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Resolved So called "Security Update 2015-002" from today will purposely break nVidia drivers!
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everyday that passes it's becoming harder to own a customized mac pro. from impending component failures to software sabatoges
Does that mean that my 770 I bought from you will still work if I install this "update"?
should fix it for 10.10.2
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Mac/Quadro_Certified/343.02.02f03/WebDriver-343.02.02f03.pkg
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Mac/Quadro_Certified/343.02.02f03/WebDriver-343.02.02f03.pkg
Yup that it does.
Glad I have MVC flashed 980 with EFI, or it's going to be a headache.
Fix for 10.9.5 Web Driver
I don't see the 10.9.5 new driver yet but the build number went from 13F34 to 13F1066.
Trying a quick hack of the plist
EDIT: It worked !!!
So, simple plist edit.
And here is the interesting part....changing the build number magically allows the Nvidia driver to load and run perfectly.
Meanwhile, the App Update window KNOWS it already has the update. It shows up as "Installed in Last 30 Days" and doesn't offer it again.
So, if the OS knows it has update, why, oh why did they need to change the build number?
Hmm......
For 10.9.5 with Security Update ONLY. US ENGLISH
Go to System/Library/CoreServices and drag out SystemVersion.plist and place it in a folder on your desktop or documents folder, name it "System Plist correct version". By doing this you will actually make a copy of it and an original will remain in the CoreServices folder.
Then unzip the one attached below. Place it in the System/Library/CoreServices folder to replace the existing one that you JUST MADE A BACKUP OF.
Open Disk Utility (in Applications folder in the "Utilities" folder) Run a "repair permissions" on this drive. You should see the permissions get repaired on the file you just replaced. (do not just "verify" needs to repair)
Then reboot and select Nvidia Driver again, if you did above correct it will allow you to.
When Nvidia updates the driver you will need to put original back and repair permissions again before new driver will install.
BTW, this makes a fix for future update troubles a little easier. We can either tell the Nvidia Driver that it is for the newer build or...anyhow things to think about. Nice thing about doing this way is no need for kext dev mode thing.
For those in other regions/languages or for those who would rather "do it themselves", make 2 copies of the above file somewhere. Use a plist editor to change the System Version number from 13F1066 back to 13F34.
From what I can tell, this does nothing bad and only allows former Nvidia driver to work. It still knows that the Security Update has been applied.
I don't see the 10.9.5 new driver yet but the build number went from 13F34 to 13F1066.
Trying a quick hack of the plist
EDIT: It worked !!!
So, simple plist edit.
And here is the interesting part....changing the build number magically allows the Nvidia driver to load and run perfectly.
Meanwhile, the App Update window KNOWS it already has the update. It shows up as "Installed in Last 30 Days" and doesn't offer it again.
So, if the OS knows it has update, why, oh why did they need to change the build number?
Hmm......
For 10.9.5 with Security Update ONLY. US ENGLISH
Go to System/Library/CoreServices and drag out SystemVersion.plist and place it in a folder on your desktop or documents folder, name it "System Plist correct version". By doing this you will actually make a copy of it and an original will remain in the CoreServices folder.
Then unzip the one attached below. Place it in the System/Library/CoreServices folder to replace the existing one that you JUST MADE A BACKUP OF.
Open Disk Utility (in Applications folder in the "Utilities" folder) Run a "repair permissions" on this drive. You should see the permissions get repaired on the file you just replaced. (do not just "verify" needs to repair)
Then reboot and select Nvidia Driver again, if you did above correct it will allow you to.
When Nvidia updates the driver you will need to put original back and repair permissions again before new driver will install.
BTW, this makes a fix for future update troubles a little easier. We can either tell the Nvidia Driver that it is for the newer build or...anyhow things to think about. Nice thing about doing this way is no need for kext dev mode thing.
For those in other regions/languages or for those who would rather "do it themselves", make 2 copies of the above file somewhere. Use a plist editor to change the System Version number from 13F1066 back to 13F34.
