Daughters iPhone 6 got stolen...anything I can do?!

[JulesJam]

You're making some untrue assumptions about me. I absolutely value an education as more than getting a job.

Couldn't tell by what you have posted here.

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I've never heard of a business degree being an idiotic avenue.

A general business degree from your local run of the mill state university leaves many students working as retail clerks. The state schools simply pump too many of these degrees out. Now the students may move up to manage the retail store but they aren't starting out in management unless they went to a good school.

Hmm I wonder if those who spend so much are Wharton idiots??

What does getting a graduate degree from a top university have to do with getting a bachelor's in general business? Um, nothing

Anyhow you just proved my point for me - graduate school is a necessary step for many college degrees in order to make the student employable.

 

[lordofthereef]

Couldn't tell by what you have posted here.

Why? Because I'm a realist? It's one thing to value education. It's another to realize that unemployment rates are up, school tuitions are constantly on the rise, and people are unable to pay for them. In a perfect world, virtually everyone could get the education they want. This is not a perfect world and people are drowning in student loan debt. The fact that I see a problem with that does not, and should not, imply that I don't value education.

As a slight side story, I did collections and donations works at Iowa state university for a semester. It basically involved calling alumni and asking for donations. They could donate to any segment of the school they wanted (ISU being big on sports they often dumped it on football ). Long story short, my comouter gave me bits of data, such as majors, graduation dates, and tuitions. Even adjusting for inflation, those graduating in the 70s and 80s (and earlier) had it good. One of the "tactics" we were taught, when havingn a discussion and asking for a donation, was to talk about tuition. By and large people would say they never took loans, and if they did, they were able to pay them by working part time alongside school. who is able to get a part time job today that will even out a dent into a semester's loan?

I could go on and on about how a lot of this has to do with government spending. Schools, especially in the medical and tech industries, are also hiring big names for research; student tuitions pay for said research and if something profitable comes of it the school wins big (twice)! Institutions are operating like big businesses now, much more than ever. Part of it has to do with jobs that didn't require a degree decades ago now requiring one to do the same work.

So yes, I very much value education. Unfortunately, it's not affordable for a whole lot of people and, unlike most types of investments, not very many are told to think about it. You don't (or shouldn't) go out and buy a car you cannot afford. You don't purchase a house if you can't pay the mortgage. But what you do do is take out a bunch of loans for education becsuse "that's what people do".

Edit: whike I am enjoying the discussion, I think this is where I bow out. We have gone ridiculously off topic, something I actually discussed trying to stay on many posts ago. Apologies for being part of the derailing OP!

 

[Ramio]

Why? Because I'm a realist? It's one thing to value education. It's another to realize that unemployment rates are up, school tuitions are constantly on the rise, and people are unable to pay for them. In a perfect world, virtually everyone could get the education they want. This is not a perfect world and people are drowning in student loan debt. The fact that I see a problem with that does not, and should not, imply that I don't value education.

As a slight side story, I did collections and donations works at Iowa state university for a semester. It basically involved calling alumni and asking for donations. They could donate to any segment of the school they wanted (ISU being big on sports they often dumped it on football ). Long story short, my comouter gave me bits of data, such as majors, graduation dates, and tuitions. Even adjusting for inflation, those graduating in the 70s and 80s (and earlier) had it good. One of the "tactics" we were taught, when havingn a discussion and asking for a donation, was to talk about tuition. By and large people would say they never took loans, and if they did, they were able to pay them by working part time alongside school. who is able to get a part time job today that will even out a dent into a semester's loan?

I could go on and on about how a lot of this has to do with government spending. Schools, especially in the medical and tech industries, are also hiring big names for research; student tuitions pay for said research and if something profitable comes of it the school wins big (twice)! Institutions are operating like big businesses now, much more than ever. Part of it has to do with jobs that didn't require a degree decades ago now requiring one to do the same work.

So yes, I very much value education. Unfortunately, it's not affordable for a whole lot of people and, unlike most types of investments, not very many are told to think about it. You don't (or shouldn't) go out and buy a car you cannot afford. You don't purchase a house if you can't pay the mortgage. But what you do do is take out a bunch of loans for education becsuse "that's what people do".

Edit: whike I am enjoying the discussion, I think this is where I bow out. We have gone ridiculously off topic, something I actually discussed trying to stay on many posts ago. Apologies for being part of the derailing OP!

No big deal . I'd rather read an interesting discussion like this than some of the other comments sigh.

