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MacRumors
Apr 17, 2009, 12:43 PM
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Over the past couple of days, users have been digging through the latest iPhone OS 3.0 beta (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/14/apple-seeds-iphone-os-3-0-beta-3-and-new-sdk-to-developers/) for signs of new features, and World of Apple and AppleInsider have put together some nice screenshot galleries illustrating a number of the findings.

World of Apple's gallery (http://news.worldofapple.com/archives/2009/04/15/a-look-at-iphone-os-30-beta-3/) shows a number of features primarily related to music and podcast functionality, including several notable ones:

- Variable scrubbing speed during iPod playback. Provides users with four options to allow them to fine tune navigation within a track.
- Variable playback speed for podcasts. Options include 1/2x, 1x, and 2x speeds.
- Single-tap jump back for podcasts. Tap a single icon to rewind podcast playback by 30 seconds.
- Additional data for podcasts saved on iPhone. Saved podcasts now display run time, time left, and publication date.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/04/17/123408-variable_scrubbing_300.png

Screenshot demonstrating variable scrubbing speed (World of Apple)

AppleInsider highlights (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/17/new_discoveries_turn_up_in_betas_of_apples_iphone_3_0_software.html) several other changes observed in the iPhone 3.0 beta:

- Ability to close all open Safari windows. Previously there was no ability to close the last remaining Safari window, but a red "x" is now functional in the page navigation, allowing users to close the final window, replacing it with a blank page.
- Battery percentage indicators. Allows users to view their remaining battery life as a percentage rather than just as an icon.
- Push notifications preferences. Allows users to toggle whether they want to allow push notifications as sounds, alerts, and/or badges.
- Expanded Data Detectors. Increased ability to automatically detect text such as e-mail addresses, phone numbers, and addresses and activate appropriate actions such as initiating a phone call or adding info to the Address Book when the items are touched.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/04/17/123408-notes_data_detector_500.png

Screenshots demonstrating Data Detectors in Notes application (AppleInsider)

Article Link: iPhone 3.0 Beta Galleries Illustrate New Features (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/17/iphone-3-0-beta-galleries-illustrate-new-features/)



pismodude2
Apr 17, 2009, 12:45 PM
A lot of these things were there last time. Scrubbing and the 30 sec jump back were definitely there for audiobooks.

Lesser Evets
Apr 17, 2009, 12:47 PM
Binks' Sake.... you people rock.

Penguinwrangler
Apr 17, 2009, 12:47 PM
3.0 looks like it's adding a lot of polish to the existing feature-set as well, this is a very good sign.

newwavedave
Apr 17, 2009, 12:50 PM
Yeah, all the ipod features were in the last version of the beta update. Nothing new there.

acfusion29
Apr 17, 2009, 12:51 PM
I like the close all windows in Safari... :)

veeco3110
Apr 17, 2009, 12:54 PM
im such a nerd that im excited for a software update...haha this all looks really promising

joemama
Apr 17, 2009, 12:56 PM
Does anyone know if there is any code in reference to the Nike+ sensor being built into the next iPhone (a-la the Touch)?

Is there a way someone can check?

Blackbookluvr
Apr 17, 2009, 12:57 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!

basesloaded190
Apr 17, 2009, 12:58 PM
I like the close all windows in Safari... :)

Me too, for some reason that bothers my that i can't close all of them right now, but it makes me happy to see that they are changing that option.

I am also pleased to see the info about the Push notification options. It will be nice to customize the apps with specific notification option

Goona
Apr 17, 2009, 01:00 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!

What about the things the iphone can do that your pocket pc cant?

basesloaded190
Apr 17, 2009, 01:03 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!

You pocket pc plays podcast and your itunes library seamlessly? your pocked pc can scroll with different speeds, and recognize email addresses? huh.

Stately
Apr 17, 2009, 01:03 PM
This looks good, a little tightening and tweaking is always good. :cool:

flipperman75
Apr 17, 2009, 01:05 PM
The current 2.2.1 software already shows total time, time remaining, and date for podcasts.

dernhelm
Apr 17, 2009, 01:06 PM
Good for the percentage on the battery icon indicator. Maybe then they can remove the annoying 10% remaining popup that interrupts me while I am trying to work...

Ross123
Apr 17, 2009, 01:06 PM
I really like the idea of the battery life being given in a %, much more useful than looking at a battery icon. :D

Stately
Apr 17, 2009, 01:07 PM
You pocket pc plays podcast and your itunes library seamlessly? your pocked pc can scroll with different speeds, and recognize email addresses? huh.

Apple loyalists will always come under the scrutiny of others, even if the scrutiny has no backing. It comes with the territory of anything great unfortunately. :cool:

DocNYz
Apr 17, 2009, 01:08 PM
This is awesome, I seriously sent them feedback like the first week after the first iPhone 2G came out saying that in notes you should be able to click on the numbers and email addresses since that's where you write them most of the time when someone gives them to you!

TheSpaz
Apr 17, 2009, 01:10 PM
Holy crap. I posted about the Safari window thing in the 100 New Features thread and nobody cared. Now all of a sudden it's some wild hidden feature? There's a TON of little features in 3.0... geeze.


20. SAFARI:
NF#31 CLOSE ALL OPEN WEB PAGESnow provides a blank page and bookmarks auto open when you reopen the app. (Posted by TheSpaz)

jamesryanbell
Apr 17, 2009, 01:11 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!

Crap form factor, no comparable app store, crap OS, and a stylus as well. Let's not leave that out.

Unspoken Demise
Apr 17, 2009, 01:12 PM
This makes me so happy that my lunch hour is in 3 minutes and im going to get my 3g.

That battery percentage is pretty cool and handy.

10th Wonder
Apr 17, 2009, 01:13 PM
Binks' Sake.... you people rock.

Yohohohohoho Indeed they do! Brook has to be the funniest character in One Piece

basesloaded190
Apr 17, 2009, 01:14 PM
Holy crap. I posted about the Safari window thing in the 100 New Features thread and nobody cared. Now all of a sudden it's some wild hidden feature? There's a TON of little features in 3.0... geeze.

Don't get your panties in a bundle..its easier to share the new features on the front page i think versus inside the forums. But by all means we can give you all the credit for that finding if that makes you happy:D

iMacoo7
Apr 17, 2009, 01:15 PM
Good to know whether the features were there previously or not, always good to get more knowledge on one site instead of scouring for the information.
maybe more hidden little gems will be spotted as time goes forward

chabig
Apr 17, 2009, 01:16 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!

Your Pocket PC made phone calls?

chabig
Apr 17, 2009, 01:17 PM
The current 2.2.1 software already shows total time, time remaining, and date for podcasts.

I don't think those things were touted as being new.

ipoppy
Apr 17, 2009, 01:19 PM
If they haven't dug out iChat av in their findings yet then that is not good sign for me. Unless iChat av was totally taken out from OS 3.0 Beta, but then is it possible to not leave any tracks of it?
Let see that in June;)

Lesser Evets
Apr 17, 2009, 01:20 PM
Thank god for scrubbing coming along. It's a pain to navigate songs at the moment.

Yohohohohoho Indeed they do! Brook has to be the funniest character in One Piece

I love him. It's great to see OP infiltrates MacRumors.

http://cityofclifford.com/BoSm.jpg

ivladster
Apr 17, 2009, 01:20 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!
what, lol your pocket pc can sync to itunes and download podcasts? that's cool

ivladster
Apr 17, 2009, 01:21 PM
If they haven't dug out iChat av in their findings yet then that is not good sign for me. Unless iChat av was totally taken out from OS 3.0 Beta, but then is it possible to not leave any tracks of it?
Let see that in June;)
Any crazy changes will be shown on WWDC and then last beta will have all of them. After that iPhone will be ready to be released.

BRLawyer
Apr 17, 2009, 01:23 PM
Binks' Sake.... you people rock.

And there are still people comparing the iPhone with the rest...even without any hardware updates, Apple is so much above its competitors that it's just embarassing to talk about them... :rolleyes: GO APPLE!

SnowLeopard2008
Apr 17, 2009, 01:27 PM
Sweet. I'm getting more excited for this summer. Good thing I held back on my 3G purchase.

Doju
Apr 17, 2009, 01:29 PM
And Apple's poor competition continues to be slaughtered. I mean, the iPhone already beats any other phone in practically every single way. Poor companies are just being further kicked into the hole at this point.

There's no way this monopoly phone will ever descend from its eternal throne GO APPLE! Best phone ever, just keeps getting better, and Blackberries and other (now) junk just keep getting OWNED.

zephead
Apr 17, 2009, 01:32 PM
I think the iPod app needs an overhaul to match the interface of the Remote app. The Remote app shows icons to distinguish between smart playlists and regular playlists, HAS PLAYLIST FOLDERS, and shows how many items are in a playlist/folder. It also gives you the artist > album > song view (with the alpha-bar) if you're making a new playlist, unlike the iPod app where it shows you every song alphabetically and you have to manually scroll to get to your song with no alpha-bar.

mainstreetmark
Apr 17, 2009, 01:35 PM
Still no "wheel" method of scrubbing, as introduced in the iPod? Come on, apple! Get with the program!!

