That's exactly what I think they will do. When the iPad 3 comes out I would imagine the iPad 2 slots into the "budget" role (I use that term lightly). Perhaps an 8GB iPad 2 for $300 rather than a brand new form factor. If you had a Kindle for $200 in one hand or an 8GB iPad 2 for $100 more in the other hand, which would you choose?
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That's exactly what I think they will do. When the iPad 3 comes out I would imagine the iPad 2 slots into the "budget" role (I use that term lightly). Perhaps an 8GB iPad 2 for $300 rather than a brand new form factor. If you had a Kindle for $200 in one hand or an 8GB iPad 2 for $100 more in the other hand, which would you choose?
I don't know. You could have an iPod Touch beside a 7.85" iPad at the exact same price pretty easily. The products are quite different. iPods are for people who can't use phones yet (young).
If Apple could pull off a 7.85" iPad at $300, it could really suppress some of that Kindle Fire momentum quickly. You could have the current iPad 2 starting at $400 and the new Retina iPad at $500.
200 iPod Touch
300 7Pad
400 iPadBlur (iPad 2)
500 iPadSharp
It does seem a bit crowded for Apple, but just like I use an iPhone AND an iPad, teens and younger could easily find use for an iPod AND an iPad.
I'm starting to believe this rumor with the screen size and I don't have it all worked out, but these mock ups confirm what I suspect: the interface would still work pretty well at that size. Some apps would HAVE to adapt though. Even Apple's own Numbers and Pages might have to do some adjusting... though those are pretty good at zooming in and out for the on document widgets and are already adapted to the iPhone, so... I guess we'll see in a few months.
Android taught iOS users that bigger screens are better. Is that just with phones? Tablets need to have small screens.
Nonsense. If all someone wants is a book reader that can browse the web and play videos, then they still want to browse the web _fast_, they still want direct access to all the books and videos in their home, they still want to get books without having to pay through the nose (Amazon's big plan is to lose money on the devices and then rip you off when you buy content), and guess what, they want a device that can also fulfill their needs in the future when they figure out there is so much more than books and videos.
You are also in direct contradiction to the idiots who claim that Apple fans buy anything for any price as long as there is an Apple logo on it
You got that wrong. It's the screen size on an Android device that is automatically better. At least that's what they claim.
Meanwhile Apple sells whatever they can build
that's a pretty biased/unsubstantiated comment considering that much of Amazon's music and book prices are below Apple's.
Nonsense. If all someone wants is a book reader that can browse the web and play videos, then they still want to browse the web _fast_, they still want direct access to all the books and videos in their home, they still want to get books without having to pay through the nose (Amazon's big plan is to lose money on the devices and then rip you off when you buy content), and guess what, they want a device that can also fulfill their needs in the future when they figure out there is so much more than books and videos.
You are also in direct contradiction to the idiots who claim that Apple fans buy anything for any price as long as there is an Apple logo on it
^ Maybe I'm the only one, but to me all of these products are luxury goods. You can't make a practical argument for any of them if you already own a PC capable of... you know, browsing the web. If you love books and are on a budget, take your $200 to the used book store and see how much you get, read, and sell back to them. Or here's an idea: go to the Library.
There are a number of factors that are worth considering in the seven inch venue. 1) Apple has always targeted the educational domain -- hook them while they are young. A smaller reader sized device allows for a lightweight portability not accorded by the larger and potentially more vulnerable iPad particularly in an ElHi school or post secondary campus setting. 2) Apple has let the Touch languish while focusing on the iPhone and microcomputers hence there is a small "computing device" hole that the Android devices are now addressing -- consider, in particular, the Nook with its expandable 32GB memory. 3) There is a population that has used the Touch as a passable reader but given a larger format and relative costs, this population will likely migrate to a seven inch device particularly so when a larger library of Android apps are developed. Wait too long and Apple loses to this ever-expanding Andriod library and Apple's justification for a higher cost device loses credibility.
Eventually different sized iPads will happen.
I probably should say different iOS devices. I suspect that one of Apples goals will be a foldable device.
In any event I'm not sure why people would ever think that we will only have one iPad size. IOS is a runaway success with plenty of room for other devices.
I probably should say different iOS devices. I suspect that one of Apples goals will be a foldable device.
In any event I'm not sure why people would ever think that we will only have one iPad size. IOS is a runaway success with plenty of room for other devices.
Every creative professional I know that has an iPad loves it, it's potential, but has at some point expressed the same thing. A full size iPad for drawing and design would be completely awesome to use in the office, and invite more and more serious design & illusation apps, changing the way industries work.
Sure would be great to have a consumer/consumption model for the punters, and a big boy model for creative pros.
We have a Nook and an iPad here, and, maybe it's just me, but iBooks look significantly better than anything we bought on the Nook. I have used a Kindle a bit, and would have to say it's probably worse than our Nook as far as the scans.
