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sportsfan1234

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I am a new macbook user and understand very little about computers. I am aware that macs are basically "immune" to catching viruses. In fact, the person at the apple store told me that he had only ever heard of one virus ever affecting a mac before and not to worry about getting an AV. Whether or not that is true, of course people are telling me that it is only a matter of time before more viruses are developed for macs, but for now i am safe b/c even if a virus is on your mac- "it is designed for PC, and therefore cannot convert"...

...Thats all fine. My question is whether or not my mac is able to catch trojans, fishing, adware, spyware....I am concerned about losing my identity/ credit card info over the net. Is mac secure for these things, and if not, what do you recommend to prevent me from encountering any of these problems ?

all advice is appreciated
 
hey macs are quite amazing after 4 years of pretty aggressive downloading and computer use i have never had a virus, and have no anti virus ware, but macs are not immune i think like less then 2% of viruses are mac compatible, if you don't fall any stupid tricks ie "scanning your pc for viruses, 3 founds" or mass email frauds from friends you will have no issues, but be aware that they are there although rare, keep time machine on an external disk and LOVE you mac
 
GGJStudios Virus Primer:


A computer virus is a computer program that can copy itself and infect a computer. The term "virus" is also commonly but erroneously used to refer to other types of malware, adware, and spyware programs that do not have the reproductive ability.

From Symantec:

What is the difference between viruses, worms, and Trojans?

What is a virus?
A computer virus is a small program written to alter the way a computer operates, without the permission or knowledge of the user. A virus must meet two criteria:
It must execute itself. It often places its own code in the path of execution of another program.
It must replicate itself. For example, it may replace other executable files with a copy of the virus infected file. Viruses can infect desktop computers and network servers alike.
What is a Trojan horse?
Trojan horses are impostors—files that claim to be something desirable but, in fact, are malicious. A very important distinction between Trojan horse programs and true viruses is that they do not replicate themselves. Trojan horses contain malicious code that when triggered cause loss, or even theft, of data. For a Trojan horse to spread, you must invite these programs onto your computers; for example, by opening an email attachment or downloading and running a file from the Internet.

What is a worm?
Worms are programs that replicate themselves from system to system without the use of a host file. This is in contrast to viruses, which requires the spreading of an infected host file. Although worms generally exist inside of other files, often Word or Excel documents, there is a difference between how worms and viruses use the host file. Usually the worm will release a document that already has the "worm" macro inside the document. The entire document will travel from computer to computer, so the entire document should be considered the worm.

What is a virus hoax?
Virus hoaxes are messages, almost always sent by email, that amount to little more than chain letters. Following are some of the common phrases that are used in these hoaxes:
If you receive an email titled [email virus hoax name here], do not open it!
Delete it immediately!
It contains the [hoax name] virus.
It will delete everything on your hard drive and [extreme and improbable danger specified here].
This virus was announced today by [reputable organization name here].
Forward this warning to everyone you know!
Most virus hoax warnings do not deviate far from this pattern. If you are unsure if a virus warning is legitimate or a hoax, additional information is available at the Symantec Security Response online database.

As of this time, there are NO viruses in the wild that affect current Mac OS X. In the past, there have been a few viruses that ran on older versions of the Mac operating system, but no longer.

There are, as of this time, trojans that can affect Mac OS X, but these must be downloaded and installed by the user, which involves entering the user's administrator password. Trojans can easily be avoided by the user exercising common sense and caution when installing applications. A common source of trojans is pirated software, typically downloaded from bit torrent sites.

Having virus protection software on your Mac is pointless, as far as protecting your Mac from viruses, since AV software can't detect a virus that doesn't exist. It is possible to have a file reside on your hard drive that contains a Windows virus, but since a Windows virus (program) can't run in native Mac OS X, it would be harmless to your Mac. Some choose to run AV on their Mac to scan for Windows viruses, so the Mac user can't pass a virus-infected file to a Windows user. In my opinion, a Windows user should be protected by their own AV software, so the burden of protection lies with the Windows user.

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i think like less then 2% of viruses are mac compatible

I think you made this up.
 
I am a new macbook user and understand very little about computers. I am aware that macs are basically "immune" to catching viruses. In fact, the person at the apple store told me that he had only ever heard of one virus ever affecting a mac before and not to worry about getting an AV. Whether or not that is true, of course people are telling me that it is only a matter of time before more viruses are developed for macs, but for now i am safe b/c even if a virus is on your mac- "it is designed for PC, and therefore cannot convert"...

...Thats all fine. My question is whether or not my mac is able to catch trojans, fishing, adware, spyware....I am concerned about losing my identity/ credit card info over the net. Is mac secure for these things, and if not, what do you recommend to prevent me from encountering any of these problems ?

all advice is appreciated

You have a zero chance of getting a virus, trojan, or worm, I can promise you that. Most viruses and stuff of the like are made on Mac's for PC's. Therefore, if someone made a Mac virus on a Mac, it would crash their own system.

Also, the term is phishing, not fishing. There's a difference :p. We're talking about stealing information, not catching fish. Anyways, phishing is a newer scheme that many, many, many people fall for. There's really nothing a Mac can do to prevent this - I could literally make a page right now that would look like, for example, the login to Facebook. As soon as you type in your username and password, I'd get notified and would have your information. There is no protection against this - use common sense. If the URL in your browser, for example, isn't facebook.com, and you're seeing a facebook login, don't log in.

As for adware and spyware, you'll be fine. Like I said, your chances of getting anything that will cause harm to your Mac are like .1%. However, if you enter your admin password somewhere, and it alters a system file, you could do some damage there.

I guess out of all I wrote above, the main key thing here is use COMMON SENSE! If something doesn't look right, don't download it, and especially don't enter your admin password to install something that doesn't seem right.
 
Viruses? No, none exist for the Mac.

Trojans? A few exist, but you'll only get them if you download certain pirated apps from The Pirate Bay or other torrent sites.

Adware? As far as I know, not on Macs.

Malware? Only a few incidences of malware exist for the Mac in the wild, and it's pretty damn hard to get any of them on your computer.

Phishing? This is done over the internet, and no operating system will protect you from it.

If you do want an antivirus app, try ClamXav. It's free, and you can use it to scan your own stuff, as well as things you want to send to Windows users.
 
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