 

[cableguy619]

Doing well in school is what they are supposed to do. That's like congratulating someone cause they have never been to prison!



Your not supposed to go to prison, staying out is not commendable.

Doing well is getting a C and passing. Doing great is getting straight A's taking 3 AP classes (college courses) on top of your excellerated classes, while playing sports and everything else you are doing.

How a person chooses to reward their children is just that their choice to reward them. Why judge someone for their choice.

AGAIN A THEIF IS A THEIF.... Your analogy is a joke. Get real

 

[Ramio]

Doing well is getting a C and passing. Doing great is getting straight A's taking 3 AP classes (college courses) on top of your excellerated classes, while playing sports and everything else you are doing.

How a person chooses to reward their children is just that their choice to reward them. Why judge someone for their choice.

AGAIN A THEIF IS A THEIF.... Your analogy is a joke. Get real

Well said!

 

[rGiskard]

Well that sucks, always sorry to hear about stolen iPhones. It does seem like her environment is a risky place to carry an expensive phone. I wouldn't trust leaving a new iPhone in an out-of-sight backpack and I'm a lot older than your little girl.

At this point the thief has most likely torn the phone down to sell as parts. If it was some little sh t classmate, then he/she probably threw it out after discovering it's locked.

In addition to filing a police report and notifying the school, I would keep an eye on craigslist and ebay for iphones matching her model that are geographically close to you. Maybe iPhone parts as well, thought that's a longshot.

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Doing well is getting a C and passing. Doing great is getting straight A's taking 3 AP classes (college courses) on top of your excellerated classes, while playing sports and everything else you are doing.

How a person chooses to reward their children is just that their choice to reward them. Why judge someone for their choice.

AGAIN A THEIF IS A THEIF.... Your analogy is a joke. Get real

Totally agree, though I wouldn't consider a "C" average "doing well" - even in "excellerated" classes, whatever the eff those are.

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I could go on and on about how a lot of this has to do with government spending. Schools, especially in the medical and tech industries, are also hiring big names for research; student tuitions pay for said research

Student tuitions do not pay for that research, it is funded by grants from corporations or government agencies.

Agree with everything else you said, just want to make it clear that high student tuitions are driven by low government spending on public universities and by some of the choices those universities make in spending for new infrastructure. Research grants are an entirely different area.

 

[lordofthereef]

Well that sucks, always sorry to hear about stolen iPhones. It does seem like her environment is a risky place to carry an expensive phone. I wouldn't trust leaving a new iPhone in an out-of-sight backpack and I'm a lot older than your little girl.

At this point the thief has most likely torn the phone down to sell as parts. If it was some little sh t classmate, then he/she probably threw it out after discovering it's locked.

In addition to filing a police report and notifying the school, I would keep an eye on craigslist and ebay for iphones matching her model that are geographically close to you. Maybe iPhone parts as well, thought that's a longshot.

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Totally agree, though I wouldn't consider a "C" average "doing well" - even in "excellerated" classes, whatever the eff those are.

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Student tuitions do not pay for that research, it is funded by grants from corporations or government agencies.

Agree with everything else you said, just want to make it clear that high student tuitions are driven by low government spending on public universities and by some of the choices those universities make in spending for new infrastructure. Research grants are an entirely different area.

student tuitions pay for all of part the salaries (which are often incredible) for the researchers the school employs. The schools get around this by having the researcher actually teach a class or two.

 

[patent10021]

14 years old and an iphone 6...

i didnt even have a cellphone at 14..

good luck buddy..

6-10 yo's at my school in Japan have iPhone 5/6's. It's on 'parental mode' so all they can do is call home or receive calls from home etc. Some of them are just tied and dangling from their backpacks. It's quite amusing.

 

[rGiskard]

student tuitions pay for all of part the salaries (which are often incredible) for the researchers the school employs. The schools get around this by having the researcher actually teach a class or two.

Research scientists have incredible salaries? I guess by student income standards they do. Anyways, professor salaries aren't driving the high tuition costs - it's not as if it's a new thing to pay professors for their time.

 

[countmacula]

Another suggestion for recovering phone is to monitor ebay and craigslist for listings, although I think your best bet is to put up posters with a reward at the school. Most kids know what goes on in their peer group. It might get the guilty party to do the right thing and return it.

 

[RCRod83]

Research scientists have incredible salaries? I guess by student income standards they do. Anyways, professor salaries aren't driving the high tuition costs - it's not as if it's a new thing to pay professors for their time.

