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iSync 2.1 Now Available
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V710 IS supported (sorta)
I'm sync'ing my V710 with bluetooth iSync just fine. Follow this hint for making the necessary iSync modifications. They are quite easy, and worked like a charm for me.
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050501151747917
Note, I haven't yet tested this with the new iSync 2.1, I'm about to try it now.
Ups85 said:
I'm sync'ing my V710 with bluetooth iSync just fine. Follow this hint for making the necessary iSync modifications. They are quite easy, and worked like a charm for me.
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050501151747917
Note, I haven't yet tested this with the new iSync 2.1, I'm about to try it now.
The worst side effect of this "decentralization" is the fact that i can no longer sync my phone using the menu bar item that iSync provides. That will only sync .Mac, which I do FAR less than syncing my phone. Very annoying. Worse, the sync menu doesn't even have an item to open iSync. So I have to go dig for it. This used to work really well. Now it's just stupid stupid stupid.Stella said:
Rather than calling syncing "decentralized", I'd go so far as to call it "broke".
As in, "if it ain't, don't."
Not sure if any of this is of any significance. Neither of these were in 2.0 (that I could find)
Legacy code from when iSync handled iPods, perhaps? But why would it be in Phone services?
iSync->Contents->PlugIns->ApplePhoneConduit.syncdevice
->Contents->Resources->English.lproj->Errors.strings:
"Device is being updated by iTunes. Try again later."
Also:
iSync->Contents->PlugIns->ApplePhoneConduit.syncdevice
->Contents->PlugIns->PhoneModelsSync.phoneplugin
->Contents->Resources->MOTE398B.tiff
The 398B isn't listed under Apple's supported devices (though both the 398 and 398B are listed as phones in the iSync contents)...it looks similar to the supposed iTunes phone (silver, 4 buttons under screen). But I'm not following this too closely and don't know squat about cell phones, so I'm not sure what, if any, of this is significant.
Legacy code from when iSync handled iPods, perhaps? But why would it be in Phone services?
iSync->Contents->PlugIns->ApplePhoneConduit.syncdevice
->Contents->Resources->English.lproj->Errors.strings:
"Device is being updated by iTunes. Try again later."
Also:
iSync->Contents->PlugIns->ApplePhoneConduit.syncdevice
->Contents->PlugIns->PhoneModelsSync.phoneplugin
->Contents->Resources->MOTE398B.tiff
The 398B isn't listed under Apple's supported devices (though both the 398 and 398B are listed as phones in the iSync contents)...it looks similar to the supposed iTunes phone (silver, 4 buttons under screen). But I'm not following this too closely and don't know squat about cell phones, so I'm not sure what, if any, of this is significant.
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Stella said:
There's a GOOD reason--and it's one of the best features Apple's added to iTunes in a while.
The iTunes synching is just for iPods. Those other items (calendars, photos) are secondary to music, of course--but still VERY useful to some of us. So why should iPod owners be forced to take extra steps or use extra apps to have that stuff up to date? Synch your music as usual, and now everything ELSE on your iPod is synched too.
It's exactly what the main iPod app ought to do. And it can happen automatically on connect or not--my choice.
O/T for phones, I know.
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Also you can no longer sync .Mac from iSync (which is the only thing I used it for in the past).
But Hark!!
http://www.apple.com/feedback/isync.html
Let 'em know what you want! They might read it.
But Hark!!
http://www.apple.com/feedback/isync.html
Let 'em know what you want! They might read it.
Motorola RAZR V3 semi-functional
I just got a Motorola RAZR V3 (v.nice phone, BTW) as part of a promotional deal from Rogers. It was working alright with the previous iSync, and I expect it will continue to work with the new one (downloading), but I can't get pictures off this phone!
As far as I can tell, Bluetooth will do it, but neither of my Macs have bluetooth, so I'm using USB, and I can't figure out how to get the photos off the phone. iPhoto and iTunes don't see the phone, and iSync (which does see it) doesn't support photo transfers (or MP3 transfers, so I can't put a customized ring tone on it).
Motorola provides software with the phone to do all of these things, but it's for Windows only, and I don't have VPC.
Anyone have any suggestions?
I just got a Motorola RAZR V3 (v.nice phone, BTW) as part of a promotional deal from Rogers. It was working alright with the previous iSync, and I expect it will continue to work with the new one (downloading), but I can't get pictures off this phone!
