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Apple Being Sued Over Phone-Switching iMessage Issue
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While something like that would be a nice addition, it doesn't actually resolve the underlying issue (just works around it at best, and even then requires those who send you something to do it, which you can't really rely on fully).
What is the difference from being prevented to do either one?
no feature should be affected just because you change phones! not text, not calls or not data!
No, Apple needs to fix this for their current customers. It's the current customer who tries to send a message to a former customer, and it's the current customer who thinks the message has been delivered when it's not.
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What's not Apple's fault? The part where they keep on trying to send something as an iMessage to a number that no longer supports it? The part where they themselves chose to tie their iMessage functionality to regular (SMS/MMS) carrier messaging, thus essentially creating a path for these kinds of mixups? The very part that Apple controls, that's the part that's not Apple's fault?Pfft, that's crazy talk! No way is this not Apple's fault!
But you get what I'm saying. I can't fathom being mad at a company for not automatically rolling messages sent to their proprietary messaging platform over to another platform. This is totally a case where Apple made iMessage far too seamless for the masses. Everyone in my family, most of the people I work with, etc had no clue as to why some messages were green and some were blue. Even after explaining it and sending them Apple KB's on iMessage they often still seem oblivious.
This is a legit lawsuit. I recently switched to an Android device until iOS 8 is jailbroken so that I can purchase an iPhone 6 and I am missing text messages. People that I know have not paid attention when sending a message and it sends out as an iMessage. Apple is holding people by the balls and this issue is making it a huge headache for people to leave their mobile platform. If Apple's engineers can't find a solution to the problem then they need to change the way iMessage works. They need to make it so that iMessage needs to be activated with the sim card (in the background) once every few days. If the activation isn't done then they need to automatically REMOVE that phone number from their database for iMessages.
Since when does Apple have domain over your PHONE NUMBER, people? It doesn't matter if you are a former customer of Apple's or not. People cannot receive messages sent as TEXT, not as iMESSAGE - they are just forced to use the iMessage CLIENT to deliver the text. I have literally become dumber reading this thread.
How would that even be physically possible?
And yes, there are scenarios where a carrier (or former employer) keeps your number. You don't own the number; you just rent the use of the number.
This is similar to renting the use of electricity coming in from a power line or purchasing one of the stars in outer space.
Lol... than I guess only in the US you could win a retarded case like suing for the "swipe to unlock" feature...
Fanboys... smh. Lol
As I've stated I have this problem right now. I wanted a larger screen so I got a LG G2. I can send SMS no problem but the iPhone on the other end still sends the response as a iMessage so I never receive it. What have I tired? Well I logged out of iMessage on my old iPhone, iPad, and my Macs. Note: logged out on the iPhone before I switched the SIM card, and it was connect to WiFi. Still doesn't work. At some point they will start working, had a friend that I couldn't receive messages for over a week. I have two family members that I still cannot receive SMS from. So ya its the users fault.
Former employer aside, there are laws protecting the transfer of your number in the us
It cannot be held hostage and is freely transferable
You just have to keep the line active.
I'm usually one to defend Apple, but even the most non-cynic MUST at least question how a bug manages to survive for three years in one of the world's largest tech companies which only affects customers after they switch to Apples largest competitor mobile operating system...
Another comment that is just simply not true.
1) Since someone registered their phone number with Apple via iMessage based on all the fine print... Apple has domain to keep trying to send messages from other iMessage users.
2) Not true, the messages are sent as iMessage, not as a text message. If someone sends a TEXT message, it goes through the carrier, not through Apple. (Even with the iMessage app.)
3) No, any user can use another message client other than iMessage.
Next people are going to complain because they want their user@me.com or user@icloud.com email addresses to be able to work with gmail or yahoo mail.
It's such a weird bug, i'm surprised it hasn't got something to do with the carriers, I would have thought that it would have a fallback if there was not ''delivered'' message for the iMessage on the other end.
I wouldn't have thought of doing a deregister of an iPhone before getting rid either.
Lets hope this apple doesn't have to split up the services as it's great to have it split but it should be a simple solution for apple to just have a unsubscribe feature on a website and then some kind of switch once a carrier registers a change of contract.
Why isn't the sim card doing some kind of OS check on the number and forwarding. Surely apple an implement that for iOS devices to then be opt in only if the sim see iOS for that number...?
I wouldn't have thought of doing a deregister of an iPhone before getting rid either.
Lets hope this apple doesn't have to split up the services as it's great to have it split but it should be a simple solution for apple to just have a unsubscribe feature on a website and then some kind of switch once a carrier registers a change of contract.
Why isn't the sim card doing some kind of OS check on the number and forwarding. Surely apple an implement that for iOS devices to then be opt in only if the sim see iOS for that number...?
A work-around is that worked for me was have the person with the iPhone go into Settings - Messages - Send as SMS (enabled). Annoying to have all the people you talk to do this but it has worked for me.
You mean, Apple needs to fix this for their current iPhone-users sending messages to now former iPhone-users, which they actually never receive because, instead of sending them as good old text-messages, they're being sent as iMessages?
And to the people suggesting to just send text-messages in the first place: Wasn't one of the advantages of iMessage that the device magically sends the message through the proper channel? Well, apparently not.
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