General Why won't tiny umbrella let me save my new 6.1.2 SHSH blobs?

waa1futs · Feb 20, 2013

I had saved my previous 6.1.1 shsh blobs but now I updated to 6.1.2 and want to save those blobs as well (just in case) but tiny umbrella gives me the following error:

APPLE is NOT signing iPhone4s 6.1.1 SHSH requests anymore. All you can do now is select CYDIA and hope that CYDIA has your SHSH saved. If not, there is nothing you can do

Well... I don't care about 6.1.1 SHSH anymore! I just want to save my 6.1.2

Can anyone explain why TinyUmbrella isn't saving my 6.1.2 blobs?

Grolubao · Feb 20, 2013

waa1futs said:
I had saved my previous 6.1.1 shsh blobs but now I updated to 6.1.2 and want to save those blobs as well (just in case) but tiny umbrella gives me the following error:

Well... I don't care about 6.1.1 SHSH anymore! I just want to save my 6.1.2

Can anyone explain why TinyUmbrella isn't saving my 6.1.2 blobs?

Needs to be update in order to save 6.1.2 blobs

waa1futs · Feb 20, 2013

Grolubao said:
Needs to be update in order to save 6.1.2 blobs

Thank you for the quick reply and info Grolubao

I'm a newbie to shsh blobs so it helps having the community here with knowledgeable people such as yourself.

Grolubao · Feb 20, 2013

waa1futs said:
Thank you for the quick reply and info Grolubao

I'm a newbie to shsh blobs so it helps having the community here with knowledgeable people such as yourself.

You're welcome, no worries

Prime85 · Feb 20, 2013

Doesn't Cydia save them automatically?

Grolubao · Feb 20, 2013

Prime85 said:
Doesn't Cydia save them automatically?

Yes, the blob saving in cydia was re-activated by Saurik

Anyway, it's always good to have a local copy of your blobs

dhlizard · Feb 20, 2013

If you are worried about it, "Redsn0w - Extras - SHSH - New" will save them.

NovemberWhiskey · Feb 20, 2013

Grolubao said:
Needs to be update in order to save 6.1.2 blobs

What needs to be updated?

Grolubao · Feb 20, 2013

NovemberWhiskey said:
What needs to be updated?

TinyUmbrella

Luis2004 · Feb 20, 2013

When I open Tiny Umbrella it tells me I need to update. I press okay, and that's it? It doesn't update and there's no option for me to hit that will update it.

Do I just need to redownload it?

Carlanga · Feb 20, 2013

Grolubao said:
Yes, the blob saving in cydia was re-activated by Saurik

Anyway, it's always good to have a local copy of your blobs

Reactivated? When did it ever stop?

j4zb4 · Feb 20, 2013

There is an app in cydia "iSHSH it"... It's one word... I think its very conveninent... Emails your blobs to you too...

Grolubao · Feb 20, 2013

Carlanga said:
Reactivated? When did it ever stop?

In the beginning they shut down the service since the servers were being slammed.

dhlizard · Feb 20, 2013

Luis2004 said:
When I open Tiny Umbrella it tells me I need to update. I press okay, and that's it? It doesn't update and there's no option for me to hit that will update it.

Do I just need to redownload it?

You have to click on "Visit Blog" to get the update

nepalisherpa · Feb 20, 2013

You guys know that for 4S and 5, SHSH blobs don't mean much as there is no way to downgrade right now.

MuscleNerd said:
Many people are misinformed about saved SHSH blobs.For most devices after iPhone4, they will NOT let you downgrade.

sumsingwong · Feb 20, 2013

nepalisherpa said:
You guys know that for 4S and 5, SHSH blobs don't mean much as there is no way to downgrade right now.

