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My Beef: no one likes this and this smells of rottens were the maCook only works for the original buyer.
My ? do I even have a Microsoft account?
does an oultlook email address and buying a dell xps in 2019 man i have one?
 
do I even have a Microsoft account?
does an oultlook email address and buying a dell xps in 2019 man i have one?
Only if you set one up.

I have more than one Microsoft account, so it's not really a problem for me personally. I'm also an IT Manager that buys and sets up PC's for our users, and requiring a microsoft account is an extra burden, and for absolutely no benefit to the company I work for.
 
Only if you set one up.

I have more than one Microsoft account, so it's not really a problem for me personally. I'm also an IT Manager that buys and sets up PC's for our users, and requiring a microsoft account is an extra burden, and for absolutely no benefit to the company I work for.
Does Win 11 Enterprise require a MS account? (DoD hasn't approved Win 11 yet so I have no clue how it goes on the Enterprise side)
 
Only if you set one up.

I have more than one Microsoft account, so it's not really a problem for me personally. I'm also an IT Manager that buys and sets up PC's for our users, and requiring a microsoft account is an extra burden, and for absolutely no benefit to the company I work for.
i guess there is a way to check, which could be painful going to that homepage.
I'm positive that i did not need an account to start the Dell XPS in 2019 at the store.
 
Does Win 11 Enterprise require a MS account? (DoD hasn't approved Win 11 yet so I have no clue how it goes on the Enterprise side)
Not as far as I know. The company I work for isn't big enough to go with Enterprise...
 
Is it really such a pain? Presumably they aren't insisting you use it afterwards. Sorry if i'm missing something pivotal: regular user here, not the maintainer of an IT network with ten thousand users.
 
Only if you set one up.

I have more than one Microsoft account, so it's not really a problem for me personally. I'm also an IT Manager that buys and sets up PC's for our users, and requiring a microsoft account is an extra burden, and for absolutely no benefit to the company I work for.
I have to imagine if you're imaging Windows Enterprise edition onto laptops and workstations and connecting them to a domain, then you won't need a Microsoft account to setup each machine.
 
Is it really such a pain? Presumably they aren't insisting you use it afterwards. Sorry if i'm missing something pivotal: regular user here, not the maintainer of an IT network with ten thousand users.
Anything that adds work and requirements is a pain. It's another attack vector if you don't delete that account immediately after setup. And you have an email account out there that can be hacked, so make it a stupid name that can't be tied back to your company.

The requirement to have an internet connection to do the setup just doesn't fit some particular PC's as well, though that's a rare requirement...
 
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I have to imagine if you're imaging Windows Enterprise edition onto laptops and workstations and connecting them to a domain, then you won't need a Microsoft account to setup each machine.
As I said, that's not what we use. :)
 
Local accounts are more susceptible to being compromised if a device is lost/stolen so cloud accounts offer an extra level of security. Don't see an issue if Microsoft encourages it but make it optional. Have yet to any issue with bypassing Windows 10/11 cloud account and with regards to future changes Microsoft might backtrack like they did with TPM/CPU/secure boot requirements which are actually beneficial for security.
 
Microsoft have been going this way for some time.
For example, if you want AutoSave to work with MS Office, you have to save to a OneDrive cloud account. I don't know if any other application that requires you to auto save to the developer's cloud system. Pages and WPS enable it, but don't require it.
 
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Yep, i has the Microsoft accounts!
they know i own and use a Dell XPS 9380
and i dont need a phone number like them apple demands.
and i dont have to but 365, but they said they would like me to....
 
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I didn't want to dig up old threads, but I really want to see some serious discussions about this.

People here are so adamant about forcing Apple to allow sideloading on iOS. Yet at the same time, I don't see much backlashes about Microsoft basically forcing all Windows users to have Microsoft accounts.

I can use an iPhone, Android, or even a Mac without having to use any online account. It's optional. Sure, I need an Apple ID or Google account to download apps, but it's not required for the basic functions of the hardware. But why it is okay for Microsoft to lock in Windows computers, the huge majority in PC market share, into its Microsoft account? Why is this okay?
 
Strange. All of my Windows 10 or 11 devices have local login and not MS cloud login. Many don't talk about because it's a non-issue. With that said, MS cloud login is better for theft deterrence.
 
Strange. All of my Windows 10 or 11 devices have local login and not MS cloud login. Many don't talk about because it's a non-issue. With that said, MS cloud login is better for theft deterrence.
A Windows 11 laptop, out of the box, is unusable as a computer unless the user is locked into a Microsoft account.

I don't see how that's okay, on a super majority computing platform.
 
A Windows 11 laptop, out of the box, is unusable as a computer unless the user is locked into a Microsoft account.

I don't see how that's okay, on a super majority computing platform.

It depends on when you installed your Win 11.
Local setup logins disappeared from Win 11 Home some months ago.
Local setup logins are disappearing from Win 11 Pro currently.
There will, I understand, be an exception for Win 11 Enterprise, but you will have to log in to your local Windows Server.

I believe, but I haven't bothered to do it, that once you have set up an initial login tied to a MS Account, you can set up a local log in.

As the nice man in the MS shop said -- "All your data is belong to us".
Well, not if I'm using Ubuntu...
 
You can easily work around the Microsoft account requirement in Windows 11 Home by disabling the network connection at the appropriate point in the initial setup. I would guess that Pro will work similarly.
 
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You can easily work around the Microsoft account requirement in Windows 11 Home by disabling the network connection at the appropriate point in the initial setup. I would guess that Pro will work similarly.
I believe that only works for Windows 10. In Windows 11, you are forced to connect to a network beforehand, and no option to skip it. And looks like Microsoft will enforce it on the 11 Pro as well.

But yeah, no backlashes whatsoever, on Microsoft forcing every Windows user to register to its own online account. And people think Apple is any-competitive.
 
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