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I like Littlefinger the most, unpredictable, can't tell what he wants, but he'a clearly the bad guy.

I hate High Sparrow the most, I imagine killing him everytime if I'm a GoT character. Sorry, we are just meant to hate any religion enforcers. Second must be along Daenerys' crew (maybe Daenerys), simply gets more annoying each season. I hated Pycelle the most once. That kunt just wouldn't die.

Don't know the hates about Ramsay or Joffrey, every show needs a villain. and if you hate them so much because of how good they represent the role they're playing, then you should love them.
 
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Game of Thrones.

An interesting idea to discuss the entire show (books, which I have mostly read, and the TV series which I haven't seen at all), but I would suggest that this thread is a bit limited in how it approaches that.

Anyway, - to the OP, @drewjonn to my mind, it is not enough to lost favourite characters and those whom you detest.

If you start a thread of this sort and hope to have a decent discussion, it helps if people know why you like the characters you say are your favourites, and why the ones you dislike (and Game of Thrones comes with a cast of many less than admirable individuals) are the ones for whom you have reserved an especially dislike when there are so many dislikable characters to choose from.
 
Tyrion is a favorite, but that's a little too easy.

After Tyrion I think Ser Davos "the Onion Knight" is probably my favorite character. He seems intelligent, reasonable, loyal, empathetic, and really well grounded. I'd have him as king before anyone else in all the realm.

I like Littlefinger the most, unpredictable, can't tell what he wants

Although Littlefinger is full of lies and deception, I think he genuinely wants what he said in the last episode--the Iron Throne and Sansa by his side. One big flaw in that argument was his arrangement for Sansa to marry Ramsey. I don't know what to make of that other that some sick plan to have Ramsey break her so that Littlefinger could be in a position to put her back together again.

Littlefinger used to be one of my favorites, but ever since he left King's Landing I haven't cared for him so much. Something seems "off" about him now, although I can't quite put my finger on it--pun intended.
 
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I hate Littlefinger. He's too creepy and slimey. He is extremely selfish and calculating - somewhat of a sociopath. He says he wants the iron throne which is true, but saying with Sansa by his side is a total lie designed to begin earning Sansa's trust back. Besides the fact that he essentially traded her to the most evil person, he killed Sansa's aunt. His success is built upon a pile of deceit and death. Also I hate how his TV character is a throat-talker. That bugs me a lot.

My favorite character is touch to pin down. I like Tyiron's intelligence, I like Jamie's pragmatism, I like John Snow's determination. Of all though, I think Arya would be my favorite. She is sort of all of the above, intelligent, pragmatic, and determined.
 
Gotcha,
I tried watching it once and it royally confused me. I haven't watched it since.

From what I can see, as with other 'epic' works of fantasy, the cast is so huge ad the world-building so vast, that you really need to have been there at the start; or, better still, start to read the books at the beginning - this is not one of those post-modernist things where irrespective of where you start the tale you end up in the same place, - you don't - or, where you can play with the arc of the narrative - you can't.

My recommendation - if you want to see what some of the main strands ate all about (it gets even more complicated) would be to either start the books at the beginning, or, start the TV series at the beginning. Otherwise, little of it will make any sort of sense.
 
My recommendation - if you want to see what some of the main strands ate all about (it gets even more complicated) would be to either start the books at the beginning, or, start the TV series at the beginning. Otherwise, little of it will make any sort of sense.
From what I did see, it really didn't grab me. The violence being shown, was a bit extreme and other aspects were not to my liking. Granted, I'm judging a series on a single episode but it was clear that its a series that I have little desire to watch.

Besides, I don't subscribe to HBO, I had a 3 month "trial" when I first saw the show, but I found little reason to shift over to a paid subscriber at the end of the trial, so I don't have direct access to the show, regardless of how I feel about it.
 
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From what I did see, it really didn't grab me. The violence being shown, was a bit extreme and other aspects were not to my liking. Granted, I'm judging a series on a single episode but it was clear that its a series that I have little desire to watch.

