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greenguy4

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I know everyone says not to wait but lets pretend I did wait -- when are people expecting them out. I know nobody knows but does anyone have an educated (or even uneducated) guess?
 

baummer

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greenguy4 said:
I know everyone says not to wait but lets pretend I did wait -- when are people expecting them out. I know nobody knows but does anyone have an educated (or even uneducated) guess?

Whenever Apple decides to release them would be my guess.
 

TEG

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Jan 21, 2002
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Until Apple Proves otherwise, I'm considering the iPod photo as the 5G iPod, especially since there is now only one monochrome iPod Left.

TEG
 

Lacero

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New iPods probably won't come out until January 2006. These new 5G iPods will likely reach 80GB, color screen across the board, 30 plus hours battery life.
 

greenguy4

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Awesome!

Well looks like I'm waiting. The 5th generation sounds like it will be a huge jump in quality: better battery, more room, lower cost, color screen. I dont mind waiting a while.
Thanks Guys!
 

Chaszmyr

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TEG said:
Until Apple Proves otherwise, I'm considering the iPod photo as the 5G iPod, especially since there is now only one monochrome iPod Left.

TEG

I totally agree. Monochrome screen to color screen is just as much of a change as moving wheel to touch wheel, and since the monochrome seems to clearly be getting phased out, the iPod Photo should be regarded as 5G.
 

runninmac

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I think that we will see it get an update at MW Paris. I’m thinking that they may do something like make the click wheel more touch sensitive aka make it pressure sensitive because Steve said he liked the idea of a iPod with no moving parts. I am almost positive that we will see the color screen get put in and have the 30 gb 299 and probably the 40 or 60 in the 399 version and maybe bluetooth also.
 

greenguy4

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bluetooth?

Well bluetooth seems like it would be cool. Would this take a really long time to sync it thought with iTunes...well compared with firewire?
 

jackieonasses

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the great OKLAHOMA....
greenguy4 said:
Well bluetooth seems like it would be cool. Would this take a really long time to sync it thought with iTunes...well compared with firewire?
heck yes it is slower..... firewire is 400mb/s and bluetooth is 8-9 mb/s i think...

Please correct me if i am wrong. And to clarify - the iPod Photo is the 5G...

kyle

p.s they won't lower prices.... much at all.
 

Mitthrawnuruodo

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Mar 10, 2004
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Bluetooth 1.1 was 723 kbps... theoretically, real life tests didn't even come close...

Bluetooth 2.0+EDR is said to be 3 Mbps... again theoratically, it's so new I haven't seen any real life tests... some also state this speed to 2 or 2.1 Mbps...

To compare: USB1.1 is 12 Mbps, Firewire400 is - well - 400 Mbps, and USB2 is 480 Mbps (hi-speed, that is, there are also USB2 devices only supporting 12 Mbps), and all these comes much closer to their theoretical speeds then Bluetooth 1.1...

Remember all these speeds are in bits, to get how many bytes, just divide by 8... so a 4 MB song will take at least 11 seconds to transfer using Bluetooth 2.0, filling a 4 GB mini about 3 hours. Good luck. Not to mention that it would probably drain the battery of the smaller device long before it was filled...
 

chaos86

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Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Bluetooth 1.1 was 723 kbps... theoretically, real life tests didn't even come close...

Bluetooth 2.0+EDR is said to be 3 Mbps... again theoratically, it's so new I haven't seen any real life tests... some also state this speed to 2 or 2.1 Mbps...

To compare: USB1.1 is 12 Mbps, Firewire400 is - well - 400 Mbps, and USB2 is 480 Mbps (hi-speed, that is, there are also USB2 devices only supporting 12 Mbps), and all these comes much closer to their theoretical speeds then Bluetooth 1.1...

Remember all these speeds are in bits, to get how many bytes, just divide by 8... so a 4 MB song will take at least 11 seconds to transfer using Bluetooth 2.0, filling a 4 GB mini about 3 hours. Good luck. Not to mention that it would probably drain the battery of the smaller device long before it was filled...


plug it in to charge, use as HDD, fill from empty, software restore etc...

wireless to update calendars, address books, add songs if its only a few (like each time you buy a couple from iTMS), and best of all, share music with other iPod BT users

oh yeah, and when using BT do it without disabling functions, man i wish they would find a way to get rid of that do not disconnect screen while synching so i could add songs while using the ipod.
 

mariahlullaby

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Jan 19, 2005
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Do you think we'll get a design change?

Like we did with the 4G? While I like the look, I never really have felt the grey CW, and the buttons seem a little 'flimsy' to me (feel like they could wear out fast).
 
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