(Just kidding.... i think apple does an excellent job, but i'm just trying to fit in with the forum attitude. Also, i really do want an ipod style wheel for scrubbing)

mikejd1
Apr 17, 2009, 01:36 PM
a bit off topic, but the excitment of this stuff had me go over to the att website to again check my upgrade eligability status and the date of 12/19/2009 is now gone! I wonder if this means I would be eligable for a subsidized purchase of the new iphone this summer??

Me hopes, what about the rest of you 3G owners?

starcke
Apr 17, 2009, 01:42 PM
My 1st gen iPhone died a few weeks ago. Since then, I've been using a friend's Blackjack II, not wanting to buy a (soon to be) outdated iPhone 3g.

What's the old saying? The waiting is the hardest part? I totally agree...

Insatiable
Apr 17, 2009, 01:50 PM
I really like the new audio features--especially the podcast skip-back button, which will save me from the regular frustration I encounter when I try to rewind 15-20 seconds and the button "sticks", going all the way back to the beginning. Annoying!

I'm a very regular podcast listener, so I also hope the current method of updating podcasts over the phone is modified. "Get More Episodes" opens a link in Safari, then opens iTunes...where sometimes the podcast still isn't listed, which means I have to enter it in the Search field. I'd love to simply be able to update podcasts solely from inside the iPod player. If not that, I'd love to be able to find out if there are new releases for a given podcast without having to leave the player.

gigidey
Apr 17, 2009, 01:57 PM
Does someone want to explain what scrubbing is? Sehr Danke!

Charlii
Apr 17, 2009, 02:00 PM
Can anybody tell me how to access the new settings, like battery percentage? I have the latest beta but can't find it anywhere...

eastercat
Apr 17, 2009, 02:07 PM
Since I'm not getting the new iPhone this summer, I'm doubly excited about the new software.

diemos
Apr 17, 2009, 02:08 PM
why would anybody negatively rate this, all of those are all nice new features and tweaks.

pika2000
Apr 17, 2009, 02:09 PM
I'm still waiting for shuffle-by-album capability, something that the regular iPods/nanos have been able to do from the get-go.

wallstreetcrash
Apr 17, 2009, 02:11 PM
So does push work for GMail?

Thanks.

Charlii
Apr 17, 2009, 02:12 PM
I'm still waiting for shuffle-by-album capability, something that the regular iPods/nanos have been able to do from the get-go.
Couldn't you do that before? You can in 3.0 anyhow...

jayducharme
Apr 17, 2009, 02:15 PM
One feature I hope gets included is the ability to do a screen dump to a projector. Right now only photos and videos will output. But as a teacher, it would be great to be able to display documents, websites and applications.

Lepton
Apr 17, 2009, 02:16 PM
If they haven't dug out iChat av in their findings yet then that is not good sign for me. Unless iChat av was totally taken out from OS 3.0 Beta, but then is it possible to not leave any tracks of it?
Let see that in June;) The thing is, all the underpinnings for iChat AV are in there. Video record ability, a new video streaming mechanism, push notification for chat invites... All you need is an app to take advantage of it, which they could drop in at the last moment or anytime, and hopefully a new phone with a camera set up for it.

1) About the camera, I expect on a future phone or tablet not two cameras front and back, but one camera on a pivot that can face front or back. Why? Because Apple has a PATENT for exactly this. It was news back then, people figured it would be used on the lid of a laptop for the built in iSights, but it would work here just as well.

2) On data detectors - Yup.

I blogged both of these things way back when. My article predicting what I call the Apple NetPad mentions the camera, and one on why Cut and Paste isn't needed oh so very badly emphasized data detectors are a better way to do many othe the things we typically do by cut and paste.

myallo.com/blog (http://www.myallo.com/blog)

W1LLk
Apr 17, 2009, 02:16 PM
Does someone want to explain what scrubbing is? Sehr Danke!

If I'm not mistaken, it allows you to playback audio at variable speeds, so you can listen for a specific point in a podcast, then resume 1x playback.

StuBeck
Apr 17, 2009, 02:17 PM
I really like the idea of the battery life being given in a %, much more useful than looking at a battery icon. :D

Good for the percentage on the battery icon indicator. Maybe then they can remove the annoying 10% remaining popup that interrupts me while I am trying to work...

Percentage has been included since at least 2.2.1, I use it all the time since the bar is so useless. Just press the battery bar and it comes up.

Michael73
Apr 17, 2009, 02:17 PM
Looks like this is going to be a nice summer for those with previous gen iPhones and those of us who have held out and will be getting the new hardware this summer. Everyone's a winner! At least everyone with an iPhone that is :D

MXChristian11
Apr 17, 2009, 02:17 PM
Can somebody please tell me to how to get the "notifications" and "carrier" settings in the settings app. I am updated to the current beta 3.

Anyone else have this on their's, or do you have to tweek the file kinda like how we had to do for tethering/mms, etc. in the first builds?

darko00
Apr 17, 2009, 02:18 PM
You Tube app has been altered in the new 3.0... Now you can sign in to your account, make playlists, view subscriptions, and my personal favorite... you can view comments of the videos you watch afterwards. Before, after you finish watching the video it just gave you some more info on it and related videos. Now there are two tabs, one for info and other one for related videos. Its very cool!

Goona
Apr 17, 2009, 02:20 PM
And there are still people comparing the iPhone with the rest...even without any hardware updates, Apple is so much above its competitors that it's just embarassing to talk about them... :rolleyes: GO APPLE!

You mean even the Palm Pre which is coming to save the mobile phone industry? :eek:

Insatiable
Apr 17, 2009, 02:21 PM
Does someone want to explain what scrubbing is? Sehr Danke!

Scrubbing is the act of live audio (or video) playback while rewinding or fast forwarding by dragging the cursor or in this case, your finger). The audio never stops, it just speeds up or slows down depending on the speed and position of the cursor.

InkMaster
Apr 17, 2009, 02:27 PM
Why is this being reported now? Most of these things were there since the first public build...

Paix247
Apr 17, 2009, 02:32 PM
Percentage has been included since at least 2.2.1, I use it all the time since the bar is so useless. Just press the battery bar and it comes up.

What? :eek:

Zincous
Apr 17, 2009, 02:33 PM
Percentage has been included since at least 2.2.1, I use it all the time since the bar is so useless. Just press the battery bar and it comes up.

I know that's how it's done for jaibroken. But is that available for non jailbroken?

Because it doesn't seem to work, and I can find a setting for it.

TGFits
Apr 17, 2009, 02:45 PM
I know that's how it's done for jaibroken. But is that available for non jailbroken?

Because it doesn't seem to work, and I can find a setting for it.

:D My phone used to be jailbroke. After I restored it to legit Apple, the battery % still was working. I had to re-jailbreak it, dis-able the batter percentage in Big Boss then restore. I can no longer display percentage.

I also have the latest beta 3 software and cannot find the setting to enable battery percentage. I have seen screeenshots (settings/general/usage) showing a battery percentage slider. I don't have this in my (setting/general/usage) settings.

Anyone know how to enable this in the new beta?

BRLawyer
Apr 17, 2009, 02:47 PM
You mean even the Palm Pre which is coming to save the mobile phone industry? :eek:

You mean "trying to save Palm"? Because they were pretty close to bankruptcy before this vaporphone came (came?) out. The Pre is a living joke, just as the Zune...all of them deemed Apple "killers", by the way.

ipoppy
Apr 17, 2009, 02:48 PM
Percentage has been included since at least 2.2.1, I use it all the time since the bar is so useless. Just press the battery bar and it comes up.

I was keep doing this for last 30 min; I think I have left hole in there now:eek:
Honestly, I don't see any option to active it.

TheSpaz
Apr 17, 2009, 02:50 PM
I know that's how it's done for jaibroken. But is that available for non jailbroken?

Because it doesn't seem to work, and I can find a setting for it.

You have to modify com.apple.springboard.plist and add the string SBShowBatteryPercentage with a boolean of yes or something. It's very easy to do. I haven't done it in a long time though.

Edit: I found this. This adds a toggle switch in your usage section. I guess this is where BoyGeniusReport got this from.

Enable Battery Percentage
1. SSH into your iphone
2. Go to /System/Library/CoreServices/Springboard.app/
3. Download the file M68AP.plist
4. Open the file using a text editor or a plist editor
5. Add a Boolean value under the capabilities dictionary
6. Boolean Key = gas-gauge-battery / Boolean Value = true
7. Save and upload the file to the same directory that it was originally in
8. Go onto the iPhone and respring
9. Now go to the application
Settings -> General -> Usage and there will be a Battery Percentage toggle and you can use it to enable battery percentage next to battery icon in top-right corner.

