Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple CEO Tim Cook Speaks Out Against Indiana's 'Religious Freedom' Law
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Exactly. The fact a woman doesn't have to climax to conceive and vice versa disproves the concept that intercourse is purely for procreation. Also, if it is sinful to waste sperm then surely it should be sinful to not conceive every time a woman ovulates. All comes back to Christians AFTER Jesus trying to link sexual desire to sin.
I don't get this view. Look at yourself. Have you ever been attracted to boys? No? And you've decided this is your choice and not who you happen to be? Try to imagine you grew up being attracted to boys. Would you try to fit in having lackluster relationships with the other sex, unhappy, but you made a choice to fit in or would you finally try to find happiness? The choice would be to deny who you are, not be who you are.
I'll acknowledge that experimentation may happen, but in the long run, you are who you are.
"I'm going to treat myself this week Dorris. Really indulge myself."
"What's that Ken? Going to get yourself one of those fancy new Apple Watches?"
"No, Dorris, this week I thought I'd treat myself to a bit of homosexuality."
I don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to grasp the concept that some people are simply not aroused by the opposite sex through no fault of their own.
It basically comes down to:
"Well, I don't feel any same sex attractions, so therefore it must be a choice for the people who do. And I'll use my religion as an excuse to hold onto my opinion that homosexuality is icky with as little public scrutiny as possible."
It's like despising the taste of cilantro and having other people tell you that you must have made the choice to dislike cilantro because they absolutely love it.
It basically comes down to:
"Well, I don't feel any same sex attractions, so therefore it must be a choice for the people who do. And I'll use my religion as an excuse to hold onto my opinion that homosexuality is icky with as little public scrutiny as possible."
It's like despising the taste of cilantro and having other people tell you that you must have made the choice to dislike cilantro because they absolutely love it.
You have it backwards. Man created God to attempt to explain things that it YET did not understand. Like "what make that boom noise", don't understand thunder, so let's make up God. there is no evidence that some mystical being created man with a specific purpose. We are just accidents of nature. Sorry to break the news. But your beliefs (which are more accurately described as superstitions) are obviously flawed and based on desert nomad superstitions from the Bronze Age, that likely were pounded into your head as a child and became inextricably mixed up with your "culture" and family and societal pressure to continue what is deemed as "normal". Time to move into modern times dude. Hence your backward and outdated views on homosexuality (which are just a part of the chemistry of the biological organisms called humans).
And why did so called all powerful God allow man to invent abortions, hysterectomies, vasectomies, the pill, etc if we were designed just to procreate by this alleged God being? So he's all powerful, but can't stop abortions or contraceptives or homosexuality-- poor dude. Sounds like this is a seriously flawed creator and not worthy of your worship, your money or your time.
Last edited:
Can you show me your evidence that there isn't a God? Might help everyone change their mind.
You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof would be on you. And If you're claiming that your imaginary friend is real, you better have some damn good evidence (and no, the bible isn't evidence).
----------
"Well, how did we all get here then?"
Or something tacky of that nature...
Easy. Everybody was created by their own individual god or goddess on a quota system. Atheists were surplus to quota requirements.
IIRC, most pagan religions pre-dated anything monotheistic, such as Christianity. Shamanism, Druids, and the Greek and Roman gods are right off the top of that list.
And even the Bible is rather iffy on whether its God, Yahweh, is truly the only God, or merely the God of Israel.
Should I show u no evidence of Thor or Apollo or Odin? Which God made up by man do you think is fiction and which do u think is real?
Your question is no different than asking Tolkien for evidence that hobbits aren't real. Just because the word religion is used, why do u accept magical writings as real? Cause people 2000 years ago said so? I made up the word pruiytgh. That word created everything. Okay, prove it didn't. See how silly religion and the whole God thing is now? Anyone can make up anything and say that made the world. Why would you go for myths written by Bronze Age people? Are u not educated?
----------
That's evidence of evolution and natural selection. God is a poor mans excuse for I dunno how that got here.
----------
Chemistry evolution and biology.
no there are billions of gods. everyone that believes in god has their own version of their personal god.
Sure it does. Tacos are simply an extension of biology and natural selection, whereby man learned to create various delicacies to satisfy the biological urge to eat. I. E. Man created tacos.
This right here. This is where it all crumbles to dust.
The proof is not on us as we do not need to prove anything to you in order to believe what we believe.
In the end.. The truth will be the truth and there will only be 1 truth whether either of us believe it or not.
If that is so, then why even care what others do or who they marry?
And I really wish you would answer the question I asked a couple posts ago.
if you want to use your faith to rule others lives you better have proof. the sad part you don't even have to prove your faith to yourself to believe.
But hey when christians can agree on the version of the bible that is right or the passages or who is saved and who is not or even how they are saved. then we can start talking truth. truth requires proof and faith is not proof of truth. When no one can agree on the truth who is to say what is or is not the truth ?and would we know it if we did? Truth has to be past faith faith is individual and not something people share. no one has the same faith so saying your faith is truth is saying everyone else is not.
Based on that argument, all plans should have the same cost, deductibles and out-of-pocket costs. They don't. In fact unions are still ticked that their "Cadillac" plans will be taxed in the future. So why should this one thing (4 types of morning after drugs) be decided by the government when other things
(deductibles, OOP and costs) are not. And yes I do know that there are limits to the OOP costs, but some plans have higher ones than others.) In fact, the BC mandate was not even part of the law, it was a regulation written by the DHHS.
Since this one comment garnered several responses, how about we change this to a woman over 50 who is in menopause.
Why does she need BC or maternity services?
Men pay for stuff only women need. Women pay for stuff only men need. It all evens out in the end. If you let people pick and choose every single thing they wanted coverage for, not only would it likely increase administrative costs, undoubtedly someone would decline coverage for something and then need it later.