It's not downgrading that's the concern. What's important is having the blob if and when we have to restore the iDevice and Apple isn't signing the old iOS that is jailbreakable. If you didn't save you jailbreakable blob, you're screwed because you will have to update to the latest iOS version that may not be jailbroken after a restore.

nepalisherpa · Feb 20, 2013

sumsingwong said:
It's not downgrading that's the concern. What's important is having the blob if and when we have to restore the iDevice and Apple isn't signing the old iOS that is jailbreakable. If you didn't save you jailbreakable blob, you're screwed because you will have to update to the latest iOS version that may not be jailbroken after a restore.

And, my friend, that is the same concept as "downgrading". When you want to restore to 6.1 but Apple is only signing 6.1.2, then, that's technically called downgrading.

dhlizard · Feb 20, 2013

We save the SHSH in case a method is found for A5, A5+, A6 devices that will work for downgrade.

sumsingwong · Feb 20, 2013

nepalisherpa said:
And, my friend, that is the same concept as "downgrading". When you want to restore to 6.1 but Apple is only signing 6.1.2, then, that's technically called downgrading.

Ummm...no. You have to upgrade first in order to downgrade (unless it's the 1st firmware version for the device). By keeping the blob, you can stay on the same iOS version. An upgrade never happens so a downgrade never happens either. What does this mean? We stay on the same iOS version. The new iOS version never touches the iDevice.

nepalisherpa · Feb 20, 2013

sumsingwong said:
Ummm...no. You have to upgrade first in order to downgrade (unless it's the 1st firmware version for the device). By keeping the blob, you can stay on the same iOS version. An upgrade never happens so a downgrade never happens either. What does this mean? We stay on the same iOS version. The new iOS version never touches the iDevice.

Good luck to you! Even to restore to the same version (after Apple stops signing it), you need SHSH blob, which don't do squat for 4S and newer devices.

sumsingwong · Feb 20, 2013

nepalisherpa said:
Good luck to you! Even to restore to the same version (after Apple stops signing it), you need SHSH blob, which don't do squat for 4S and newer devices.

Is that why I was able to keep my jailbreak on my 4S running iOS 5.x long after Apple stopped signing for anything below 6.x? I was able to restore my 4S and keep it on 5.x (jailbroken) because I saved my blobs to my computer. I didn't update to 6.x until evasi0n was released.

nepalisherpa · Feb 20, 2013

sumsingwong said:
Is that why I was able to keep my jailbreak on my 4S running iOS 5.x long after Apple stopped signing for anything below 6.x? I was able to restore my 4S and keep it on 5.x (jailbroken) because I saved my blobs to my computer. I didn't update to 6.x until evasi0n was released.

5.x.x was a special case. Try doing the same now on your 4S...like going from 6.1.2 to 6.1. Or if you have 6.1, then restore to 6.1.

DerekRod · Feb 20, 2013

nepalisherpa said:
You guys know that for 4S and 5, SHSH blobs don't mean much as there is no way to downgrade right now.

They found a downgrade method for 4S's that was closed hopefully they may find another

TriJetHero · Feb 21, 2013

DerekRod said:
They found a downgrade method for 4S's that was closed hopefully they may find another

+1

We had the same discussion here when that happened with the 5.0 release, no downgrading, many were
yelling no use for SHSH's anymore…until the Dev's came up with a new method of downgrading from 5.x.

So it is wise to save the SHSH's anyway so as to have them if and when the dev's get a downgrade for 6.x

Yes Cydia saves them automatically and seems a bit faster in displaying them as i now already see 6.1.2 on my devices, but having them as a local backup is good practice as well.

DerekRod · Feb 21, 2013

TriJetHero said:
+1

We had the same discussion here when that happened with the 5.0 release, no downgrading, many were
yelling no use for SHSH's anymoreuntil the Dev's came up with a new method of downgrading from 5.x.

So it is wise to save the SHSH's anyway so as to have them if and when the dev's get a downgrade for 6.x

Yes Cydia saves them automatically and seems a bit faster in displaying them as i now already see 6.1.2 on my devices, but having them as a local backup is good practice as well.

Also since they changed to the lightning connector they're may be a chance that another bootrom exploit will be found again so always save your blobs better to be safe then sorry

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