I can't wait to see AppStore apps that add this (just like emoji).... Hehe.

Zincous
Apr 17, 2009, 02:51 PM
:D My phone used to be jailbroke. After I restored it to legit Apple, the battery % still was working. I had to re-jailbreak it, dis-able the batter percentage in Big Boss then restore. I can no longer display percentage.

I also have the latest beta 3 software and cannot find the setting to enable battery percentage. I have seen screeenshots (settings/general/usage) showing a battery percentage slider. I don't have this in my (setting/general/usage) settings.

Anyone know how to enable this in the new beta?

Yes this is exactly what I have done. And it gets left over.

I think these people saying "percentage is on 3.0" are just jailbroken people with the percentage being left over and they don't understand that's what happened. Or editing something to make it work.

But until I am told a way to switch a setting and get it working, I won't believe it. (and I'd be glad to be wrong)

G4R2
Apr 17, 2009, 02:52 PM
I'm glad to see increased use of data detectors in this version of the OS. With all the computing power available today I would have expected a greater capability to recognize and process data from today's computers. In many respects, operating systems today while technically more advanced aren't much smarter than they were almost 25 years ago when they began to emerge in the mainstream. The Newton promisingly possessed some of these abilities. It was also disappointing that many of the advances that were expected to emerge from objected oriented OS's failed to do so. Operating systems need a bump in IQ and it makes sense that portable devices should lead the way in this area.

djdole
Apr 17, 2009, 02:54 PM
Crap form factor, no comparable app store, crap OS, and a stylus as well. Let's not leave that out.

To be fair, if responsiveness is a determining item in the crap-factor of a phone's OS then the iPhone's OS gets closer to crap with each update.
Especially lately. My iPhone has been VERY laggy lately. Even AFTER soft resetting & hard resetting.

SOME of the problems I've experienced:
- Calendar & SMS have been often laggy.
- Haven't had a day in the past year & a half when the keyboard wasn't lagging during at least half of it's use.
- Screen unresponsive/3+second lag at passcode screen
- Safari, notes, app-store, crash after being unresponsive (daily occurrence)
- If the wifi radio has trouble connecting, the whole phone lags/hangs.
- Often unresponsive sleep-button (at which point frustration sets in and pressing it multiple times seems to 'buffer' the button-presses. This in tern causes the phone to quickly flash between 'slide screen' & sleep-mode after it 'catches up'. (When I'm not frustrated with it, this can kinda be interesting...to put it down and watch it act almost like a strobe-light while sitting there on the desk.)
- The most annoying one? At least twice in the past year the phone crashed DURING a call. The call will suddenly go silent, and then I look at the screen and it's rebooting with the Apple logo displayed like it's saying "I'm :apple:. I crash. Tee hee! Stop paying attention to your call and pay attention to ME!".:mad:

I'm just saying, when it occasionally works I love it, but saying other phone OS's are crappy isn't saying much when our OS is getting a bit bloated. :-\
If this is the 'Jesus-Phone' then mine is in a constant state of crucifixion & faux/semi resurrection.



(NOTE: Never jail-broken, never hacked, Just 100% pure apple OS.)

Ron21
Apr 17, 2009, 02:54 PM
Can somebody please tell me to how to get the "notifications" and "carrier" settings in the settings app. I am updated to the current beta 3.

Anyone else have this on their's, or do you have to tweek the file kinda like how we had to do for tethering/mms, etc. in the first builds?

I don't have those menus either. Does anyone know how to enable them? Also how do you enable the battery percentage??

mikejd1
Apr 17, 2009, 02:58 PM
To be fair, if responsiveness is a determining item in the crap-factor of a phone's OS then the iPhone's OS gets closer to crap with each update.
Especially lately. My iPhone has been VERY laggy lately. Even AFTER soft resetting & hard resetting.

SOME of the problems I've experienced:
- Calendar & SMS have been often laggy.
- Haven't had a day in the past year & a half when the keyboard wasn't lagging during at least half of it's use.
- Screen unresponsive/3+second lag at passcode screen
- Safari, notes, app-store, crash after being unresponsive (daily occurrence)
- If the wifi radio has trouble connecting, the whole phone lags/hangs.
- Often unresponsive sleep-button (at which point frustration sets in and pressing it multiple times seems to 'buffer' the button-presses. This in tern causes the phone to quickly flash between 'slide screen' & sleep-mode after it 'catches up'. (When I'm not frustrated with it, this can kinda be interesting...to put it down and watch it act almost like a strobe-light while sitting there on the desk.)
- The most annoying one? At least twice in the past year the phone crashed DURING a call. The call will suddenly go silent, and then I look at the screen and it's rebooting with the Apple logo displayed like it's saying "I'm :apple:. I crash. Tee hee! Stop paying attention to your call and pay attention to ME!".:mad:

I'm just saying, when it occasionally works I love it, but saying other phone OS's are crappy isn't saying much when our OS is getting a bit bloated. :-\
If this is the 'Jesus-Phone' then mine is in a constant state of crucifixion & faux/semi resurrection.



(NOTE: Never jail-broken, never hacked, Just 100% pure apple OS.)


Agreed with the lag in almost everything with the keyboard, and especially notes. Opening notes, then clicking add takes at least 4 - 5 clicks just to get a new note to open. A bit frustrating

Zincous
Apr 17, 2009, 03:01 PM
You have to modify com.apple.springboard.plist and add the string SBShowBatteryPercentage with a boolean of yes or something. It's very easy to do. I haven't done it in a long time though.

Edit: I found this. This adds a toggle switch in your usage section. I guess this is where BoyGeniusReport got this from.

Enable Battery Percentage
1. SSH into your iphone
2. Go to /System/Library/CoreServices/Springboard.app/
3. Download the file M68AP.plist
4. Open the file using a text editor or a plist editor
5. Add a Boolean value under the capabilities dictionary
6. Boolean Key = gas-gauge-battery / Boolean Value = true
7. Save and upload the file to the same directory that it was originally in
8. Go onto the iPhone and respring
9. Now go to the application
Settings -> General -> Usage and there will be a Battery Percentage toggle and you can use it to enable battery percentage next to battery icon in top-right corner.

I can't wait to see AppStore apps that add this (just like emoji).... Hehe.

Ok thank you. So you have to edit stuff. It's not available for people who just download the beta build 3. That will answer a lot of peoples questions.

TGFits
Apr 17, 2009, 03:02 PM
Yes this is exactly what I have done. And it gets left over.

I think these people saying "percentage is on 3.0" are just jailbroken people with the percentage being left over and they don't understand that's what happened. Or editing something to make it work.

But until I am told a way to switch a setting and get it working, I won't believe it. (and I'd be glad to be wrong)


Check out this link and screenshot. Looks like enable battery percentage is in 3.0 beta somewhere, just not active for us yet!:D

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/07/exclusive-apple-iphone-30-screenshots-leak-out/

W1LLk
Apr 17, 2009, 03:02 PM
You mean even the Palm Pre which is coming to save the mobile phone industry? :eek:

Or that God aweful Storm they admitted to an Epic Fail on the first go 'round?

Zincous
Apr 17, 2009, 03:07 PM
Check out this link and screenshot. Looks like enable battery percentage is in 3.0 beta somewhere, just not active for us yet!:D

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/07/exclusive-apple-iphone-30-screenshots-leak-out/

Yes that looks good. Glad I was proven wrong. Hope these are in the next build :D

StuBeck
Apr 17, 2009, 03:10 PM
:D My phone used to be jailbroke. After I restored it to legit Apple, the battery % still was working. I had to re-jailbreak it, dis-able the batter percentage in Big Boss then restore. I can no longer display percentage.

I also have the latest beta 3 software and cannot find the setting to enable battery percentage. I have seen screeenshots (settings/general/usage) showing a battery percentage slider. I don't have this in my (setting/general/usage) settings.

Anyone know how to enable this in the new beta?

Oh, maybe thats it. I was jailbroken, then restored. I've been told that "wipes it" but I guess it doesn't actually.

h.21
Apr 17, 2009, 03:14 PM
This is the most inaccurate, poorly researched piece of garbage I have ever seen on this site. Over 50% of the features listed as new in Beta 3 were there since the 1st beta.


edit:

To be fair, if responsiveness is a determining item in the crap-factor of a phone's OS then the iPhone's OS gets closer to crap with each update.
Especially lately. My iPhone has been VERY laggy lately. Even AFTER soft resetting & hard resetting.