So, my wife buys books with lots of pictures and diagrams on the iPad, and trash on the Nook. Sookie stack house? NOOK. Hawking's Grand Design, iPad. Did I pay more, sure. Did I get more? I think so.
My comment - nor the original posters - was about quality. The OP was implying that Amazon was overcharging on content.
And book scans will really only apply to current and past books. I'm pretty sure post publishers aren't scanning materials but using electronic versions.
Listen - I love how books look on my iPad. But for long reads - I don't like the iPad screen. Hurts my eyes. I much prefer long reads on my Kindle.
I'm just going to enjoy watching the many Apple fans who post again and again that Apple won't make a smaller tablet as Steve said so, gradually change their mind around (as per normal) if/when Apple does release a smaller model.
It's funny to watch it happen
It's funny to watch it happen
The Kindle Fire is selling well for one reason. It appeals to cheapskates because of the low price. There's nothing much else that can be said for it. Even if Apple were to sell a high-quality 7" tablet, it couldn't compete with Amazon at a $199 entry point. It would cost at least $100 more. Kindle Fire users are giving up practically everything else just to buy a low-priced tablet. They probably don't care about usability. Amazon has no interest in high-quality hardware. Just give consumers cheap hardware to move Amazon media content. That's Amazon's financial strategy.
I want a 60" iPad for my living room!
I'll hang it on the wall. And I'll get a telescopic foam finger to be able to use it while sitting on my couch.
I'll hang it on the wall. And I'll get a telescopic foam finger to be able to use it while sitting on my couch.
Hard to believe your post got downvoted on MR
The more screen real estate the better, if you can carry around a 7" iPad surely it can't be more difficult to carry a 10".
I like the size of my iPads, had the iPad1 and 2 since launch. I tried the Playbook for fun, but it wasn't fun, the smaller screen was only art of the reason of course
Apple has never been interested in competing with other devices price-wise.
They have always done what they thought was best; no 'cheaper versions'.
Then, Apple will convince you their device is the best, and that unless you buy an Apple device, your life will be incomplete.
So far, Apple has succeeded at it. And so far, it seems they are right most of the time.
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Samsung and others' failure is due to the too wide range of products
it doesn't make any sense to have a tablet smaller than the actual ipad
it doesn't make any sense to have a tablet smaller than the actual ipad
Hard to believe your post got downvoted on MR
The more screen real estate the better, if you can carry around a 7" iPad surely it can't be more difficult to carry a 10".
I like the size of my iPads, had the iPad1 and 2 since launch. I tried the Playbook for fun, but it wasn't fun, the smaller screen was only art of the reason of course
Well, girls want something they can fit in their purse. A smaller screen is not for everyone. I have no trouble carrying my iPad the way it is; for me, it has the perfect display size.
Small Screen iPad
Just phones and anything larger than 4.3/4.5 on a phone is toooooo big.
Tablets need two sizes 10 and a 7.
i won't buy the current iPad.
We have new MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mini and an 8-Core MacPro and 3 iPods in my house. No iPads. Want to know why? Too Big.
I want something that fits in a small backpack or my wife's purse.
NookColor or Kindle Fire size is ideal.
When there is an iPad with a 7" screen, sign me up.
When there is an iPhone with a 4" screen, sign me up.
Until then, I'll live with my Mac and iPod products.
But my phone is a Droid Razr and my tablet is a NookColor with CM7 installed.
Just phones and anything larger than 4.3/4.5 on a phone is toooooo big.
Tablets need two sizes 10 and a 7.
i won't buy the current iPad.
We have new MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mini and an 8-Core MacPro and 3 iPods in my house. No iPads. Want to know why? Too Big.
I want something that fits in a small backpack or my wife's purse.
NookColor or Kindle Fire size is ideal.
When there is an iPad with a 7" screen, sign me up.
When there is an iPhone with a 4" screen, sign me up.
Until then, I'll live with my Mac and iPod products.
But my phone is a Droid Razr and my tablet is a NookColor with CM7 installed.
Uhhh that doesn't really make any sense considering how cheap stuff is on Amazon vs Apple (oh yeh you did know that Apple charges more $$ for music, books, app's etc right?
) . I just got my GF a Kindle Fire, why? Well she liked it better then the iPad, iPad reminded her of just an big iPod Touch. The KF is more portable and she liked the size better to just kick back with and use. Fits right in her purse or bag(s) where the iPad would be too large.Plus we buy a lot of stuff from Amazon and have Prime, Prime gives you access to ton's of free stuff (including thousands of movies and tv shows). Nevermind that Prime isn't expensive and pays for itself quickly with the savings on shipping since you get free 2 day shipping.
If they come out with a smaller iPad, seems pointless to do 7.85", they should do a 7" to compete more against the others in that range, vs staying closer to the iPads 10" size. Like mentioned above, tablets should be spread at 7 or 10 inches.
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The kindle @ $100.00 from Amazon deals is the reason for their sales.
Something Apple should think about.
Something Apple should think about.