No, because quite simply people do not wait with bated breath for Samsung's next product announcement--they simply announce too many new products to build up any kind of anticipation.
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Samsung Reportedly Dethrones Apple as Top Smartphone Vendor in Q3 2011
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No, because quite simply people do not wait with bated breath for Samsung's next product announcement--they simply announce too many new products to build up any kind of anticipation.
Reportedly wasn't used to protect the feelings of anyone, the article is quite clear on why that word was used.
These threads are pointless and just breed fanboy rants.
Both companies and both phones are great, certainly great to have the competition as well.
Both companies and both phones are great, certainly great to have the competition as well.
Well I won't be reading too much into it...
...seeing as Apple make ONE premium product phone (albeit three memory configs), whereas Samsung also make cheapie-phones which more people will buy. So Apple sells loads of quality gear, and Samsung can include their 'cheap-and-nasties' in the mix.
...seeing as Apple make ONE premium product phone (albeit three memory configs), whereas Samsung also make cheapie-phones which more people will buy. So Apple sells loads of quality gear, and Samsung can include their 'cheap-and-nasties' in the mix.
You may have touched on one major point, though. With Samsung as one of Apple's prime suppliers for components, Samsung also gets an inside track on what Apple is producing; information they can use to develop a directly competitive device. Now, in the world of finance this is called "Insider Trading" but in the world of manufacturing, it's called "Industrial Espionage", which is quite illegal if I remember correctly. It was industrial espionage which killed IBM as the predominant supplier of desktop PCs back in the '80s.
In my book, you are describing iPhones and the reasons why I sold my iPhone and bought a Galaxy S2 instead.
Ok Oliver Stone - do you have any idea how supply chains work? Just because Samsung supplies one or more parts doesn't mean they have a CLUE about anything else that Apple is doing.
If I supply your restaurant with ground meat - do I know what you're putting on the menu? All I know is that you are using ground meat.
Exactly. Samsung sells more phone versions providing the customer with more options and more choices. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact they react better on consumer demand/needs. More networks supported, screen sizes, keyboard types, etc.
Apple is offering one size fits all solution. Soviet Union had a similar goods offering. You could only buy one type of milk. Do you want no fat, low fat, lactose-free, organic? You want to much. Forget it. We know what you need. And do you also want jeans and chewing gum? No way: that's wrong
Shipped does not equal sold
From what I understand
Samsung tend to count the numbers they ship
Apple tends to count the numbers sold
As such Samsung may well ship more phones than Apple, however if these sit on the shelves at the carriers/supermarkets/etc they should not count
What they really need is numbers of people who retain the phone after 1 month. I know a few people who purchased Android handsets and returned them within days, but you can be sure this counted not only as sales, but activations.
Samsung also makes a lot more than 3 models, so a better set of stats would be based per model not total volume
From what I understand
Samsung tend to count the numbers they ship
Apple tends to count the numbers sold
As such Samsung may well ship more phones than Apple, however if these sit on the shelves at the carriers/supermarkets/etc they should not count
What they really need is numbers of people who retain the phone after 1 month. I know a few people who purchased Android handsets and returned them within days, but you can be sure this counted not only as sales, but activations.
Samsung also makes a lot more than 3 models, so a better set of stats would be based per model not total volume
The iPhone 3Gs now also officially is a "cheap and nasty", even in the US where you are used to paying for a phone that comes with a two year contract (a business model that doesn't work well in Europe - here you get an iPhone 4 for one Euro with a two years contract).
Those numbers were specifically about smartphones, and now that the Chinese have entered that market, you no longer have to pay hundreds of Euros or Dollars to get a phone whose specifications kill an iPhone 3Gs in reverse gear.
Just accept the facts: The iPhone 4S can barely compete with the first generation of dual core Android smartphones and its only cool new feature is Siri -- and that is not even anything new or exciting. Apple threw a lot of money at it and released a well integrated voice assistant. If the team behind SpeakToIt would have the same financial resources and the same bucks for marketing, Siri would only produce a bored yawn in most people. Siri does not actually do anything that SpeakToIt hasn't already done more than a year ago, it only had a much larger development team which made it a good product. But it's nothing new.