SOME of the problems I've experienced:
- Calendar & SMS have been often laggy.
- Haven't had a day in the past year & a half when the keyboard wasn't lagging during at least half of it's use.
- Screen unresponsive/3+second lag at passcode screen
- Safari, notes, app-store, crash after being unresponsive (daily occurrence)
- If the wifi radio has trouble connecting, the whole phone lags/hangs.
- Often unresponsive sleep-button (at which point frustration sets in and pressing it multiple times seems to 'buffer' the button-presses. This in tern causes the phone to quickly flash between 'slide screen' & sleep-mode after it 'catches up'. (When I'm not frustrated with it, this can kinda be interesting...to put it down and watch it act almost like a strobe-light while sitting there on the desk.)
- The most annoying one? At least twice in the past year the phone crashed DURING a call. The call will suddenly go silent, and then I look at the screen and it's rebooting with the Apple logo displayed like it's saying "I'm :apple:. I crash. Tee hee! Stop paying attention to your call and pay attention to ME!".:mad:

I'm just saying, when it occasionally works I love it, but saying other phone OS's are crappy isn't saying much when our OS is getting a bit bloated. :-\
If this is the 'Jesus-Phone' then mine is in a constant state of crucifixion & faux/semi resurrection.



(NOTE: Never jail-broken, never hacked, Just 100% pure apple OS.)

Let me respectfully ask, what the hell is wrong with you? Do you remember agreeing to an NDA that said you wouldn't spread non-publicly available information? Do you realize that is exactly what you are doing?

Let me ask you another question. Do you enjoy lawsuits?

People like this are what is going to put an end to the prerelease software parade from Apple. Why don't you go join ADC and leak 10A314 to the torrent sites, too?

ptsube
Apr 17, 2009, 03:19 PM
The scrubbing was in beta 2, and the variable speed enhancement was in beta 1.

twoodcc
Apr 17, 2009, 03:23 PM
nice. can't wait for OS 3.0, and the new iphone of course

dongmin
Apr 17, 2009, 03:32 PM
I like the close all windows in Safari... :)
I'd love to see Apple implement some sort of scripting to the iPhone, as in multi-touch gesture-based scripting.

I imagine how cool it would be if you could just draw an A on your screen and the phone automatically dials Andy (or whomever you designate). Or you draw an R and the iphone automatically launches Yelp and calls up the 25 nearest restaurants.

TheSpaz
Apr 17, 2009, 03:33 PM
Check out this link and screenshot. Looks like enable battery percentage is in 3.0 beta somewhere, just not active for us yet!:D

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/07/exclusive-apple-iphone-30-screenshots-leak-out/

Nope... BoyGeniusReport just enabled the hack that I posted a few posts up. Go ahead and check it out. It's not available as an option on a stock 3.0 (even beta 3)

bizzaregood
Apr 17, 2009, 03:37 PM
You can copy the answer from the calculator, its not really new, but i didnt think about it untill i did it the other day

gmanrique
Apr 17, 2009, 03:41 PM
I like my iPhone but unfortunately it does remind me of a PC and it is getting worst with every new upgrade. It has to be re-booted once every 2 weeks or so.

One annoying thing you forgot to mention is when the cell phone stops working. You don't realize that until either you try to make a call or somebody tells you "I just called you and you did not answer your phone". For some reason, everything works (with its laggyness) except the phone. The phone will indicate a crapy signal, even though you know that it is in a good area. Reboot, and voila, full strength, missed calls messages will magically pop-up, etc. There is no BSOD, but certainly the characteristics remind me of a certain product.

Lets hope the Pre will push Apple to improve the iPhone because I agree, there is no competition.

BTW, even if the Pre has not been launched yet, at this point calling it Vaporware is just naive. I am not saying it will succeed or not, or kill the iPhone. But it is a real product.

To be fair, if responsiveness is a determining item in the crap-factor of a phone's OS then the iPhone's OS gets closer to crap with each update.
Especially lately. My iPhone has been VERY laggy lately. Even AFTER soft resetting & hard resetting.

SOME of the problems I've experienced:
- Calendar & SMS have been often laggy.
- Haven't had a day in the past year & a half when the keyboard wasn't lagging during at least half of it's use.
- Screen unresponsive/3+second lag at passcode screen
- Safari, notes, app-store, crash after being unresponsive (daily occurrence)
- If the wifi radio has trouble connecting, the whole phone lags/hangs.
- Often unresponsive sleep-button (at which point frustration sets in and pressing it multiple times seems to 'buffer' the button-presses. This in tern causes the phone to quickly flash between 'slide screen' & sleep-mode after it 'catches up'. (When I'm not frustrated with it, this can kinda be interesting...to put it down and watch it act almost like a strobe-light while sitting there on the desk.)
- The most annoying one? At least twice in the past year the phone crashed DURING a call. The call will suddenly go silent, and then I look at the screen and it's rebooting with the Apple logo displayed like it's saying "I'm :apple:. I crash. Tee hee! Stop paying attention to your call and pay attention to ME!".:mad:

I'm just saying, when it occasionally works I love it, but saying other phone OS's are crappy isn't saying much when our OS is getting a bit bloated. :-\
If this is the 'Jesus-Phone' then mine is in a constant state of crucifixion & faux/semi resurrection.



(NOTE: Never jail-broken, never hacked, Just 100% pure apple OS.)

Goona
Apr 17, 2009, 03:50 PM
Why don't I experience any of those problems with my phone?

trip1ex
Apr 17, 2009, 03:51 PM
They need a 30 second skip for podcasts and an 8 second backward button like Tivo on all iPods.

I often want to skip past stuff in podcasts.

michael.lauden
Apr 17, 2009, 03:54 PM
what are the negative ratings for? probably from iPod touch users who don't want to pay 10$?

DELLsFan
Apr 17, 2009, 03:54 PM
Can't wait, this looks great, the iphone will finally be able to do the things my pocket pc has done for years!

People still have Pocket PCs?? :eek:

Jamie0003
Apr 17, 2009, 03:55 PM
I noticed at the top in those pics....is it just me or does it say vodaphone and 3? (2 other carriers)

EDIT: And I am so looking forward to the new iphone OS... I wonder what other new features will pop up?

Niiro13
Apr 17, 2009, 03:59 PM
So does push work for GMail?

Thanks.

That's up to Gmail.

duky
Apr 17, 2009, 04:12 PM
Why don't I experience any of those problems with my phone?

Yeah me neither. Sometimes I think it's the apps people install, because I can' think of any other difference between mine and their phones. I do get the keyboard lag once in a while but I've certainly never seen it drop a call and restart the phone the way this person is describing. Also, I think people don't restart their phones often/ever--just like computers, it needs to be restarted once in a while--something many people don't think about. Now if we were talking about 3.0 beta 1--theeeen I'd say I saw a lot of these such problems..

OddyOh
Apr 17, 2009, 04:17 PM
Can't wait...now I won't have to run my Automator/Doug's iTunes script to convert my podcasts to Audiobooks anymore. Two thumbs up! :)

Jamie0003
Apr 17, 2009, 04:18 PM
Yeah me neither. Sometimes I think it's the apps people install, because I can' think of any other difference between mine and their phones. I do get the keyboard lag once in a while but I've certainly never seen it drop a call and restart the phone the way this person is describing. Also, I think people don't restart their phones often/ever--just like computers, it needs to be restarted once in a while--something many people don't think about. Now if we were talking about 3.0 beta 1--theeeen I'd say I saw a lot of these such problems..

Ever since I got my iphone in october, Iv'e never had to reboot it once....it might be because iv'e only used up 1/4 of my memory on it though.

dwd3885
Apr 17, 2009, 04:22 PM
I can't wait for this update.

I think the 3.0 software will be just as good as 2.0

Nitro1
Apr 17, 2009, 04:30 PM
So how do you activate the battery % indicator. I have the new beta and i do not see a way to get the % instead of the standard.

jholzner
Apr 17, 2009, 04:47 PM
What about the things the iphone can do that your pocket pc cant?

Exactly! I get so sick of that argument. My friends crap phone can MMS. Sure, I'd like to have that now...but my phone can run 25,000 apps.

Skika
Apr 17, 2009, 05:00 PM
Huh i'm still on 1.1.4 :o


Cant upgrade because i would loose my guarantee :(

i'm satisfied though, no issues that i would notice:o

goingblue
Apr 17, 2009, 05:02 PM
I really like the idea of the battery life being given in a %, much more useful than looking at a battery icon. :D

I'm running the latest beta. Anyone know how to turn this on? I do not see the option in USAGE.

Cheers - Rich

Stuart in Oz
Apr 17, 2009, 05:02 PM
The expanded data recognition is nice - that's one of the things that I've often felt a need for on my Touch.

Being able to move a phone number from a note straight into the phone book would be so nice.

Like someone said earlier, it seems like this release is really polishing up the feature set to a point where it's mature and fixed all those little niggles.

Lovely.

koobcamuk
Apr 17, 2009, 05:04 PM
Mine doesn't have this either :(

http://www.iphoneuserguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/apple3shots3.jpg

Nitro1
Apr 17, 2009, 05:08 PM
Mine doesn't have this either :(

http://www.iphoneuserguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/apple3shots3.jpg

I dont have this and i have the latest version of the beta version 3.