As far as I can tell, Bluetooth will do it, but neither of my Macs have bluetooth, so I'm using USB, and I can't figure out how to get the photos off the phone. iPhoto and iTunes don't see the phone, and iSync (which does see it) doesn't support photo transfers (or MP3 transfers, so I can't put a customized ring tone on it).
Motorola provides software with the phone to do all of these things, but it's for Windows only, and I don't have VPC.
Anyone have any suggestions?
In Panther you could make iSync sync iPod ( iCal and Addressbook ) upon plugging in iPod.. and really, this is how it should be. iSync is the central point of device synchronisation..
Having to use three parts of an OS to sync devices is extremely bad design and usability. It makes synchronisation more complicated and timely.
As I said, previously, IMO, iTunes should be a media player only - and having it sychronise addressbook and iCalc is beyond its scope. There is already an application for synchronisation and thats iSync.
The iSync menu bar item even behaves differently depending on if iSync is open or not.. inconsistent behaviour which is very poor in software.
Think we'll have to disagree on this point
Tiger is bad design.
One point of synchronisation please apple ( yes, I know they are not reading this, and I HAVE sent a suggestion via Apple.com ).
OSX - 3 styles of GUI, 3 ways of sync'ing.
OSX is slowly becoming inconsistent. Consistency in software is a must, otherwise it becomes harder and more complex to use.
Having to use three parts of an OS to sync devices is extremely bad design and usability. It makes synchronisation more complicated and timely.
As I said, previously, IMO, iTunes should be a media player only - and having it sychronise addressbook and iCalc is beyond its scope. There is already an application for synchronisation and thats iSync.
The iSync menu bar item even behaves differently depending on if iSync is open or not.. inconsistent behaviour which is very poor in software.
Think we'll have to disagree on this point
Tiger is bad design.
One point of synchronisation please apple ( yes, I know they are not reading this, and I HAVE sent a suggestion via Apple.com ).
OSX - 3 styles of GUI, 3 ways of sync'ing.
OSX is slowly becoming inconsistent. Consistency in software is a must, otherwise it becomes harder and more complex to use.
nagromme said:
Stella said:
iSync should sync devices you say.
Mobile - it's a device and you sync it with iSync - no issue there.
.mac - not a device - so I'd have to say it's not a job for iSync
ipod - whilst a device, it isn't synced in the true sense, it's all one way, you can't move stuff on your ipod into itunes - verdict; not a job for iSync.
But putting aside technicalities, when isync did all these jobs, it was a nightmare, if I simply wanted to sync .mac, which in my case is about every 20 mins, iSync would search for my mobile which could often be out of range, this was annoying as it took up much needed time. The alternative was to alter my iSync settings each time I synced to suit whatever devices I had connected or in range at that time.
Thank you Apple for simplifying my routine.
.mac is synced automatically whenever I make a change to my idisk, just the way I like it.
My mobile is synced when I choose, just the way I like it.
My ipod is updated automatically whenever it is connected, just the way I like it.
For me this is a great improvement, maybe it isn't for everyone and I appreciate your pain, but don't give me the " it's not logical" stuff, because it is. If you don't like it, learn to use automater.
Why in the hell does everyone.. EVERYONE, ALWAYS say QUIETLY. Do you need a freakin' press release to the entire universe when some piece of software goes up .1? No. I wonder how many MILLIONS of Apple users will see this software update next time SU runs. Millions.. oh yea.. that's really.. shuush, quiet as a mouse. The use of the word "quietly" in any reference to any type of update/upgrade/release/etc in any type of journalism should be regarded as poor journalism. Who's writing this crap.. Elmer Fudd. Be vaway, vaway quiet.MacAztec said:
\m/
Ups85 said:
If Verizon has crippled the phone, then it's not likely to work with iSync. This is intentional since they (Verizon) wants you to use their additional-fee services to do what otherwise would work for free directly between your phone and your computer (e.g. moving pictures from your phone onto your computer).
You gotta remember that just because Apple's site says the phone works, doesn't mean that version of the phone you got through your carrier will work. If T-Mobile or Cingular offers the same phone, it will likely work as advertised. But Verizon...
Cell-phone-number portability works, and with just minor hassles. The number transfer takes about three days - max. Vote with your feet. Leave Verizon, and tell them why. That's what I did.
Surprised that there is this much to say about an iSync update. A bit of a drought when this FYI is the MR headline.
Anyone else notice that the link on the support page is broken?