From what I can tell, this does nothing bad and only allows former Nvidia driver to work. It still knows that the Security Update has been applied.
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Does this update only show after installing the Apple security update, because right now, I haven't installed the security update, and when I check for a nVidia update, it says I am up to date already (with 02f02).
Another confirmation. Netkas link works like a charm! I have one question though... I get that the web driver didn't work because of internal build numbers, but why didn't the Apple stock driver work? This had never been a problem with my EVGA 650ti before.
Nvidia web driver replaces nvdastartup.kext. new update, this kext stops working, nvidia drivers cant be loaded
I wish Apple would hurry up and release a Mac or three with Maxwell. That would put Maxwell drivers into Yosemite and make buying a GTX 970 more palatable to me. A lot of paranoia here, though - I don't think Apple is intentionally breaking drivers; I feel like the blame lies with nVidia by tying every driver to a very specific build.
I'm guessing you have a MacBook Pro retina? This thread is related to graphic cards in the Mac Pro so you shouldn't have any problems with the update.
Thank you for the reply
Ill install it now, this is the reason I buy cards from you!I'm guessing you have a MacBook Pro retina? This thread is related to graphic cards in the Mac Pro so you shouldn't have any problems with the update.
Thanks AdeFowler. It's a macbook. My mistake. I was nervous that the update messed up all the devices which would be horrible. I hope everyone with this problem gets it fixed
Yes, because this was clearly done on purpose to break third party drivers and upset people.
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I have tin foil hats for sale.
Okay. Perhaps then it was done with complete disregard. I guarantee you someone responsible for these software updates is aware that arbitrarily changing the OS X build number (for a security fix, no less) would cause this situation for anyone relying on a cMP and a modern nVidia card.
What should they have done? Not upped the build number? Yes, let's go ahead and completely destroy our build and deploy process because of implications to the guys running the old Mac Pro with Nvidia GPUs.
That sounds about as crazy as the "HAHAHAH, THIS WILL TOTALLY BREAK THE DRIVERS FOR THOSE GUYS WITH NVIDIA GPUS IN THEIR CLASSIC MACS. HAHAHAHA" theory.
Seriously, you guys.
Doubtful, and it's not arbitrary. This update replaced the kernel, thus the new build number. That Nvidia chooses to restrict their drivers' operation to a specific build number of OS X is Nvidia's choice, not Apple's.
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Yes, but as I keep pointing out, if Apple had incorporated new drivers anytime since 10.9 came out this wouldn't be a problem.
By keeping 310.xx drivers in the OS whilst Windows and Nvidia have moved on to 343.xx and 347.xx drivers, Apple created this problem.
Again, for most GTX680 type cards this is no big deal.
It IS a big deal for GTX780Ti, Titan Black, GTX750, GTX960, GTX970, GTX980.
For our folks with EFI cards, they still get to the desktop to fix things. The people running unflashed cards reboot after update and get...NADA...black screen. Lots less fun for them.
Apple is basically still using the Nvidia drivers from 10.8.5 in 10.10. No new cards have been added since then.
And I don't believe that a "Security Update" has ever done this before.
The Apple apologists can stop now.
There was an update for 10.8.5 (back when that was current) which also changed build numbers.
Meanwhile...
...on the more popular desktop OS, most Vista and almost all 7 drivers are fine in 8 and 10. Even some XP drivers are fine.
Why hasn't the "world's most advanced operating system" dealt with the issues of opaque system APIs? The solution is known....
...on the more popular desktop OS, most Vista and almost all 7 drivers are fine in 8 and 10. Even some XP drivers are fine.
Why hasn't the "world's most advanced operating system" dealt with the issues of opaque system APIs? The solution is known....
Believe so, but not 100% positive. At this point, I would say it's likely "safe" to update after verifying your boot drive backup/clone.
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And some people were up in arms about it. Also think that's around the time when NVIDIA started releasing updates on a more timely basis.