MatthewStorm
Apr 17, 2009, 05:11 PM
Can anybody tell me how to access the new settings, like battery percentage? I have the latest beta but can't find it anywhere...

- Battery percentage indicators. Allows users to view their remaining battery life as a percentage rather than just as an icon.

I also cannot find this anywhere.

- Push notifications preferences. Allows users to toggle whether they want to allow push notifications as sounds, alerts, and/or badges.

Likewise with this. Any suggestions or are people Photoshopping again? I think they have the battery % thing wrong. I believe that is left over from someone's phone who updated a jailbreaked iPhone.

koopa35
Apr 17, 2009, 05:24 PM
am i blind or am i not reading this right...

- Battery percentage indicators. Allows users to view their remaining battery life as a percentage rather than just as an icon.
- Push notifications preferences. Allows users to toggle whether they want to allow push notifications as sounds, alerts, and/or badges.

i dont see these options anywhere

MatthewStorm
Apr 17, 2009, 05:25 PM
am i blind or am i not reading this right...

- Battery percentage indicators. Allows users to view their remaining battery life as a percentage rather than just as an icon.
- Push notifications preferences. Allows users to toggle whether they want to allow push notifications as sounds, alerts, and/or badges.

i dont see these options anywhere

I do not think this is real. They might want to edit the first page.

depaulsunny
Apr 17, 2009, 05:28 PM
Ok I have been lazy to search the forums but I just noticed this option shown below.. Am I missing something?? Anyone know what it stands for??

swagi
Apr 17, 2009, 05:35 PM
why would anybody negatively rate this, all of those are all nice new features and tweaks.

Why did I rate this story negative?
Because the bloody iPhone is the nail in the coffin of my beloved Mac experience.
Because of the iPhone Apple Inc. was born and Apple COMPUTER Inc. was brought to the grave.
And the main reason is, because the iPhone crowd, that gathered here over the years, has made this place a very hostile and fanboyish environment. See the quoted messages below to know what I mean.

what, lol your pocket pc can sync to itunes and download podcasts? that's cool

And there are still people comparing the iPhone with the rest...even without any hardware updates, Apple is so much above its competitors that it's just embarassing to talk about them... :rolleyes: GO APPLE!

And Apple's poor competition continues to be slaughtered. I mean, the iPhone already beats any other phone in practically every single way. Poor companies are just being further kicked into the hole at this point.

There's no way this monopoly phone will ever descend from its eternal throne GO APPLE! Best phone ever, just keeps getting better, and Blackberries and other (now) junk just keep getting OWNED.

You mean "trying to save Palm"? Because they were pretty close to bankruptcy before this vaporphone came (came?) out. The Pre is a living joke, just as the Zune...all of them deemed Apple "killers", by the way.

koopa35
Apr 17, 2009, 05:41 PM
I do not think this is real. They might want to edit the first page.

you may be right..

Nitro1
Apr 17, 2009, 05:45 PM
If you dont like it dont read it. If you dont like mac then leave the forums and dont come back. why would you rate it negative if you know you dont like the iPhone. The is just stupid. I mean that would be like me going online looking for a windows site and voting negative on everything a waste of time and stupid.

Get over it.

Nitro1
Apr 17, 2009, 05:46 PM
Why did I rate this story negative?
Because the bloody iPhone is the nail in the coffin of my beloved Mac experience.
Because of the iPhone Apple Inc. was born and Apple COMPUTER Inc. was brought to the grave.
And the main reason is, because the iPhone crowd, that gathered here over the years, has made this place a very hostile and fanboyish environment. See the quoted messages below to know what I mean.

If you dont like it dont read it. If you dont like mac then leave the forums and dont come back. why would you rate it negative if you know you dont like the iPhone. The is just stupid. I mean that would be like me going online looking for a windows site and voting negative on everything a waste of time and stupid.

Get over it.

joemama
Apr 17, 2009, 05:58 PM
Ok, now I'm just getting frustrated that my question keeps getting ignored. Maybe it's because no one knows, but ----

Will the Nike+ sensor be included in the new iphone?

Bueller?....Bueller?

bedifferent
Apr 17, 2009, 06:12 PM
Why did I rate this story negative?
Because the bloody iPhone is the nail in the coffin of my beloved Mac experience.
Because of the iPhone Apple Inc. was born and Apple COMPUTER Inc. was brought to the grave.
And the main reason is, because the iPhone crowd, that gathered here over the years, has made this place a very hostile and fanboyish environment. See the quoted messages below to know what I mean.

While I appreciate your perspective, I have personally read more comments from individuals who do not generally like Apple but joined online Apple related sites/blogs due to the iPhone. In fact, I have read more comments from individuals who rudely criticize Apple and bait people into unnecessary discourse.

swagi
Apr 17, 2009, 06:14 PM
If you dont like it dont read it. If you dont like mac then leave the forums and dont come back. why would you rate it negative if you know you dont like the iPhone. The is just stupid. I mean that would be like me going online looking for a windows site and voting negative on everything a waste of time and stupid.

Get over it.

Thanx for proving my point with a new post that leaves the impression of ignorance and hatred.

I love my Apple computers since nearly 10 years. I was welcome in a friendly and open community in that time. Good old ThinkSecret or Spymac were main news sources back then, but Macrumors was always a place with helpful hints. Hey, I needn't create a user account for several years, as a quick forum search was fully sufficient if I had questions about special Mac troubleshooting.

And I hate, that there are fewer balanced and informed discussions over here ever since iPhone developed wannabe-Mac-experts into fanboyish beasts.

And special explanation to you: I was curious to see, what new finds were in beta 3.0, as I'm in the market for a new phone. So I started reading this thread. But as the "iPhone roxorzzzzzz and all others are PWNed" started emerging, I found this thread to be little helpful for me - and therefore negative.

swagi
Apr 17, 2009, 06:17 PM
While I appreciate your perspective, I have personally read more comments from individuals who do not generally like Apple but joined online Apple related sites/blogs due to the iPhone. In fact, I have read more comments from individuals who rudely criticize Apple and bait people into unnecessary discourse.

Yeah, you're right. The typical "Dell offers the same for cheaper"-crowd, I know.

But though we share the same point of view we are getting more and more OT now :D:D:D

So any more new stuff found in 3.0 beta?

Nitro1
Apr 17, 2009, 06:19 PM
Thanx for proving my point with a new post that leaves the impression of ignorance and hatred.

I love my Apple computers since nearly 10 years. I was welcome in a friendly and open community in that time. Good old ThinkSecret or Spymac were main news sources back then, but Macrumors was always a place with helpful hints. Hey, I needn't create a user account for several years, as a quick forum search was fully sufficient if I had questions about special Mac troubleshooting.

And I hate, that there are fewer balanced and informed discussions over here ever since iPhone developed wannabe-Mac-experts into fanboyish beasts.

And special explanation to you: I was curious to see, what new finds were in beta 3.0, as I'm in the market for a new phone. So I started reading this thread. But as the "iPhone roxorzzzzzz and all others are PWNed" started emerging, I found this thread to be little helpful for me - and therefore negative.


My point is that you are negative due to the people who are dumb and insult you. But the info on the main site is a accurate comment and post. So you are not negative due to the info but due to what people say to you. This is a tough world you need to have a thicker skin. It is called hazing. anytime you are new to something it happens. people think they know more than you and try to cut you down. I don't do it and i don't think it is right but it happens.

TheWarIsNotOver
Apr 17, 2009, 06:31 PM
Brook with Bink's Saké, rofl xD ... somehow that was the only thing that caught my attention :P One Piece ;)

Legolover64
Apr 17, 2009, 06:36 PM
Battery percentage is nothing new to those of us with jailbroken phones...

Yet still, very nice features! I'm really excited to see this OS when it's released, and the phone that will probably go along with it :)

tjcampbell
Apr 17, 2009, 06:42 PM
I want the 3.0 software now!

xhambonex
Apr 17, 2009, 06:56 PM
I want the 3.0 software now!

Uh beta? The points I take from this is just all the little things that apple has passed up for some reason. Good to see it being included though. But these seem insignificant to things like video and spotlight which has always been my favorite mac OS feature.

I don't want to pay $10 for this maybe I'll just see if that beta is still available.


Swagi- you rate the thread off the posted info. No one posting really has any news past that it's mainly people just excited for the new OS. To learn more about the iphone OS 3.0 try appleinsider who posted the info or search for different threads on this topic. And no I don't think the iPhone pwns all other phones. But apple makes good products and it's tough to fight against the versatility of this device as a handheld computer video game handheld PDA and phone all in one with the apple commnity support.

rhett7660
Apr 17, 2009, 07:01 PM
Percentage has been included since at least 2.2.1, I use it all the time since the bar is so useless. Just press the battery bar and it comes up.

