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Xserve RAID and Xserve Updates

It's about time for an upgrade. Hopefully the xserve's dismal sales may take off now...?:(
 
Man, at this rate, we'll be seeing updated 17" AlBooks before the rev a's ship! ;)

nice products, the new Xserve is. Tempting for me to get one for Audio and such. Nice price. :)

Xraid looks like some weird Metal mouth.... veru ominous. Just like big business. haha
 
I was wondering when this would be posted.

Looks cool, once Oracle goes gold I may have to pick one of these up.
 
1.33

Oh yeah, this is the first time we've seen this speed of G4 (1.33) also.

Is it a new version of the chip, or just a 7455?
 
Did this come out of anywhere...

or just straight out of left field??

How is Apple's server division doing in the marketplace anyway?? Sure, I'd love an Xserve to host my website, but...

*boggle*.. 2.52 TB.. :eek:
 
Wow, that's a lot of bytes! One RAID can hold up to 2.52 Terabytes and this little rack is 12.6 Terabytes! Can't imagine needing that much, but it still looks good.

I wondering why they're not offering the 1.42 G4s, though....

D
 
Forgot the pic.
 

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Originally posted by dukestreet
Wow, that's a lot of bytes! One RAID can hold up to 2.52 Terabytes and this little rack is 12.6 Terabytes! Can't imagine needing that much, but it still looks good.

I wondering why they're not offering the 1.42 G4s, though....

D
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Two possibilities regarding the 1.42 G4s. Either they have a limited supply of them at the moment, and have decided to prioritize them for the Power Macs. Or, they generate too much heat for the Xserve's form factor.
 
180GB drive modules I notice, up from the 120GBs before.

$11k for 2.5TB storage seems like a good price to me although I'm not exactly in the market for one so haven't been looking ;)

Interestingly, talking about the G4s being 1.33Ghz, Motorola just announced 1.3Ghz embedded PPC7457s today - http://www.geekstreet.ca/article.php?sid=1253. I wonder if it's related.
 
Originally posted by RowdyBacon


Two possibilities regarding the 1.42 G4s. Either they have a limited supply of them at the moment, and have decided to prioritize them for the Power Macs. Or, they generate too much heat for the Xserve's form factor.
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Originally posted by cc bcc
The price for a 180 GB drive is $500! That's insane..
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These sweet babies are meant for people who can afford those kind of things... meaning that if you can't afford 'em, you shouldn't be gettin one :cool:

Apple is definitely on a roll here, eh? Don't they want to save some annoucements for later? :p And don't say 'That's the way it should be' :rolleyes: ...




irmongoose
 
:rolleyes:

Why no 1.42's, you ask?

They're too hot for a 1U rack.
Reliability in these servers are as high-priority as sheer performance in these servers, if not a higher-priority. A slow, reliable server is worth a lot more to an administrator than a super-fast, unreliable server. Think about it.

Word.
 
Originally posted by Knox
180GB drive modules I notice, up from the 120GBs before.

$11k for 2.5TB storage seems like a good price to me although I'm not exactly in the market for one so haven't been looking ;)

Interestingly, talking about the G4s being 1.33Ghz, Motorola just announced 1.3Ghz embedded PPC7457s today - http://www.geekstreet.ca/article.php?sid=1253. I wonder if it's related.
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I think you're right on target. Why? Because of the link you gave us. It said:
Pricing and Availability

Alpha samples of the MPC7457 and MPC7447 PowerPC processors are available today to selected customers. General market sampling is planned for March, with production expected to commence in Q4 2003. Suggested retail pricing for the MPC7457 at 1 GHz is expected to be $189 (USD) in quantities of 10,000.
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and shopping for the Xserve, I get:
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Very likely it is the 7457.
 
i think it's great that they changed alot more than just the speed. Firewire 800, slotload drive (not really better), optional Combo drive, etc. . . It also has a cleaner look thanks to the removal or a couple gaps in the front panel (if you don't remember what the old one was like, check out apple.ca until they update it). good update, and RAID, the scary thing is that MacOSRumors were right .. . .*gasp*
 
Originally posted by cc bcc
The price for a 180 GB drive is $500! That's insane..
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At first glance it is, but remember -

1) It's 180GB. A WD 180GB drive is $275 or so
2) It's hot swapable - you could pay an extra $100 to get this, which brings the price to about $400
3) It's Apple, so you add on a premium.

Bear in mind that to get a 140GB hot-swap SCSI drive is over $1200, so $500 isn't that bad in comparison.

(I was only checking quickly for prices in the US, so they won't be the cheapest available)
 
Originally posted by Dunepilot
Hopefully the xserve's dismal sales may take off now...?:(
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I understand that the xserve has 1.2% of the market. Mac sales are only about 2-3x that. For a product that's been out less than 1 yr, 1.2% seems pretty good.
 
There's more...

Download the spec PDF and have a good look at the detail:

ATA/133 Apple Drive Module (7200 rpm)
(instead of ATA/100)

64-bit, 66MHz PCI slots
(instead of 33MHz)

So, like the first Xserve, this is giving us a taste of the PowerMacs for summer release - the 7457 will run from 867 to 1.833GHz.

Perhaps the NEXT Xserve will have the IBM 970 ?
 
I can't find the link where I read this last week, but apprently uptake of the XServe has been quite a way below Apple's expectations. It's not that surprising, given that the RAID hasn't been ready until now.



Originally posted by QuiteSure


I understand that the xserve has 1.2% of the market. Mac sales are only about 2-3x that. For a product that's been out less than 1 yr, 1.2% seems pretty good.
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