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Apple's Royalty Payments to Nokia Estimated at $608 Million Up Front, ~$138 Million Per Quarter
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neighbours...
In their respective Paris offices, Nomura and Apple share the same building. Sounds like the walls are quite thin there.
In their respective Paris offices, Nomura and Apple share the same building. Sounds like the walls are quite thin there.
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What a failure of management at Apple. They should have had their bases covered when they were designing the iPhone. Instead they took shortcuts and got called out on it.
Ah, an expert.
Please explain to us all what 'shortcuts' they took and how they could have avoided them.
Is that right? Android phone makers have been paying Nokia? If so, that means some Android phone makers are paying twice, for some are paying Microsoft for patent rights to use Android too. What a mess.
4 years? I have a Nokia e71, released 3 years ago. It does not suck ass.
Is there a reason why you seem so obsessed with praising apple? Perhaps youre a shareholder?
I admit that if Apple owed money to Nokia for use of their patents then they need to pay like anyone else. But that was never at issue.
If Nokia was asking for more than what everyone else was paying then we had a problem, in which case it was right for Apple to hold out.
I'm not sure what there was to "win" here when Apple would have had to pay Nokia something anyway. We all knew that. The only question was how much. That's what the dispute was about. Not whether Apple owed anything.
Not much of a contest to begin with, though. You've got an innovator at the top of their game, and then you've got an example of wilful negligence gone very bad. Nokia can use every cent they can get. Good for them. Better buyout bait at then end.
If only they put as much attention into their products as they do with pursuing patent royalties.
But karma is clearly a bitch, because of all the wagons to hitch their droopy star to they picked Microsoft's. Or rather, it was probably fate.
I wonder what Nokia had that was so valuable? I used one of their phones from Sept 2010 - Feb 2011 and I hated it. It did nothing right. Its hard to imagine any technology from Nokia being worth $0.01, not to mention $6.00 a phone.
Yes it was:
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/2...uit-against-apple-regarding-wireless-patents/
Please don't make false statements in further comments.
Thanks to Apple, Nokia won't be closing up shop. They are very near collapse. Perhaps they'll be bought out.
LOL. Run for congress - you're great at sidestepping.
Now Nokia is not only negligent (in your opinion) but WILLFUL? Too funny. You also start my saying IF Apple owed money - and then you stated that Apple did owe Nokia money - the question was how much. Do you see how you shape your posts to serve your purpose/twist it anyway you can to keep Apple ahead in the arrangement?
Here's the fact. Nokia owned patents. Apple used them. Apple was sued and lost and now has to make restitution. There's no patent trolling going on. There's a legitimate patent holder who enforced their rights via the legal system.
BELIEVE me - if this were Apple's patents and Nokia was sued and lost - you'd be shouting how great it is that someone who dared opposed Apple got shot down. Of that I am certain.
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What a failure of management at Apple. They should have had their bases covered when they were designing the iPhone. Instead they took shortcuts and got called out on it.
Before "thinking out loud" why don't you take some time to educate yourself of the patent. Here read this before you look stupid again.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/06/14/...to-pay-one-time-fee-and-ongoing-license-fees/
They do dumbphones ok. As long as the market for dumbphones remains viable, of course. If we were ever to see content-rich app-enabled phones the likes of Google's and Apple's approaching dumbphone prices, however, then Nokia will have even more problems. But by then their future will have been decided. What that future is we'll find out sometime in 2012.
Basically it's the technology that enables the iPhone to make a phone call or access the 3G networks.
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/2...uit-against-apple-regarding-wireless-patents/
Nokia said:
Pretty useful don't you think?
No. Those are only half the facts. The dispute was about how much Nokia was demanding from Apple. Apple was asking for the same treatment Nokia gave everyone else in terms of the actual amount owing.
I hope the partnership with M$ proves successful. I'd hate to have LTD's dreams of a monopoly market run by Apple. Corporate competition only makes the consumer the real winner.
I think dumbphones still have plenty of life still left in them. You'll disagree. But you have a bias.
No. What I stated was fact. You can throw in random details of the case - but my summary is 100 percent correct. But nice try.
That's a buncha money. I still haven't seen a concise & complete list of the patents infringed upon. That'd be interesting to see.
I don't mind competition, as long as it's competent.
There's already too much poorly designed, bad tech out there. Adding more doesn't help anyone.
I tend to laugh a little harder than most at the incompetence that's out there. Partly because for the most part, it's such a stark contrast to Apple.
I wonder what he thinks of this:
http://www.johnsphones.com/
Its ridiculously ignorant to assume 'dumbphones' are irrelevant, and also arrogant to try to force smartphones on everyone when not all have the need for one.
Again, please don't make false statements.
Apple wasn't paying, they got sued. Even macrumors posted this;
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/2...uit-against-apple-regarding-wireless-patents/