Is this a j/b feature? I have yet to see this on a regular iPhone...

jons
Apr 17, 2009, 09:40 PM
I think this will be like having a new phone...the one I should have had in the first place... but better late than never.

Beric
Apr 17, 2009, 09:41 PM
So will we see applications running in the background? Or do we not know yet?

Monty1
Apr 17, 2009, 10:43 PM
What is scrubbing?

wildmilne
Apr 17, 2009, 11:11 PM
Holy crap. I posted about the Safari window thing in the 100 New Features thread and nobody cared. Now all of a sudden it's some wild hidden feature? There's a TON of little features in 3.0... geeze.

Maybe if they could cache webpages it would be useful in safari...nothing like having to reopen every page with back or going back to the tab you were in..especially on a really slow network.

teohyc
Apr 17, 2009, 11:24 PM
Please make those long song/podcast titles scroll like the old iPods.

crisss1205
Apr 17, 2009, 11:32 PM
What would be cool is Photo Booth effects in the camera application.
(Is there something like that in the app store?)

bedifferent
Apr 17, 2009, 11:40 PM
My point is that you are negative due to the people who are dumb and insult you. But the info on the main site is a accurate comment and post. So you are not negative due to the info but due to what people say to you. This is a tough world you need to have a thicker skin. It is called hazing. anytime you are new to something it happens. people think they know more than you and try to cut you down. I don't do it and i don't think it is right but it happens.

I do not agree with this statement at all. It is no secret that the anonymity of the internet has perpetuated increased indecency and disrespect amongst peer to peer conversation and discourse (most psychologists will agree on that statement). Human decency and respect have taken a backseat to increased hostility, uncontrolled aggression and misguided anger (perhaps as a counter mechanism to daily negative peer to peer/co-worker interaction). Common courtesy and consideration [most] humans learn as juveniles is rapidly lost and behavior that is not normally exhibited towards others dominates internet communication. Behaviors towards others not exhibited and/or condoned in public are blithely accepted in the online "culture". Reckless disregard for others has recently manifested itself through the increased number of teenage suicides attributed to the indecency from those who utilize the internet to further antagonize their peers(s).

Stating that "hazing" is a [accepted] form of internet communication and the general internet community requires "thicker skin" for "survival" demonstrates an inherit desire in dominating others. Online communication is rapidly becoming the premier form of communication in social and industrial related human activity. As such universally accepted respect and courtesy in peer to peer dialog is greatly lacking.

If you wouldn't state something written to another individuals face, don't state it at all.

christ3d
Apr 18, 2009, 12:00 AM
what i want is a hardware switch next to the volume rocker and silencer that will put the iphone into low power mode, in the settings you would get to define what "low power" means but generally it would mean that the wifi, bluetooth, 3G and gps are all turned off. it could also turn off mail fetching, dim the screen whatever.

koopa35
Apr 18, 2009, 12:08 AM
To enable push notification settings you will have to install an app that supports push notification.

makes sense now.. but what about battery meter

QuarterSwede
Apr 18, 2009, 12:12 AM
Is this a j/b feature? I have yet to see this on a regular iPhone...
Yes.

puercaeli
Apr 18, 2009, 12:17 AM
Is long song title still not scrolling?
and also
what about using playlist as alarm(I guess this will be possible through third party now that iTunes library is an API...)

I really like to know..

Nitro1
Apr 18, 2009, 12:28 AM
I do not agree with this statement at all. It is no secret that the anonymity of the internet has perpetuated increased indecency and disrespect amongst peer to peer conversation and discourse (most psychologists will agree on that statement). Human decency and respect have taken a backseat to increased hostility, uncontrolled aggression and misguided anger (perhaps as a counter mechanism to daily negative peer to peer/co-worker interaction). Common courtesy and consideration [most] humans learn as juveniles is rapidly lost and behavior that is not normally exhibited towards others dominates internet communication. Behaviors towards others not exhibited and/or condoned in public are blithely accepted in the online "culture". Reckless disregard for others has recently manifested itself through the increased number of teenage suicides attributed to the indecency from those who utilize the internet to further antagonize their peers(s).

Stating that "hazing" is a [accepted] form of internet communication and the general internet community requires "thicker skin" for "survival" demonstrates an inherit desire in dominating others. Online communication is rapidly becoming the premier form of communication in social and industrial related human activity. As such universally accepted respect and courtesy in peer to peer dialog is greatly lacking.

If you wouldn't state something written to another individuals face, don't state it at all.

Ok first off, if i want to be dominating i could be. I am pearly telling you that people do this. I was the blunt on many jokes all my life and still am, the difference between when i was younger and now is that i learned to deal with it i grew a thicker skin. I mean really. And you talk about not saying things to someone's face. As i recall i said that in the very first post. If you don't like it don't read it or respond to it. All you are doing is making people think that the internet and specifically this site is a bad place for information. I understand what you are saying but you really need to either lighten up or become a "thicker person".

Micha
Apr 18, 2009, 12:39 AM
I wanted to post about the article, but looking at the level of the discussion, I won't bother....

ricosuave
Apr 18, 2009, 12:43 AM
Ok, now I'm just getting frustrated that my question keeps getting ignored. Maybe it's because no one knows, but ----

Will the Nike+ sensor be included in the new iphone?

Bueller?....Bueller?

Hi Joe,

I'm quite interested in this as well. But as far as I know, it is not a software add-on with the 3.0

I read some where that the nike+ chip uses the FM frequency and not bluetooth to the iPod Touch. I think the iPhone has this chip as well.

So it is my understanding that it is a Nike Corporation limitation and not Apple's.

swagi
Apr 18, 2009, 03:30 AM
Swagi- you rate the thread off the posted info. No one posting really has any news past that it's mainly people just excited for the new OS. To learn more about the iphone OS 3.0 try appleinsider who posted the info or search for different threads on this topic. And no I don't think the iPhone pwns all other phones. But apple makes good products and it's tough to fight against the versatility of this device as a handheld computer video game handheld PDA and phone all in one with the apple commnity support.

First of all I could have also voted negative, as I think this is no news at all. Most of the features in 3.0 should've been in version 1.0 if you really think about it.

Second, and that was my main point, I view not only the title story but the entire thread. If you argue that way, there is basically no title story on MR that deserves a negative rating at all. Thanks for the reference to AI, been there, done that.

Spymac in it's great days (that were extremely short btw) hat a nice feature: They had a Mac-related news tracker on all Mac-related websites and consolidated the news.

With the death of Spymac as it was, MR became my first place, as here also Arn made a very good job at consolidating news. In the pre-iPhone-phase there were also some very informed posters, that really contributed to the story by posting new screenshots or mentioning new other stuff.

iPhone related stories OTOH so quickly become a "All hail to the Jesus-Phone"-Threads, that it's just purely annoying - and therefore negative. And really, come on, you have scrubbing on audio tracks and finally a blank page cached when you close Safari. Now if that isn't revolutionary progress. /irony

Manic Mouse
Apr 18, 2009, 05:22 AM
First of all I could have also voted negative, as I think this is no news at all. Most of the features in 3.0 should've been in version 1.0 if you really think about it.

What a stupid point. The fact these new features are being added is a good thing, end of. I could say that about ANY update to ANYTHING and vote negative.

Balty
Apr 18, 2009, 06:53 AM
The fact these new features are being added is a good thing, end of.

It's good that the features are being added, yes. :D

But it's bad that it's taken soo long. Just think about it. For example: could Apple have implemented Copy & Paste earlier; YES! Notes sync? MMS (not that I use it)?, A2DP (also not that I use it)? Bluetooth/USB Tethering? You get the picture.

:apple: just wants something new to have at their next release... :rolleyes:

The one thing I'm still waiting for is OBEX file transfers (to any phone/computer).

MrCrowbar
Apr 18, 2009, 07:32 AM
This thread is weird, no one's being constructive.

All those feature are awesome in my opinion. All little things that make everything so much easier.

To the people saying these feature should have been implemented from the start: Implementing new functions that don't terribly slow down the device, eat up the battery and fit in design-wise is not that easy to do and required lots of work. You can't just make the prefect product, work on it for 5+ years and release it only when every feature is perfect.

The thing about the iPhone is that it's actually usable unlike some of the other big phones out there. I'm sure you heard form people "I'm still learning my blackberry".

Copy and paste is very well done in 3.0 (at least what I saw on the keynote) and not cluttering up the interface with an extra button. Considering Apple hasn't been selling phhones 2 years ago, the development is remarkable.

BRLawyer
Apr 18, 2009, 08:23 AM
Why did I rate this story negative?
Because the bloody iPhone is the nail in the coffin of my beloved Mac experience.
Because of the iPhone Apple Inc. was born and Apple COMPUTER Inc. was brought to the grave.
And the main reason is, because the iPhone crowd, that gathered here over the years, has made this place a very hostile and fanboyish environment. See the quoted messages below to know what I mean.

Man, I don't even have an iPhone for starters (my stupid carrier doesn't offer it)...

