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Apple's Media Event Predicted to See Retina iPad Mini and Thinner iPad, but No Touch ID or Gold Option
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Yes, it makes a lot of sense, think about it again.
Both may have 2048x1536, however, the mini has a substancially smaller battery compared to the full-size iPad and a smaller casing. The A7 has the same GFLOPS as the A6X, while being smaller and more power efficient, since it´s on 28nm HKMG. The A7 only lacks a bit of raw triangle throughput compared to the A6X, but that is not limiting it in any meaningful way.
The A7X would consume a lot more power when doing graphics related stuff, so it needs the bigger battery to compensate.
You also have to consider the price of the mini. Putting a retina panel into the iPad mini already would reduce Apple´s margins quite substancially and the retina display also adds to the power requirements of the device (if they are not going IGZO, which probably is even more expensive at first).
Therefore, A7 for the mini 2 and A7X for the iPad seems VERY likely.
touch id on ipad 5
i don't understand why they would be predicting for no touch id in the ipad 5. there is a small possibility as far as i'm concerned but really if apple wanted to go forward and implement in the iphone why wouldn't it find it's way onto the ipad? and futhermore i can't put a lot of stock into it but that video of some guy tearing down his iphone 5s to fit the touch id into the ipad 5 shell and it fitting perfectly is pretty convincing it will be there. maybe this is just wishful thinking as i'm definitely getting an ipad 5 no matter what but really seems that everything points to touch id
i don't understand why they would be predicting for no touch id in the ipad 5. there is a small possibility as far as i'm concerned but really if apple wanted to go forward and implement in the iphone why wouldn't it find it's way onto the ipad? and futhermore i can't put a lot of stock into it but that video of some guy tearing down his iphone 5s to fit the touch id into the ipad 5 shell and it fitting perfectly is pretty convincing it will be there. maybe this is just wishful thinking as i'm definitely getting an ipad 5 no matter what but really seems that everything points to touch id
The new 15" rMBP had better have a GPU, these rumours about no dedicated graphics are starting to make me nervous. I plan to game somewhat on that machine and I don't think Iris Pro 5200 in all it's glory can give me the gaming performance I'm after for the next 3-5 years
I remember seeing that video too! It just wouldn't surprise me if there was no touch ID,no gold in either the mini or the IP5. I'd love to see a IP5 with touch ID and a gold mini with retina. I know it's wishful thinking though. Hopefully there's just retina in the mini and I'll be happy
Macbook Touch ID?
Surprised no one has made the connection between Touch ID and MacBooks yet. Imagine Mavericks and updated keychain/payment systems that allow for one touch web purchases and double as macbook security...
Maybe not this time around but the timing would be great and achievable even with limited Touch ID supply given the limited nature of mac sales.
Surprised no one has made the connection between Touch ID and MacBooks yet. Imagine Mavericks and updated keychain/payment systems that allow for one touch web purchases and double as macbook security...
Maybe not this time around but the timing would be great and achievable even with limited Touch ID supply given the limited nature of mac sales.
Really? I think Ming-Chi Kuo is male. I can't seem to find anything that proves it either way though. It seems like most references to Kuo always use male pronouns.
Well, for me the lack of TouchID on the big iPad does not make sense.Is Apple really gonna wait 1 year for this?I mean, Apple folks probably have an iPad and they would love to have TouchID...the analyst is just guessing, he does not have all that information.He says that iPad mini retina will be in short supply...but Apple will do it.Before the iPhone event, Apple did not know that the 5s would be that sucessful.TouchID for the iPad was not decided this week, but months ago.-TouchID on the big iPad definitely won't put it in short supply.Now, touchID not in iPad mini, that makes sense,.
No touch ID on the new iPad's?
Not having this makes me happy actually. Lets hope its true.
This makes zero sense. Do you people realize you don't have to use it? It's like cup holders in a car. You can use them or not use them, but why be happy if you are the type that doesn't use them, for the car manufacturer to lose business because they don't include something you wouldn't use anyways?
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Yes. That´s quite likely, actually. It wouldn´t have enough GPU performance for a retina display, though. Because that´s even less than the iPad 3 had, which got replaced by the iPad 4 with a much faster A6X.
