I used to be a die hard football fan and Sunday's were reserved from September through the end of the season. I stopped watching 4 or 5 years ago and once I got all that time back I found that I simply have better things to do with my life than watch multi-millionaire's showboat after every single mediocre play. I haven't watched more than a game or two a year since and haven't even watched the Superbowl and probably won't unless the Cowboys are in it so I am content with the notion I may never see one again.

I miss the game but don't at the same time. I now have 17-21 extra days in my year.
 
The Eagles have proposed a new rule similar to the XFL/USFL "onside kick" rule.

They proposed that if a team wants to retain possession after a score, they will get the ball on their own 20 and have 1 play to get to the 40. If they make it, they retain possession. Otherwise the other team takes over at the dead ball spot.

Teams can only do it twice and only if they are trailing. Would certainly make the end of some games more exciting.
 
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The Eagles have proposed a new rule similar to the XFL/USFL "onside kick" rule.

They proposed that if a team wants to retain possession after a score, they will get the ball on their own 20 and have 1 play to get to the 40. If they make it, they retain possession. Otherwise the other team takes over at the dead ball spot.

Teams can only do it twice and only if they are trailing. Would certainly make the end of some games more exciting.

The NFL is too old and stodgy to do anything like that. They considered allowing D players to wear single digit numbers revolutionary. (by the way, they also proposed rule changes for wearing "0", and well as kickers wearing numbers past 19.)
 
I was a season ticket holder in Vegas for the original XFL. It was fantastic. I had two 2nd row seats on the 50 yard line for just over $500. Season ticket holders got all sorts of free swag (t-shirts, caps, and an XFL football), as well as free food and beer in a special area before the games.

Is it "pro" football? No, but it is fun as hell if you treat it like what it is... a few hours of sports for entertainment that costs significantly less than going to one NFL game with fairly poor upper deck seating and the extra ticket fees and parking pass cost.
 
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The Eagles have proposed a new rule similar to the XFL/USFL "onside kick" rule.
I guess I'm old school, I'm not liking that proposed rule change.

As for XFL, I see the USFL is now advertising the start of their season and I truly think its football overload. I thought two leagues (NFL + whatever) was overkill now there's three leagues?

Here's where I think its overkill (season + post season)
NFL: 09/08/2022 - 02/12/23 Preseason starts on 08/04/2023
XFL 02/18/23 - 05/13/23
USFL: 05/29/23 - 07/01/23 (The wiki has July 1st, most other sites have June 18th)

We're basically looking at 11 months of constant football and I don't think the appetite is there for so much coverage of one sport.
 
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