I disagree that professor salaries aren't driving the high tuition costs. Without going too off topic, I work for a public institution and the average faculty salary in the business school is $175,000 base salaries. This doesn't include the fringe costs associated (approx. 40%). And many of these faculty are on low 2-2 course loads.

 

[lordofthereef]

Research scientists have incredible salaries? I guess by student income standards they do. Anyways, professor salaries aren't driving the high tuition costs - it's not as if it's a new thing to pay professors for their time.

I'm not claiming that this is the single driving factor. I am stating that it is a factor. I would consider a six figure salary as pretty substantial.

 

[bushido]

It's crazy that you guys have to pay for uni! We used to pay 380€ per semester but people freaked out and went on the streets so tuition has been dropped in every state. Now we just pay 80€ per semester which includes using the public transportation for the whole semester.

What are those schools doing with all the money??? ONE THOUSAND DOLLAR just for an application fee at some American colleges? NUTS! How's that justified

 

[rGiskard]

I disagree that professor salaries aren't driving the high tuition costs. Without going too off topic, I work for a public institution and the average faculty salary in the business school is $175,000 base salaries. This doesn't include the fringe costs associated (approx. 40%). And many of these faculty are on low 2-2 course loads.

Ok well I don't know about B school but that's not anywhere near the average for the biological sciences professors where I am.

Edit: For the record, courses are only a very small part of the job of a research scientist.

Also, I wouldn't call $175K an outrageous salary for someone who puts in the time and effort of the professors I know (few of whom make that much).

Finally, you could pay all the professors an average salary of $50,000 a year and that wouldn't drop the cost of tuition very much. It wouldn't be anywhere near a level where a student could work summers and breaks to pay his way through college. We're talking a difference of like $15+ thousand per year versus a few hundred bucks a semester - that delta isn't due to "overpaid" professors.

I must add that of the people I know making a lot of cash, professors work harder than any of them, and they are far more singularly adept at what they do. I don't know a single one who's in it for the money - any of them could move to the private sector and score double what they make at a university.

 

[rGiskard]

It's crazy that you guys have to pay for uni! We used to pay 380€ per semester but people freaked out and went on the streets so tuition has been dropped in every state. Now we just pay 80€ per semester which includes using the public transportation for the whole semester.

What are those schools doing with all the money??? ONE THOUSAND DOLLAR just for an application fee at some American colleges? NUTS! How's that justified

Americans were conned decades ago. All a politician has to do is babble about taxes and socialism and the public agrees to pull funding for schools. There is also a long history of anti-intellectualism in the US which is absent from much of Europe. Don't forget that a few hundred years ago you guys sent all your barbaric religious nuts to the "new world", lol.

A couple Aussies I know always tell me, "we got the outlaws, you got the fundies". Couldn't be more true.

 

[Rugburn]

For future reference, be proactive to protect your phone.

Use a passcode
Make sure Find iphone is On.
Make sure airplane mode can not be enabled in the lock screen (Fix in Settings)
In settings put in restrictions that apps cannot be deleted without passcode.
Use the health app to put contact info in (in case it's just lost).
Also consider having name and contact info on the lock screen wallpaper or on back of the phone.

I let my kids have iphones starting in Junior High. My budget allows them a hand me down. But they have to follow my rules and do their part to keep their phone secure. Else they don't have that luxury.

Only once we had an iPhone disappear. Kid left it at school. Blasted that damn phone with alarms and messages until the I got a response. Watch it travel across town.

"Theif" claimed to be school custodian taking it home for safe keeping....

5am next morning phone arrives back at the school. Daughter picked it up from the principal office. Lesson learned.

But see, having "find my iPhone" turned off isn't an option in my family. I pay for your phone? You keep security measures on whether you like it or not.

 

[enrincon89]

Call the carrier and report it stolen so no one can use it.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

For future reference, be proactive to protect your phone.

Use a passcode
Make sure Find iphone is On.
Make sure airplane mode can not be enabled in the lock screen (Fix in Settings)
In settings put in restrictions that apps cannot be deleted without passcode.
Use the health app to put contact info in (in case it's just lost).
Also consider having name and contact info on the lock screen wallpaper or on back of the phone.

I let my kids have iphones starting in Junior High. My budget allows them a hand me down. But they have to follow my rules and do their part to keep their phone secure. Else they don't have that luxury.