And please chill out, because my fanboyism goes (and will continue to go) ways before the Macintosh, with my first Apple //e clone in the eighties...but yeah, the iPhone is also awesome. All my friends are absolutely happy with it. :rolleyes:

TarpDK
Apr 18, 2009, 08:30 AM
Hey

I got this screenshot showing that the percentage icon is already activaded in the beta of 3.0 for the 2G iPhone:

http://gallery.me.com/arthur.tarp/100140/IMG_0046/web.jpg?ver=12400578140001

str1f3
Apr 18, 2009, 10:19 AM
First of all I could have also voted negative, as I think this is no news at all. Most of the features in 3.0 should've been in version 1.0 if you really think about it.

Second, and that was my main point, I view not only the title story but the entire thread. If you argue that way, there is basically no title story on MR that deserves a negative rating at all. Thanks for the reference to AI, been there, done that.

Spymac in it's great days (that were extremely short btw) hat a nice feature: They had a Mac-related news tracker on all Mac-related websites and consolidated the news.

With the death of Spymac as it was, MR became my first place, as here also Arn made a very good job at consolidating news. In the pre-iPhone-phase there were also some very informed posters, that really contributed to the story by posting new screenshots or mentioning new other stuff.

iPhone related stories OTOH so quickly become a "All hail to the Jesus-Phone"-Threads, that it's just purely annoying - and therefore negative. And really, come on, you have scrubbing on audio tracks and finally a blank page cached when you close Safari. Now if that isn't revolutionary progress. /irony


Would you rather have waited two years for the iPhone or have it the way it is now? You cannot have it both ways and I'm guessing most would choose the latter. I agree that this isn't big news but it's news regardless. I don't really think it's worthy of six pages of comments so far but maybe there are some that wished for data detectors more than video on the new iPhone.

pika2000
Apr 18, 2009, 10:25 AM
Couldn't you do that before? You can in 3.0 anyhow...
No, it's never possible before. Are you sure this option is available in 3.0?

bedifferent
Apr 18, 2009, 10:52 AM
Ok first off, if i want to be dominating i could be. I am pearly telling you that people do this. I was the blunt on many jokes all my life and still am, the difference between when i was younger and now is that i learned to deal with it i grew a thicker skin. I mean really. And you talk about not saying things to someone's face. As i recall i said that in the very first post. If you don't like it don't read it or respond to it. All you are doing is making people think that the internet and specifically this site is a bad place for information. I understand what you are saying but you really need to either lighten up or become a "thicker person".

No need to be rude. I wasn't referring to you. I simply made a statement regarding the internet in general. There is no need to take it personally, after all, you should have a "thicker skin", right? ;)

NetScheduler
Apr 18, 2009, 10:53 AM
Why did I rate this story negative?
Because the bloody iPhone is the nail in the coffin of my beloved Mac experience.
Because of the iPhone Apple Inc. was born and Apple COMPUTER Inc. was brought to the grave.
And the main reason is, because the iPhone crowd, that gathered here over the years, has made this place a very hostile and fanboyish environment. See the quoted messages below to know what I mean.

And you're surprised why????? Remember this one:

"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it’s worth–and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago.”

–Steve Jobs, 1996

One thing about it, he's doing EXACTLY what he said he would.

RogueWarrior65
Apr 18, 2009, 11:21 AM
Yay on Data Detectors but I still desperately need to quickly Google a phone number from the Recents list. Better yet, how about auto-googling the phone number as it's ringing?

joemama
Apr 18, 2009, 12:15 PM
Hi Joe,

I'm quite interested in this as well. But as far as I know, it is not a software add-on with the 3.0

I read some where that the nike+ chip uses the FM frequency and not bluetooth to the iPod Touch. I think the iPhone has this chip as well.

So it is my understanding that it is a Nike Corporation limitation and not Apple's.

It would be a hardware upgrade, but if the Touch has it then there is seemingly no reason that the iphone could not.

What I meant about software was that there should be some lingering code referencing the nike+ sensor.

cameronjpu
Apr 18, 2009, 12:23 PM
I don't understand why the process for deleting podcasts on the iPhone is as bad as the process used to be on OS 1 for deleting emails. Why can't we get an edit button on the podcasts to delete 10 at once rather than one at a time?

bizzaregood
Apr 18, 2009, 01:47 PM
- Battery percentage Not default. (This has to be Jailbroken or previously jailbroken)

Push notification Unsure. I do not have it. Someone stated we had to install an app with push, but I'm fairly certain apple would not have made it like that, also MAIL is push...

Carrier Settings Not default. I do not have it. I believe it has to be modified as tethering and mms.

MMS Not WORKING by default. Some have luck by updating carrier settings and having the right setup with ATT. I have gotten it to work but it does not last (for me) past a day.

Tethering WORKS if you mod the carrier settings (easily updated threw itunes)

Bluetooth WORKS AS DID AND MORE, the stereo bluetooth works.

Spotlight Is being improved and works as they said it would. Settings you can change.

Some New APIs that i really think would violate the NDA to talk about are working well.

Anything else i should check on ?

OneMike
Apr 18, 2009, 01:51 PM
Didn't see this mentioned before although maybe it was. Also not sure if it's just new to this beta but you can set the Home button to Camera

also when taking a picture in the bottom left if shows the icon of the last picture you took

TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 18, 2009, 01:57 PM
Didn't see this mentioned before although maybe it was. Also not sure if it's just new to this beta but you can set the Home button to Camera

also when taking a picture in the bottom left if shows the icon of the last picture you took

yep. We've known about that since beta1.

bizzaregood
Apr 18, 2009, 02:16 PM
I don't understand why the process for deleting podcasts on the iPhone is as bad as the process used to be on OS 1 for deleting emails. Why can't we get an edit button on the podcasts to delete 10 at once rather than one at a time?

No sorry not yet..... Hopefully Apple will see the light on this one.

jarjarblinks
Apr 18, 2009, 02:18 PM
Any idea if tethering works when the iPhone is sleeping (screen off)? My connection tends to die in that mode and I have to resort to putting the screen to "Never" under Auto Lock options.

Experiences?

chrismcdowell25
Apr 18, 2009, 02:40 PM
a bit off topic, but the excitment of this stuff had me go over to the att website to again check my upgrade eligability status and the date of 12/19/2009 is now gone! I wonder if this means I would be eligable for a subsidized purchase of the new iphone this summer??

Me hopes, what about the rest of you 3G owners?

Mine says Upgrade today. And if I hit the link it takes me to all of the phones they have available.

Sehnsucht
Apr 18, 2009, 02:49 PM
While I appreciate your perspective, I have personally read more comments from individuals who do not generally like Apple but joined online Apple related sites/blogs due to the iPhone. In fact, I have read more comments from individuals who rudely criticize Apple and bait people into unnecessary discourse.

What I really love is when I hear a comment from someone about how retarded Apple computers are and how Macs suck...and then I notice the person has an iPhone. :rolleyes:

bedifferent
Apr 18, 2009, 03:15 PM
What I really love is when I hear a comment from someone about how retarded Apple computers are and how Macs suck...and then I notice the person has an iPhone. :rolleyes:

Sometimes I notice comments posted on mobile devices from individuals disparaging Apple and in their signature they list owning an iPhone.

http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1239_i39m_an_idiot.gif

Porco
Apr 18, 2009, 03:25 PM
I am very pleased about the podcast navigation being improved, that bar is long enough for a 4 minute song, but it's pretty useless on a 2 hour podcast.

slapppy
Apr 18, 2009, 04:10 PM
I guess we won't have the full Internet experience yet then. Can't even view CNN, NYT, CBS even Mac centric sites that uses Flash.

MBAir
Apr 18, 2009, 05:13 PM
I'm not sure whether it's been mentioned before, but wmv files (as an email attachment) now have quicktime icon. Maybe 3.0 will play wmv files?

again, not sure if its official or mentioned before.

Cheers.

bobertoq
Apr 18, 2009, 08:53 PM
I guess we won't have the full Internet experience yet then. Can't even view CNN, NYT, CBS even Mac centric sites that uses Flash.chromeexperiments.com
you dont need flash to do anything. websites should start using javascript. everything on that website is javascript and javascript only. no flash whatsoever.

slapppy
Apr 18, 2009, 09:06 PM
chromeexperiments.com
you dont need flash to do anything. websites should start using javascript. everything on that website is javascript and javascript only. no flash whatsoever.

Right. Like Apple will suddenly convince them to drop Flash just for the iPhone. I don't thnk so. ;-)

bedifferent
Apr 18, 2009, 09:25 PM
chromeexperiments.com
you dont need flash to do anything. websites should start using javascript. everything on that website is javascript and javascript only. no flash whatsoever.

Question. I know Flash, HTML/5, CSS, I don't know javascript. However, in glancing over javascript, what is the difference between javascript and Actionscript 3? They seem similar.