Besides, I don't subscribe to HBO, I had a 3 month "trial" when I first saw the show, but I found little reason to shift over to a paid subscriber at the end of the trial, so I don't have direct access to the show, regardless of how I feel about it.

Granted, from what I have read (I've read the books, - most of them - but not seen the TV series) it is pretty violent, but I am impressed by the creative reimagining of the world of something akin to the War of the Roses occurring in a land where magic is real.

The grasp of history and power in a pseudo medieval context is very well realised. (Not all fantasy authors can do this credibly). Plus, his characters, especially his female characters, are very well realised & sketched (again, not something a good many male authors can carry off credibly).

As with sport, (a topic in which I have little to no interest) Game of Thrones is a great ice-breaker in conversations when working in an international environment. Indeed, if I were still teaching, it is something I would readily use in a classroom, as, in my experience, quite a number of bright, introverted guys (and quiet a few women, too) like good quality fantasy, and it is a very good way of connecting with them.
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From what I did see, it really didn't grab me. The violence being shown, was a bit extreme and other aspects were not to my liking. Granted, I'm judging a series on a single episode but it was clear that its a series that I have little desire to watch.

Besides, I don't subscribe to HBO, I had a 3 month "trial" when I first saw the show, but I found little reason to shift over to a paid subscriber at the end of the trial, so I don't have direct access to the show, regardless of how I feel about it.

Granted, from what I have read (I've read the books, - most of them - but not seen the TV series) it is pretty violent, but I am impressed by the creative reimagining of the world of something akin to the War of the Roses occurring in a land where magic is real.

The grasp of history and power in a pseudo medieval context is very well realised. (Not all fantasy authors can do this credibly). Plus, his characters, especially his female characters, are very well realised & sketched (again, not something a good many male authors can carry off credibly).

As with sport, (a topic in which I have little to no interest) Game of Thrones is a great ice-breaker in conversations when working in an international environment. Indeed, if I were still teaching, it is something I would readily use in a classroom, as, in my experience, quite a number of bright, introverted guys (and quiet a few women, too) like good quality fantasy, and it is a very good way of connecting with them.
 
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Not sure I know who my favorite is now. I like a lot of the characters -- even some of the villains because of how well they are portrayed by the actors and actresses. I think Lena does an amazing job as Cersei.
 
My favorite and most hated character is the same guy, the Kingslayer.

He started out as your stereotypical arrogant, rich boy. He's Mr Perfect: looks, fighting prowess, wealth, smarts...in every measurable way superior. He knows it and won't let you forget it.

But after losing his sword hand, he learned humility and compassion. All his great skills, charisma and leadership abilities tempered with his new found humility made him a kinder, gentler version of Tywin Lannister. And learning his motive for killing the Mad King earns him new respect from me. Yet he never uses it as excuse when others curse him for being the Kingslayer. The man is the epitome of noble.

On a side note, I now believe Jaime, not Tyrion, is the valonqar ("little brother") spoken of in Maggy the Frog's prophecy.
 
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My favorite and most hated character is the same guy, the Kingslayer.

He started out as your stereotypical arrogant, rich boy. He's Mr Perfect: looks, fighting prowess, wealth, smarts...in every measurable way superior. He knows it and won't let you forget it.

But after losing his sword hand, he learned humility and compassion. All his great skills, charisma and leadership abilities tempered with his new found humility made him a kinder, gentler version of Tywin Lannister. And learning his motive for killing the Mad King earns him new respect from me. Yet he never uses it as excuse when others curse him for being the Kingslayer. The man is the epitome of noble.

On a side note, I now believe Jaime, not Tyrion, is the valonqar ("little brother") spoken of in Maggy the Frog's prophecy.

As you point out, one's favorite and most-hated character can be the same. GoT has several who are horrible people, but they're drawn and acted so well that they're more compelling than some of the good folks. Cersei Lannister and Ramsay Bolton fall into this category for me. Cersei gets the edge because she's more complex, and Lena Headey is an excellent actress. I think that she deserves the Emmy for which she was nominated the other day.