Only once we had an iPhone disappear. Kid left it at school. Blasted that damn phone with alarms and messages until the I got a response. Watch it travel across town.

"Theif" claimed to be school custodian taking it home for safe keeping....

5am next morning phone arrives back at the school. Daughter picked it up from the principal office. Lesson learned.

But see, having "find my iPhone" turned off isn't an option in my family. I pay for your phone? You keep security measures on whether you like it or not.

Excellent post!

 

[rGiskard]

For future reference, be proactive to protect your phone.

Use a passcode
Make sure Find iphone is On.
Make sure airplane mode can not be enabled in the lock screen (Fix in Settings)
In settings put in restrictions that apps cannot be deleted without passcode.
Use the health app to put contact info in (in case it's just lost).
Also consider having name and contact info on the lock screen wallpaper or on back of the phone.

I let my kids have iphones starting in Junior High. My budget allows them a hand me down. But they have to follow my rules and do their part to keep their phone secure. Else they don't have that luxury.

Only once we had an iPhone disappear. Kid left it at school. Blasted that damn phone with alarms and messages until the I got a response. Watch it travel across town.

"Theif" claimed to be school custodian taking it home for safe keeping....

5am next morning phone arrives back at the school. Daughter picked it up from the principal office. Lesson learned.

But see, having "find my iPhone" turned off isn't an option in my family. I pay for your phone? You keep security measures on whether you like it or not.

That's all well and good, but Find My iPhone isn't a theft deterrent. The perp only finds out it's locked after he lifts it. Find My iPhone protect your personal info and data, no more.

For real theft protection, iPhones will need this feature (use your imagination to substitute appropriate body part):

 

[Rugburn]

It's enough of a theft deterrent if your willing to use it.

Some 14 yr old kid is looking for opportunity. Not necessarily a hardened criminal. Bug them enough, pester them enough, they'll get scared and give up. My kids' was taken by a school janitor. I know that's exactly why I got it back. What first looked like an easy buck became a pain in the ass.

Is it going to keep your phone from getting stolen no matter what? No. But it's something. Don't you lock your house when you leave? Lock your car? Will that little lock deter every theft? No, but it will deter some.

Sorry, but if you are going to allow a 14 yr old to carry a $800 and leave it sometimes unsecured, at least DO SOMETHING! Put the Find iphone app on. Take steps to keep it from being removed. It's FREE for Petes Sakes. Doesn't cost a dime. I have no idea why you wouldn't want to use it.

Most 14 yr olds Ive ever known are little *****s. Start telling them you tracked them and you know where they are and they'll give up. Or be able to give the principal or campus security an address.

It's at least better than nothing. Again, I just don't understand how you carry an $800 phone and neglect to use it.

 

[Born Again]

I'd like to chip in $20 towards your daughters replacement iphone

Anyone else I'm with me!!!!!!?!!

 

[pdxmatts]

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Have you thought about going into Apple with your daughter and telling them what happened? They may take pity on you and give you a replacement at the out of warranty price. It's worth a try.

 

[617aircav]

Another suggestion for recovering phone is to monitor ebay and craigslist for listings, although I think your best bet is to put up posters with a reward at the school. Most kids know what goes on in their peer group. It might get the guilty party to do the right thing and return it.

This is laughable. There are thousands of these phones on eBay. There is not a single way to ID yours.

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I'd like to chip in $20 towards your daughters replacement iphone



Anyone else I'm with me!!!!!!?!!

No way. An iPhone is not a necessary item. The ip can easily walk into a Walmart and buy a number of phones that cost as little as $20. Your suggestion is madness.

 

[The Doctor11]

Have you thought about going into Apple with your daughter and telling them what happened? They may take pity on you and give you a replacement at the out of warranty price. It's worth a try.

Not worth a try....

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No way. An iPhone is not a necessary item. The ip can easily walk into a Walmart and buy a number of phones that cost as little as $20. Your suggestion is madness.

That's not the point though. The point is to try and help OP replace it.

 

[01silver4]

This is laughable. There are thousands of these phones on eBay. There is not a single way to ID yours.

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No way. An iPhone is not a necessary item. The ip can easily walk into a Walmart and buy a number of phones that cost as little as $20. Your suggestion is madness.

I could do this no problem.

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I'd like to chip in $20 towards your daughters replacement iphone

Anyone else I'm with me!!!!!!?!!

Yes I could do this no problem.