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Its a little scary that the "Apple is the only product I will buy" "No thank you Windows" and "Apple makes the best products over Dell", etc. that really fuels Apple in continuing to do what they do and not spending time to really fix these issues in quality control. They may be or have been the best, but at the same time, they can afford to "cut corners" and have angry consumers that still buy their products.

even with issues or expensive or angry, yes! for me apple is the best, is not just a product is a way to see some things in life; but well I hope that kind of vision dont change in the next years... we dont want an angry Steve!
 
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Staryfyre, can you look at the data you posted above and make sure you didn't list the stats backwards? Everything you said following the two bullet points suggests the 2.6GHz had slightly longer batter life, but those two bullet points have the 2.3GHz machine outlasting the 2.6GHz by 1.5+ hours...

Not backwards. The 2.3 had much more fluctuation in terms of the battery estimates, whereas the 2.6 was more consistent with the varying amounts of tasks I performed on it. Maybe if I just stuck to web browsing without flash the 2.3 may have gotten more battery life, but the moment you max out brightness, battery-life has greater impact on the 2.6. Play a youtube video, the 2.3 had much bigger impacts. It seemed almost like the 2.6 was more conservative.



Sorry Starfyre, I m like johnnylarue I don't understand your point : even thought there is less fluctation on the 2.6 Ghz (6,5 hours), there is still a 1,5h difference your test which seems to be representative of a classical use, no ?
 
with 200$ difference i would go 2.6ghz but cant find in stock anywhere online..checking B&H for weeks and still out of stock.
where can i order 2.6Ghz 16GB model which is 2799$
 
with 200$ difference i would go 2.6ghz but cant find in stock anywhere online..checking B&H for weeks and still out of stock.
where can i order 2.6Ghz 16GB model which is 2799$

If you go with a 1TB they have them in the store , they are not listed anywhere on line but they keep the max. config in store for up selling reasons. I bought one Saturday and replaced it yesterday but had nothing to do with yellow screen or any of that stuff. I had some repair permission issues and turns out my laptop was never registered in Apples own system on production so it could not be seen by there servers and could not be repaired. They had another one in store and it is as good as the first one with great screen and no issues.
 
Sorry Starfyre, I m like johnnylarue I don't understand your point : even thought there is less fluctation on the 2.6 Ghz (6,5 hours), there is still a 1,5h difference your test which seems to be representative of a classical use, no ?

Put it simply, using percentages. Both laptops are fairly consistent in the rate that that 100% decreases as more battery is consumed despite the same tasks being performed.

The time remaining on the 2.6 says X hours, the time on the 2.3 says Y hours... Y is greater than X initially. As both percentages go down the X and Y fluctuates depending on whats happing. (i.e. when opening the web browser and decreasing brightness to 50% from 100%, battery shows 10 hours. X fluctuates too, less than 10 hours though). Over time, even though percentages still go down, battery life appears to change for up and down (generally down for the 2.6). However, at some point (playing of the video and browsing the web, combined with running a few benchmarks) the 2.6 ends up ahead by a few percent compared to the 2.3. The lower it goes, the less fluctuation in time is shown and I observed less battery life remaining on 2.3 than 2.6.
 
Put it simply, using percentages. Both laptops are fairly consistent in the rate that that 100% decreases as more battery is consumed despite the same tasks being performed.

The time remaining on the 2.6 says X hours, the time on the 2.3 says Y hours... Y is greater than X initially. As both percentages go down the X and Y fluctuates depending on whats happing. (i.e. when opening the web browser and decreasing brightness to 50% from 100%, battery shows 10 hours. X fluctuates too, less than 10 hours though). Over time, even though percentages still go down, battery life appears to change for up and down (generally down for the 2.6). However, at some point (playing of the video and browsing the web, combined with running a few benchmarks) the 2.6 ends up ahead by a few percent compared to the 2.3. The lower it goes, the less fluctuation in time is shown and I observed less battery life remaining on 2.3 than 2.6.

Gotcha!

I realize this is purely anecdotal data--it's not really a fair comparison unless you are making both computers do exactly the same tasks for the same amount of time--but it's nonetheless still valuable in supporting the theory that, in real world use, the difference in battery life between the two models is negligible.
 