Among the relatively good folks, gauged by how much I enjoy them whenever they're on screen: Tyrion, Sam, and Ser Davos are at the top of my list.

I agree that Jaime has become increasingly fascinating over time as he becomes more honorable and tries to to the right thing. He and his sister will be interesting to watch in S7.
 
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I read the books after watching the first season because I could not wait for Joffrey to die. He was heinous, but nothing compared to Ramsey Bolten. Of course, this is an actor of great range. If you have never seen the show "Vicious," you must. On that show he plays the most native young man, always being hit on by an older woman while searching for the girl of his dreams.

Now that both of them are gone, Cersei moves into first place. She's going to get worse now that she's good no anchor.

My favorite is a tire between Arya, Ser Davros, and Tyrion. I simply like following Arya's journey. The other two may be the only truly good men in the many lands that make up the GoT landscape.
 
Lena definitely deserves an award. I think she's the best on the show. But the kid that played Joffrey made me really hate him, so he did well. I like Tyrion and Jaime probably the best.
 
Littlefinger probably had the most hilarious scene for me. He was looking through a peephole and saw one of his prostitutes giving oral sex while her earrings are clanking. A "john" enters. He grabs that same chick with the loud earrings and wipes the semen from her lip. Then the pro and john French kiss right after. Gross but I loved Littlefinger's smirk when he walked away.

I actually like all the Lannister children and their father. Tyrion has the best quips along with Bronn. "Did he tell you to f*** her too?" I love everytime he whacks Joffrey across the face. But I can't stand Sansa and Shae. Jaimie is complicated like Littlefinger. I liked his nobility to Brianne of Tarth. He is similar to Sawyer from LOST. Cersei is conniving and despicable but I love Lena Heady because she is so opposite of who she portrays. I bet she is having a ball being such a wicked c-word in the show and act opposite like the Spartan queen in the 300 films.

Never liked most of the Starks except for maybe Arya and Ned. You know nothing, John Snow! Robb was ok. Sansa is so useless to me. Michelle Fairley as Cat is great but her character never appealed to me. "My son is fighting a war! Not playing one!" One of the funniest to me and I know we are supposed to hate him after the Red Wedding is Lord Walder Frey. "Your mother would still be a milk maid if I hadn't squirted you into her belly!"

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I like the despicable ones as long as they have witty lines. Seems more fun to portray those roles.
 
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I can go beyond just GoT...

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My TOP 10 Characters

LOST
1. James "Sawyer" Ford
2. Desmond
3. Eko
4. Locke (best LOST character)
5. Sayid
6. Jin
7. Sun
8. Hurley
9. Ben
10. Juliet

* Honorable mentions: Jack who became a jack*** by Season 3. Great in Season 1. Richard (had my #2 fav episode behind The Constant), Kate, Daniel, Danielle, Kemy, Rose, Claire, and Charlie who got annoying until the S3 finale. The most despicable character was Locke's father.


Heroes
1. Noah
2. Sylar
3. Hiro
4. Isaac
5. Peter
6. Ando (although the actor is Korean!)
7. Claude (he got to taste Kate Winslet)
8. Candice (Missy is hot!)

Can't think of anymore. Never liked Claire, Niki/Tracy, Micah, Nathan, Mama Petrelli, Mohinder, and The Haitian. It was never good again after S1. One-season wonder. Peter Petrelli wasn't that great to me until the last half of S1 when he found his powers and used it for good.


The Walking Dead
1. Daryl
2. Shane
3. Rick
4. Hershel
5. The Governor
6. Andrea
7. Merle
8. Michonne
9. Dale
10. Maggie

Never cared for Lori, Carol, or T-Dog. I think S2 is still my fav because of the conflict between two best friends. We also see Andrea toughen up. Laurie Holden isn't particularly attractive to me but she still has some appeal. Watch her in Dumb And Dumber To and how she holds a gun the proper way. Ending for Sophia, Dale, and Shane is still heartbreaking...