Just like the whole rest of the iPhone 4S brought nothing new. Apple only released an evolutionary model that tries hard to keep up with the competition -- but Apple is no longer leading the pack. Apple's domination also is mostly an American phenomenon, they're not nearly that successful here in Europe or in other parts of the world.
I love seeing the competition, helps Apple stay out of Anti-Trust problems
That's what i always say as well i think being number one can sometimes get to your head and quality goes down.
GOOD! Maybe this will push them to do something really innovative instead of a spec bump. Yeah, it's great and fast (my 4S), but blow my mind, you're Apple!
Yes, I'm sure Samsung derives tons of information from Flash memory, CPUs and screens.
Exactly. Samsung sells more phone versions providing the customer with more options and more choices. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact they react better on consumer demand/needs. More networks supported, screen sizes, keyboard types, etc.
Apple is offering one size fits all solution. Soviet Union had a similar goods offering. You could only buy one type of milk. Do you want no fat, low fat, lactose-free, organic? You want to much. Forget it. We know what you need. And do you also want jeans and chewing gum? No way: that's wrong
Or perhaps Apple is only after one (or a small subset of the) market, not the globe, similar to their strategy with their Macintosh computers.
Regardless, the option of having choice is great, though it is always hard for me to recommend the "best" phone for someone, due to the plethora of overlap on the android side of the fence. In some ways, it is quite similar to the confusing options available in heyday of the PC revolution.
Yes, I'm sure Samsung derives tons of information from Flash memory, CPUs and screens.
Hey - I think Apple is building another iPhone!!!
You're a genius Maxwell Smart!
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If that were true - if Apple was only concerned with being niche - then why all the defensive comments. I don't think Apple wants to stay niche. I don't think they ever wanted to be niche. Why else would they keep reporting how their computers are increasing marketshare?
I agree though that having CHOICE is a win-win for everyone. It breeds competition and allows users of all shapes and sizes to get a phone that works best for them.
Exactly. Samsung sells more phone versions providing the customer with more options and more choices. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact they react better on consumer demand/needs. More networks supported, screen sizes, keyboard types, etc.
Apple is offering one size fits all solution. Soviet Union had a similar goods offering. You could only buy one type of milk. Do you want no fat, low fat, lactose-free, organic? You want to much. Forget it. We know what you need. And do you also want jeans and chewing gum? No way: that's wrong
Except your "analogy" fails because you don't need a phone to live and you can choose another OEM.
Indeed, I suspect this quarter will be different. Particularly if that monstrosity they highlighted the other days is going to actually be their flagship device. That thing should sell as well as the streak.
I really don't get why people try to justify why Samsung sold more smartphones than Apple by bashing Samsung.
I mean, if they did, good for them. If they didn't, they still sold millions, so whatever. We're not even sure since the numbers are estimates...
You guys trying to defend Apple sound absolutely ridiculous.. it's not like they pay for your bills.
I mean, if they did, good for them. If they didn't, they still sold millions, so whatever. We're not even sure since the numbers are estimates...
You guys trying to defend Apple sound absolutely ridiculous.. it's not like they pay for your bills.
Hey - I think Apple is building another iPhone!!!
You're a genius Maxwell Smart!
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If that were true - if Apple was only concerned with being niche - then why all the defensive comments. I don't think Apple wants to stay niche. I don't think they ever wanted to be niche. Why else would they keep reporting how their computers are increasing marketshare?
I agree though that having CHOICE is a win-win for everyone. It breeds competition and allows users of all shapes and sizes to get a phone that works best for them.
I tend to agree, Apple does not intend to be a niche player in the smartphone market. Is also think they will ot sacrifice profits for marketshare. As long as they are the only ones actually making money, I think they will be happy.