Therefore I predict the following:
iPad mini (A6, no retina) - price reduction to $299 (WiFi - 16GB)
iPad mini (A7, retina) - starts at $499 (WiFi - 16GB)
iPad (A7X, Retina) - starts at $699 (WiFi - 16GB)
I'm waiting to buy an iPad Mini 2.
It just sucks to see how Apple defined this category but is now playing catch up.
Samsung is the new Intel/Dell,while Google is the new MS.
It just sucks to see how Apple defined this category but is now playing catch up.
Samsung is the new Intel/Dell,while Google is the new MS.
Bigger screen isn't differentiation? I'm getting the full size iPad because I want the bigger screen.
Still not a deal breaker, though... For me, retina is more important. if TouchID is there, then good.
You predict Apple will increase the price of the 9.7" iPad $200 and the mini $160? Why? If the 5th gen iPad starts at $699 Apple just lost a sale from me.
Argh, these were actually EUR prices, not US. Thanks for the heads-up.
iPad mini (A6, no retina) - price reduction to $299 (WiFi - 16GB)
iPad mini (A7, retina) - starts at $399 (WiFi - 16GB)
iPad (A7X, Retina) - starts at $499 (WiFi - 16GB)
Seems more likely, no?
I could see maybe a gold mini but not full size iPad. But I could also see it being on neither. It might be something that looks better on a smaller device like the iPhone.
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Yes. Much better. Though a part of me still wonders if the $329 price wasn't taking future retina into account. When the 3rd gen iPad came out Apple didn't increase the price, they just reduced the price of iPad 2. Same thing with iPhone. iPhone 4 wasn't more expensive than the 3GS. I'm hoping Apple doesn't have to raise the price $60 to add retina.
Only person with that name I could find (don't think it's the right person though, might be):
http://gis-taiwan.ntu.edu.tw/page/lecturer.php
If it is the right person, then tech blogs have been making a mistake for years.
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If they don't put a retina display on the next Ipad mini then there would be absolutely no reason to release a new Ipad mini. So with that being said I would be shocked to see a new Ipad mini without retina. I'm hoping for one I would like to purchase.
Will we see any new features like 802.11ac or USB 3.0? Some new features would be nice, otherwise I can't really justify upgrading from my iPad3 to an iPad5 for "catch up" improvements.
Faster CPU and GPU is always nice, but my iPad3 actually is still very fast.
I love the "rationale" column descriptions--"thick and heavy iPad 4". I don't recall anyone ever saying the iPad 4 is thick OR heavy! "Easier to carry and aesthetically pleasing". Well that right there is worth me spending $800 on a new one! (NOT!). "Image quality on par with competitors". Apple playing "catch up" again. "Photo taking on par with competitors". Wouldn't be caught dead taking pictures with my iPad. And, again, playing "catch up" with others. "Better computing power". My ipad 3 is plenty fast enough still.
I sure hope Apple has other tricks up their sleeve or this event will be a real YAWNER.
Faster CPU and GPU is always nice, but my iPad3 actually is still very fast.
I love the "rationale" column descriptions--"thick and heavy iPad 4". I don't recall anyone ever saying the iPad 4 is thick OR heavy! "Easier to carry and aesthetically pleasing". Well that right there is worth me spending $800 on a new one! (NOT!). "Image quality on par with competitors". Apple playing "catch up" again. "Photo taking on par with competitors". Wouldn't be caught dead taking pictures with my iPad. And, again, playing "catch up" with others. "Better computing power". My ipad 3 is plenty fast enough still.
I sure hope Apple has other tricks up their sleeve or this event will be a real YAWNER.
I have to agree with this. It's sad to see them just putting out incremental updates. Yes, the iPads are truly solid products, but the competition is catching/passing them, and they need to not rest on their laurels.
Don't intentionally gimp the mini. Some of us prefer the form factor, Apple. Don't punish us.
I think the $329 with retina and an A7 would hit Apple´s margins way too much. The $329 introductory price probably was to leave a bit of a headroom for future price reductions. That $30 difference instead of going $299 always struck me as odd, anyway.
Well, I certainly hope for 802.11ac, but for some reason I doubt it. USB 3.0 would also be great, since the lightning connector is still on USB 2.0 speeds (running into a wall at 28MB/sec with my 5s).