I have both the 2.3 and 2.6 (16 / 1 TB / 750M). I am performing some tests to compare them -- performing real-world tasks, looking at the heat generated and the battery life. I'm recording my results in an Excel spreadsheet and would like to post them. Can anyone suggest a hosting site?

FYI -- I'm capturing the "battery life" (% remaining and the hours remaining); iStatPro CPU and GPU temps, and the fan speed.
 
Great idea to compare them! Looking forward to see the results!

You could use a google doc spreadsheet and just share the link...
 
Great idea to compare them! Looking forward to see the results!

You could use a google doc spreadsheet and just share the link...

+1 !

StarFyre said:
he lower it goes, the less fluctuation in time is shown and I observed less battery life remaining on 2.3 than 2.6.
Sorry to be low brow but why do you care so much the battery indicator, if it s accurate or stable ? As for me i care about the time i can use my mac without searching for my charger, but maybe i' m missing something...
 
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Yes, it's accessible... but at the moment there is nothing but the headline in it. :confused:
 
I continuously ran the 2.3 and 2.6 until the battery drained (16 / 1 TB / 750M). These corroborate Starfyre's observations.

Here are my own observations - based on my personal usage (folks will have higher battery life than me):

  • the heat (what I feel on the bottom of the laptop and also the palm rests) felt the same on both machines
  • 2.3 gave me about 45 minutes more of battery life for my usage (2.3: 6 hrs vs. 2.6: 5 hrs 15 mins)
  • Fan speeds were pretty equal throughout (2000 rpm on left and right)
  • 2.3 takes longer to cool down after intensive tasks
  • I ran subsequent test with Handbrake: the fans were about 5500 rpm on right & 6000 on left (similar on both machines); 2.3 temps ran about 4 to 6 F degrees higher than 2.6; the 2.3 took slightly longer to cool down

This is still a work in progress - I still need to finish entering data for 2.3:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3KSNW4vEOBoX2ItX1Zhdk9LM0U/edit?usp=sharing

My set-up / tasks:
  • Itunes, Evernote, Chrome (4 to 5 tabs open), Google Drive, Adobe Reader, Microsoft Outlook, Microsfot Word; ScanSnap, Neat
  • Brightness: 75%
  • Bluetooth: On (with pair, audio streaming to Big Jambox)
 
great ! Thanks for this test.
Could you also give us your qualitative impressions on the 2 models and tell us which model you would keep and use on a daily basis ?
 
2.0 Ghz processor

If people are getting the 2.3 Ghz over the 2.6 Ghz to increase battery life, why not go for the 2.0 Ghz using the same logic (assuming no need for the discrete graphics card)? Are there any missing features/functionality in the 2.0 Ghz CPU?

Has anyone done any real-world testing of bettery life on the 2.0 Ghz version?
 
I continuously ran the 2.3 and 2.6 until the battery drained (16 / 1 TB / 750M). These corroborate Starfyre's observations.

Here are my own observations - based on my personal usage (folks will have higher battery life than me):

  • the heat (what I feel on the bottom of the laptop and also the palm rests) felt the same on both machines
  • 2.3 gave me about 45 minutes more of battery life for my usage (2.3: 6 hrs vs. 2.6: 5 hrs 15 mins)
  • Fan speeds were pretty equal throughout (2000 rpm on left and right)
  • 2.3 takes longer to cool down after intensive tasks
  • I ran subsequent test with Handbrake: the fans were about 5500 rpm on right & 6000 on left (similar on both machines); 2.3 temps ran about 4 to 6 F degrees higher than 2.6; the 2.3 took slightly longer to cool down

This is still a work in progress - I still need to finish entering data for 2.3:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3KSNW4vEOBoX2ItX1Zhdk9LM0U/edit?usp=sharing

My set-up / tasks:
  • Itunes, Evernote, Chrome (4 to 5 tabs open), Google Drive, Adobe Reader, Microsoft Outlook, Microsfot Word; ScanSnap, Neat
  • Brightness: 75%
  • Bluetooth: On (with pair, audio streaming to Big Jambox)

FYI your chart is no good (for cpu temps) because you are measuring CPU HEATSINK which is the physical heatsink temp and NOT the CPU Die temp (which is the actual cpu, and the temp that matters)... CPU Heatsink temp is NOT CPU temp... aka worthless measurement.

Download iStat Menu to get an accurate CPU temp reading... I don't know why people keep using iStat Pro...
 
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