Lightmensendme
Apr 18, 2009, 10:51 PM
One thing that I have noticed is that you now have the ability to edit contacts in the Phone app. It was annoying when you used the phone app, clicked a contact, and you weren't able to edit it. They have added aN 'edit' button so that you can edit your contacts outside of the Contacts App.

macguru212
Apr 19, 2009, 01:14 AM
I hope I'll be able to change that font in Notes.

Minimoose 360
Apr 19, 2009, 03:09 AM
I hope I'll be able to change that font in Notes.

I think I'm the only one who likes the Felt Marker font in Notes...

I like it so much that I downloaded it onto my MBP to use in my sticky notes lol

zephead
Apr 19, 2009, 04:17 AM
I think I'm the only one who likes the Felt Marker font in Notes...

I like it so much that I downloaded it onto my MBP to use in my sticky notes lol

Uhh... Unless I'm missing something, the Marker Felt font was already on my MacBook as far as I know. :confused:

jnc
Apr 19, 2009, 04:28 AM
I just wish when rotating in iPod mode, Cover Flow didn't exit you out of a playlist and default to "all Albums". What's wrong with a cover flow depicting only the album tracks in that playlist??

pubwvj
Apr 19, 2009, 08:00 AM
I'm not impressed, yet...

Apple needs to lift the limit on Apps and make organizing & navigating apps easier. There was something developed by a company back in the last millennia called folders or directories. Something like that...

Another thing we need is better data entry, copy, cut, paste, short cut data entry, etc. I should be able to enter *w@ and have it enter my email address where * is some special short cut key and then you type a sequence that triggers the entry. Old tech. Also on each type of field the right data keys should be available. This switching between keyboards is a hassle.

bit_bucket
Apr 19, 2009, 08:32 AM
Anyone know if any companies have released app's that use the Push Notification service? Kind of a pre release package to do traffic modeling with the potential dev traffic. I wanted to get an idea of how it works before comitting server resource and coding an app that uses it.

SFC Archer
Apr 19, 2009, 08:39 AM
Totally AMAZING...I already posted ALL of these finds and now MR thinks its important??? My 100 Features covers everyone of these items and they have been released through all 3 stages of the beta so far. MR...you should give your own posters credit before posting OLD NEWS, just cause they have pretty pictures!

Many of your regulars and I have listed, validated and tested at least 40+ new features of the 100 stated. Its alright fellow posters...at least I thanked you and gave credit where credit was due but I guess were just not newsworthy enough!:rolleyes:

Synthetickiller
Apr 19, 2009, 11:42 AM
chromeexperiments.com
you dont need flash to do anything. websites should start using javascript. everything on that website is javascript and javascript only. no flash whatsoever.

Java is slow.

So many things are done with flash now and since a massive majority isn't using iphone for thier internet experiences, no way in hell that java will replace flash. Long live flash!

TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 19, 2009, 12:29 PM
Java is slow.

So many things are done with flash now and since a massive majority isn't using iphone for thier internet experiences, no way in hell that java will replace flash. Long live flash!

Nobody said anything about java. Javascript and Java are two completely different programming languages that have next to nothing to do with each other. You shouldn't say anything if you don't know what you're talking about.

cameronjpu
Apr 19, 2009, 01:01 PM
Java is slow.

So many things are done with flash now and since a massive majority isn't using iphone for thier internet experiences, no way in hell that java will replace flash. Long live flash!

Yikes....:p

djellison
Apr 19, 2009, 01:43 PM
chromeexperiments.com
you dont need flash to do anything. websites should start using javascript. everything on that website is javascript and javascript only. no flash whatsoever.

Maybe, in 2 or 3 years, perhaps, some websites will transition to that.

But NOW, TODAY, with many many websites - Flash is required. Anyone pretending otherwise is delusional.

tgildred
Apr 19, 2009, 01:50 PM
Why did I rate this story negative?
Because the bloody iPhone is the nail in the coffin of my beloved Mac experience.
Because of the iPhone Apple Inc. was born and Apple COMPUTER Inc. was brought to the grave.
And the main reason is, because the iPhone crowd, that gathered here over the years, has made this place a very hostile and fanboyish environment. See the quoted messages below to know what I mean.

Those are hostile and fanboyish? I don't know, sounds like people voicing their opinions to me. Perhaps not altogether realistic, but this is MacRumors... some Apple bias is to be expected. If people are excited about the iPhone, and the iPhone brings people into the Apple--and perhaps, eventually, the Mac--fold, I think that's a ultimately a good thing. Just my opinion, take it as you will. My other opinion that over the years my Mac experience has consistently gotten better and better, including the post-Apple Computers, Inc. era.

dwsolberg
Apr 19, 2009, 02:17 PM
This is a side note, but every time I use Flash, my computer heats up, the fans spin like crazy, and everything else gets a little slower.

Someone (maybe the JavaScript people) could do a study of how much energy (and money) Flash wastes compared to a competing newish standard like JavaScript. I have to guess it would be a LOT. It would be a nice marketing ploy, too.

djellison
Apr 19, 2009, 02:36 PM
Someone (maybe the JavaScript people) could do a study of how much energy (and money) Flash wastes compared to a competing newish standard like JavaScript. I have to guess it would be a LOT. It would be a nice marketing ploy, too.

It's because the implimentation of Flash on OSX is, to be blunt, crap.

TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 19, 2009, 02:43 PM
It's because the implimentation of Flash on OSX is, to be blunt, crap.

Which, I'm sad to say, seems to be entirely Apple's fault, as they provide no support to Adobe for hardware acceleration of the technology, because Apple wants to get rid of flash with javascript and quicktime.

mikeinternet
Apr 19, 2009, 06:16 PM
You Tube app has been altered in the new 3.0... Now you can sign in to your account, make playlists, view subscriptions, and my personal favorite... you can view comments of the videos you watch afterwards. Before, after you finish watching the video it just gave you some more info on it and related videos. Now there are two tabs, one for info and other one for related videos. Its very cool!

I hope they can add badges when you have unwatched subscribed videos.

mikeinternet
Apr 19, 2009, 07:23 PM
I love the % battery indicator.

azajohns
Apr 19, 2009, 08:25 PM
Question: Does the scrubbing feature also work with video? I export my eyeTV recordings to iPhone and ad skipping is oh so painful. What I wouldn't give for a 30 second 'jump' button.

bizzaregood
Apr 19, 2009, 08:48 PM
Question: Does the scrubbing feature also work with video? I export my eyeTV recordings to iPhone and ad skipping is oh so painful. What I wouldn't give for a 30 second 'jump' button.

Alright... So it seems to work higher you go the faster (as with songs) lower the finer (as with songs) but it does not tell you what speed you are on, at least not for me, or not yet.

Hope i helped

bizzaregood
Apr 19, 2009, 08:50 PM
I hope they can add badges when you have unwatched subscribed videos.

This seems to be do able... some implementation of the push services

azajohns
Apr 19, 2009, 08:51 PM
Alright... So it seems to work higher you go the faster (as with songs) lower the finer (as with songs) but it does not tell you what speed you are on, at least not for me, or not yet.

Hope i helped

Well that sounds promising. :)

kironin
Apr 20, 2009, 09:50 AM
- Ability to close all open Safari windows. Previously there was no ability to close the last remaining Safari window, but a red "x" is now functional in the page navigation, allowing users to close the final window, replacing it with a blank page.

finally, I can stop having to create a new page just so I can close a page!

madog
Apr 21, 2009, 05:49 PM
To be fair, if responsiveness is a determining item in the crap-factor of a phone's OS then the iPhone's OS gets closer to crap with each update.
Especially lately. My iPhone has been VERY laggy lately. Even AFTER soft resetting & hard resetting.


Restore your iPhone through iTunes, and set it up as a new phone, as opposed to restoring from a backup. You'll lose settings, 3rd party app data, and will be starting from scratch (but with all your data still in iTunes such as your apps, music, etc). If you can stand losing some of that data, then I would highly suggest doing this to restore your phone to it's rightful place. It has an OS on it, just like any computer, and needs to be reinstalled every now and then depending on how you use it.

Excellerator
Apr 21, 2009, 06:33 PM
I haven't yet upgraded to the beta versions yet, but I wonder if at sometime Flash will be available. Adobe said they are working on adding it, and I noticed that in iPhone OS 2.2.1 (maybe even earlier) there is an option under Settings/Safari for Plug-Ins on or off. So hopefully sometime a plugin will be available even as a separate download. Hey, I can keep my fingers crossed.

branjosef
Apr 22, 2009, 02:51 AM
Yeah more useless features!!! How about an option to remove "Stocks" or "Contacts" or any other default app some people never use. How about letting us customize our experience with different dock options. Nope! We get the "Fed Ex" Ship your package app or "iLevel" so when you're on a job, you can whip out your $400 phone and level that wall. What's next...an american idol app (oh wait)... nevermind