It links to:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/isync21.html
which gives me a Page Not Found.
D'oh.
Yeah, I reported it at http://www.apple.com/contact/feedback.html
It links to:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/isync21.html
which gives me a Page Not Found.
D'oh.
Yeah, I reported it at http://www.apple.com/contact/feedback.html
It appears that Apple only supports Nokia phones which run Symbian (mostly Series 60). Those are listed here:
http://www.symbian.com/phones/
With a few exceptions, they all have a 6 as the second of four digits. Your 6230's aren't Symbian phones, so probably won't ever iSync, unless Nokia opens up some proprietary info to Apple.
http://www.symbian.com/phones/
With a few exceptions, they all have a 6 as the second of four digits. Your 6230's aren't Symbian phones, so probably won't ever iSync, unless Nokia opens up some proprietary info to Apple.
The delays do not happen on all phones, on some like yours, unfortunately, it does, that is bad implementation in iSync not the potential functionality of iSync that is it trying to deliver..
Have you used automator - its horribly slow ( look on the automator apple discussion forums for more people that agree with me - hopefully 10.4.2 will improve things and very limited.
iSync may be logical for you, but for me its not - just very bad software design, as i've said previously Consistency is very important, but syncing in OSX is not - all other the shop.
Agree to disagree
And yes, i'm very passionate about software usability.
Have you used automator - its horribly slow ( look on the automator apple discussion forums for more people that agree with me - hopefully 10.4.2 will improve things and very limited.
iSync may be logical for you, but for me its not - just very bad software design, as i've said previously Consistency is very important, but syncing in OSX is not - all other the shop.
Agree to disagree
And yes, i'm very passionate about software usability.
fatfish said:
A HUGE step backwards.
Apple didn't fix the biggest problem which is the syncing in Tiger is a train wreck.
Multiple locations to set sync preferences instead of one?
I have to keep the iSync app running all the time so all my devices sync?
I was hoping Apple went back to the drawing board--or even easier, back to Panther--and at least made syncing as good as it used to be.
A HUGE step backwards.
Apple didn't fix the biggest problem which is the syncing in Tiger is a train wreck.
Multiple locations to set sync preferences instead of one?
I have to keep the iSync app running all the time so all my devices sync?
I was hoping Apple went back to the drawing board--or even easier, back to Panther--and at least made syncing as good as it used to be.
A HUGE step backwards.
If its not on there, don't worry
If your phone isnt in that compatible list, then google "(your phone) isync" and something is bound to come up. I just did it for my seimens S66 which isn't a popular phone in the slightest way, and sure enough there was entire forums on it. All I did was follow some instructions and it works perfectly now . I just transferred all of my contacts, which made things alot easier. Give it a try!
If your phone isnt in that compatible list, then google "(your phone) isync" and something is bound to come up. I just did it for my seimens S66 which isn't a popular phone in the slightest way, and sure enough there was entire forums on it. All I did was follow some instructions and it works perfectly now . I just transferred all of my contacts, which made things alot easier. Give it a try!
rxse7en said:
that iSync Agent 1.1.2 being installed on the 6620 should be invisible anywhere in the menu of your 6620. Its very similar to what I experienced on my PC with the latest Nokia PC Suite v6.6 which was release less than 7 days ago. Clearly Nokia is working very closely with Apple with regards to SyncML.
Can anyone with a Nokia 6680 please post, via online speed tests on the Mac using the 6680 via BT or USB (not sure if that is supported with this update) if 3G speeds are now supported?! PLEASE!!!
fatfish said:
hmm .Mac may not be a device but it is part of the central hub idiom, no? Would be nice if any sync done with the mobile via iSync could be posted to .Mac via iCal & AddressBook (bear with me havent switched yet, moving comes 1st bet very soon!!!). What would be perfect is if you iCal, hosted online via .Mac could allow iSync/SyncML synchronizations from your mobile, and when you get home another .Mac sync and the details update your Mac
!CAUTION: someone on another forum has posted, using a SE K750i, USB synching works, along with mounting the MS DUO PRO card inside the phone works as well. BUT upon removal of the USB connection causes a kernal attack. Take this with a grain of salt, but thought some would like to know.
Cheers, and man I really cannot wait to just Micro Soft's ship/t.
PoshSpod said:
I agree, that's the first thing I checked when I heard they updated iSync (finally). Too bad, Nokia 6230 is a great phone.