Game of Thrones
1. Tyrion
2. Jaime
3. Walder
4. Bronn
5. Daenerys
6. Tywin
7. Ned
8. Arya
9. Cersei
10. Margaery (anytime Dormer takes it off like in The Tudors, I'm there...)

Honorable mentions: Ygritte (funny lines and great body on her), Petyr (Littlefinger), and Robert Baratheon (fat horndog).

Never cared for Jon Snow, Theon Greyjoy, and The Hound. Sansa is basically Shannon from LOST. Both are pretty actresses but they have the Paris Hilton role.


Characters
1. LOST
2. The Walking Dead
3. Game of Thrones
4. Heroes

Story
1. The Walking Dead (most realistic)
2. Game of Thrones (most depth)
3. LOST (had the best S1 though)
4. Heroes (jumped the shark after S1)

Music
1. LOST
2. The Walking Dead
3. Game of Thrones
4. Heroes

Production Values
1. Game of Thrones
2. LOST
3. Heroes
4. The Walking Dead

Replay Value
1. Game of Thrones (to understand it)
2. LOST
3. The Walking Dead (suspense fades)
4. Heroes

My Overall Favorites
1. LOST, 8.5/10
2. The Walking Dead, 8.5/10
3. Game of Thrones, 8/10
4. Heroes, 7/10


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LOST started strong with S1 & S2. Got weak by S3 once The Others were revealed. S4 is my fav but short. S5 got time travel messy. S6 was the weakest. But it got me completely hooked by S1 esp listening to the Michael Giacchino score, "16 years" from the French woman, and The Walkabout's surprisingly, beautiful ending.

Just got way too weird after S4. Smoke monster, The Man In Black, and a bland Jacob. Ab Aeterno was the only great episode in the final season. Unlike TWD and GoT that got better by S5. But I can forgive LOST for jumping the shark since it got me hooked into the ensemble cast and serial show with the cliffhanger endings that others tried to emulate...


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The Walking Dead started off strong with S1 & S2. S3 wasn't as good and S4 was weak. Picked up again with S5. I think some of the character death scenes are done much better here than on LOST. More dramatic and with a meaningful purpose. Rick vs Shane showdown was one of the most hearbreaking along with Rick vs The Governor in S4. You really feel sad when a character dies. They killed two of the top three billings by early S3. Not afraid to kill off important characters.


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Game of Thrones is arguably the best TV show on right now although TWD might have a say on that too. The production values and cinematography is fantastic. It got stronger by S4. But it can get confusing esp if you haven't read the novels. Long scenes with dialogue. Supernatural scenes that makes you go, huh? It needs to be looped to be understood better. It doesn't hold back with censorship either like the other three shows since it is on HBO like where Rome was on.

I love the female nudity. The Lord of the Rings for adults. Thank you, Emilia, Natalie, Carice, etc. They also have more deeper characters where you don't know whether to love them or hate them or love and hate them at the same time. Right, Kingslayer? Jaime is how I felt with Sawyer in LOST. Once he started hilariously trash talking Brienne in S3 and then trying to save her, I was sold on him. Like Anakin Skywalker, Jaime still had some good in him. It's the roles within that gray area that are the most intriguing.


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Heroes was never good after S1. Another overhyped NBC show to copy LOST's success. But the last half of S1 was pretty awesome especially the alternative future episode where Peter and Hiro are actually bad***. YATTA! Then the writer strike killed off S2's potential and the Isaac precognition McGuffin angle kept playing a role to move the story for S3.

Never lived up to its potential as an X-Men wannabe. LOST, TWD, and GoT are all good shows. Heroes was mediocre and sometimes annoying like Nikki and Claire. I wanted to turn off the show everytime Claire got emo. She hates her power but she can't just shut up and die. Hayden is a babe but let's just unsave the cheerleader to save me from turning off the TV! Matt was lame. No interest in Heroes: Reborn.
 
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