You guys must have super eyesight I guess. I do photo and video professionally and I can easily notice when video is dropping frames I don't see any lag at all, odd. I'll still post a video so others can see for themselves
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Returning my rMB, don't like it enough to keep it.
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You guys must have super eyesight I guess. I do photo and video professionally and I can easily notice when video is dropping frames I don't see any lag at all, odd. I'll still post a video so others can see for themselves
I'm going to play devils advocate.
My iGPU kicks in only when required, such as Lightroom, Photoshop, Games, etc. When using the web or most applications for that matter, it runs under the Iris Pro.
How do you explain not having lag in general despite I'm using Intel's graphics processing 80% of the time?
I think the Iris Pro is ok, its the regular Iris in the 13" models and the 5300 in the rMB that causes the UI lag. Well thats my guess anyway.
Serious question because I don't have any UI lag, or that I have witnessed anyway.
The only aggravating things I have come across are Safari based bugs that Apple needs to iron out.
Safari acts weird sometimes...one thing specifically is when I do a search on craigslist sometimes my typing is delayed a few seconds.
Safari will pinwheel sometimes for no reason...just stupid **** that is obvious a driver issue.
My benchmark scores are 12.5K on the multi-core processing.
As much as I have talked crap about the rMB I'm still contemplating getting it and leaving my 15" rMBP on my desk at home while I take the rMB to school.
I'm a mechanical engineering major though, so eventually once I'm deeper into the program I will need my 15" for engineering based software if I have any desire to work outside of a school lab....so the rMB would only be useful for me through my basic courses.
The most common UI lag is going in and out of mission control. I see the UI lag there on every 13" rMBP ive used, and ive used ALOT. At the end of the day if you cant see it don't go looking for it, enjoy your machine.
BTW & FWIW, the *worst* lag I've ever seen is on the 11" MBAs, up to and including the 2015. Even scrolling in Safari is an eye-bender.
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What if you don't use them? And I guess we need to add an SD card reader, since the comparable MBA doesn't come with one.
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If it's working for you, I wouldn't rush. Even when Apple pulls the plug on the 11", which I believe they will do, there will be at least a slight lag for new inventory and months to pick one up in the refurb section (at great prices). No reason to stampede yourself.
You are the one that was specing out the two computers so that they would be comparable. All I was doing was pointing out that to truly make them comparable you have to include all of the features possible and not pick and choose.
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Unfortunately, that is limited to the 15" - and it comes with its own issues. There are no perfect solutions, only different compromises...
Unfortunately, that is limited to the 15" - and it comes with its own issues. There are no perfect solutions, only different compromises...
We are talking about an 11" MBA and not a 15" MBPr.
Pardon me, your grace - I didn't realize I was spewing anything.
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Thanks for participating, my lord, but the post I was quoting mentioned a dGPU, which last I checked wasn't an option on the 11" MBA. Or did you have one made up for you as a CTO?
Pardon me, your grace - I didn't realize I was spewing anything.
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Thanks for participating, my lord, but the post I was quoting mentioned a dGPU, which last I checked wasn't an option on the 11" MBA. Or did you have one made up for you as a CTO?
Sorry about that I typed specing and it autocorrected to spewing. It also did it when I was typing this reply. I did not intend any disrespect.
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Thanks. Let's forget and move on. My prior post deleted.
Unfortunately, that is limited to the 15" - and it comes with its own issues. There are no perfect solutions, only different compromises...
What issues? Aside from everyone not happy with the outdated iGPU, although it performs better than the Iris Pro alone.
Ok, I started opening multiple windows to do a video and now I see the lag. It seems to happen when you are on a page that has flash, like the eBay main page and ESPN. Don't notice it when its a site like this with no flash on it. Its still only like a split second hesitation, I see it way more often on my iPhone and it doesn't anger me enough to return my iPhone. Non issue for me, I very rarely have more than one window or tab open at a time. Even if I did have multiple windows and desktops running, that little hesitation wouldn't make me angry enough to return it lol. Some people...
From reading (which I guess means a big qualification) the Yosemite and MBP forums, various problems from text entry issues to scrolling problems to kernel panics and crashes with recent models. If I'm mis-remembering, which happens, I will happily stand corrected.
True this.
Every retina Mac I've seen has noticeable Ui lag, and it makes sense that the rMB would be the worst yet in this regard.
I sense a lot of speculation without actual facts.
What your saying is those issues are dependent to the 15" rMBP?
I don't think you're talking about the same lag that we are. We mean stuttering Mission Control, juddering transitions between Spaces, etc. Totally, totally obvious, and if the rMB doesn't do it then it's a first for any retina Mac.
User reports, as read in the past and subject to memory issues (mine, not RAM), so add salt as necessary. Yes on the second.
Well, yeah, it is indeed a 'huge' issue and there are loads of videos. Here's one: http://youtu.be/J9hGJeLwRbA
Ive seen that before and as the post mentions, its a limited number of people who are complaining about it. Your average user doesn't sit there minimizing and expanding windows over and over again or sit there firing away on the MC key lol. People are MAKING it an issue and its quite stupid. Buy hey, if you want to spend $2500+tax on the high end rMBP 15 so you don't have to see a split second lag, Im sure Apple would love to take your money!
Your 2015 MBA screen is what I couldn't stand. It amazes me that you can put up with that TN screen yet not ignore an almost imperceptible amount of lag. I don't expect to ever notice it but I will love the retina screen.
Pardon me, your grace - I didn't realize I was spewing anything.
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Thanks for participating, my lord, but the post I was quoting mentioned a dGPU, which last I checked wasn't an option on the 11" MBA. Or did you have one made up for you as a CTO?
Your posts are my favorite. You're courteous yet also not afraid to add a bit of an attitude when it is warranted.
Seriously. I tried to convince myself the 2015 MBA I had was superior to the MacBook because of the ports and processor but that screen, my God. I returned it 3 days after I bought it. Its embarrassing Apple still sells a new MacBook in 2015 with that horrid TN display, much less what they charge for it. I'll gladly put up with a split second lag to never have to look at that MBA display again.