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Mac Pro EFI and SMC Firmware Updates

Origin said:
I'm running RAID0 too !
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i think we found our problem, this is stupid

to install windows i had to unplug my 2 raid drives, i jsut inserted the cp disk withot installing bootcamp (can't install on raid) and after 10 secs the win xp install started

after that i replugged the raid drives and i can now switch boot disks as with bootcamp... strange huh?

but now this update... i mean, the ycan't expect a speeduser to just throw away his raid and reinstall to a single disk.

and if this is not possible( raid update) the yshould clearly start stating this in their installation instructions and notes, not the small print or some hard to find support site to hide the issue
 
bigandy said:
You can't boot XP from CD on a Mac. You can't you can't you can't.
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Yes you can.

I installed XP on a new HDD with only one large partition (NTFS) without the 200mb EFI partition from OS X. I didn't use Bootcamp at all.

So far, everything's working fine and I can boot between OS X and XP with no problems.
 
atticus1178 said:
that is what mine did and was fine, it popped up a windows saying the update was complete, check your firmware version in System Profiler
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Nope, nothing. Still 1.7f6. I'll try unplugging devices.
 
I unplugged everything and that made it work.

Network Cable
USB devices (3)
Firewire400 (1)
Firewire800 (1)

I didn't think to unplug them one at a time to control for where the problem was. Oh well. If your drives comes out and snaps back in right away without updating the firmware. Remove all devices before rebooting.
 
carletonmusic said:
I unplugged everything and that made it work.

Network Cable
USB devices (3)
Firewire400 (1)
Firewire800 (1)

I didn't think to unplug them one at a time to control for where the problem was. Oh well. If your drives comes out and snaps back in right away without updating the firmware. Remove all devices before rebooting.
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My drive came out, and stayed out the entire time the bar was progressing, then it went back in and the maching restarted.

EDIT: I have Keyboard and Mouse ONLY hooked up to the computer.
 
carletonmusic said:
I unplugged everything and that made it work.

Network Cable
USB devices (3)
Firewire400 (1)
Firewire800 (1)

I didn't think to unplug them one at a time to control for where the problem was. Oh well. If your drives comes out and snaps back in right away without updating the firmware. Remove all devices before rebooting.
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are you running in raid as well?
i'm starting to think that the raid is software and maybe the firmware update can't load since it probably runs before the software raid drivers are loaded for the 2 drives?
any expert here?
 
Digidesign said:
Yes you can.

I installed XP on a new HDD with only one large partition (NTFS) without the 200mb EFI partition from OS X. I didn't use Bootcamp at all.

So far, everything's working fine and I can boot between OS X and XP with no problems.
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That's really interesting! You just held "c" at boot to load up the XP CD?

I'm guessing you still needed to use a "slipstreamed" XP SP2 CD with the SATA drivers installed so it doesn't run in dog slow PIO mode

Where the hell did you find chipset drivers, graphics card drivers, sound card drivers etc? :confused:
 
trying a new nethod now, installing osx on a forth single drive; single partition, and gonna set it as boot disk, i will try to update the firmware from there,
i'll post the result in 15 mins or so when osx is reinstalled, fingers crossed.
 
syrianos said:
i think we found our problem, this is stupid

to install windows i had to unplug my 2 raid drives, i jsut inserted the cp disk withot installing bootcamp (can't install on raid) and after 10 secs the win xp install started

after that i replugged the raid drives and i can now switch boot disks as with bootcamp... strange huh?

but now this update... i mean, the ycan't expect a speeduser to just throw away his raid and reinstall to a single disk.

and if this is not possible( raid update) the yshould clearly start stating this in their installation instructions and notes, not the small print or some hard to find support site to hide the issue
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Okay, finally I CONFIRM that the software raid used by Mac OS X is NOT compatible with the EFI upgrades :( ... too bad.

Why ? Because i just finished to install a fresh copy of Mac OS X on my 400 Gig "DATA" drive made the upgrade with this distribution ... and it worked like a charm !

So ...
 
Origin said:
Okay, finally I CONFIRM that the software raid used by Mac OS X is NOT compatible with the EFI upgrades :( ... too bad.

Why ? Because i just finished to install a fresh copy of Mac OS X on my 400 Gig "DATA" drive made the upgrade with this distribution ... and it worked like a charm !

So ...
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lol, i guess we think alike when it comes to problem solving, u gave me hope that it will work for me as well, this raid is causing too much problems, but i do like the speed and starup time of 20 secs or less... dillemma, keep raid or go back to 4 sepperate disks?
 
nihilisticmonk said:
That's really interesting! You just held "c" at boot to load up the XP CD?

I'm guessing you still needed to use a "slipstreamed" XP SP2 CD with the SATA drivers installed so it doesn't run in dog slow PIO mode

Where the hell did you find chipset drivers, graphics card drivers, sound card drivers etc? :confused:
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Clarification:
I made a MacPro driver CD from Bootcamp, and a slipstreamed XP SP2 CD. The slipstreamed XP SP2 CD boots up just fine holding "c" at boot.
 
no raid supported

CONFIRMED

if u use raid, u'll need to have a single disk with osx to boot from to be able to install the EFI firmware update!!

the progression bar just appeared and i get the ok symbol after reboot, next is the smc update and then switching back to my fast raid :D

shame though u need to go through all this hastle, really...
 
I hoped that this update should have throw away the X1900 XT Bug with my 23" ACD while booting XP ... but no, still here ... grrr :/
 
topgunn said:
Not everyone will want to install BOTH updates.
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Why not? Some people may want to continue having either fan or startup issues?

MacinDoc said:
What about a firmware update for the 24" iMac?
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For what?
 
Origin said:
YES YOU CAN OF COURSE, I did NOT used Bootcamp application to install my MacPro Under XP, just put the CD and go ;)
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I didn't even have to install XP. I just took my boot drive out of my PC, and put it into slot 4 on the MP. System recognized the disk, and booted fine. After driver updates, XP works great!
 
atticus1178 said:
yeah, just during the update, they blast off for about 10 seconds, it actually sounds like a small airplane taking off (thankfully my mac pro is secured between my desk and the wall :) )

but NO, the fans are not loud all the time now, they sound just fine, but after the update (according to temperature monitor) they are about 10 degrees F cooler now at idle
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That is normal during the installation and prior to the reboot.
 
syrianos said:
i have the exact same problem, i can't get update to work, i unplugged all the usb and firewire cables etc. nothing, beeeeep, reboot, grey screen, apple and circle for normal boot... frustration.

i'm running startup disk in sriped raid, can this influence the update?
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Well well, I did not know you could boot from a raid set. Live and learn, this is great news, your bood drive can use all 4 drives stripped and mirrored, kool!!!!
 
atticus1178 said:
but NO, the fans are not loud all the time now, they sound just fine, but after the update (according to temperature monitor) they are about 10 degrees F cooler now at idle
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What do you use to monitor the temps? I haven't found anything that works yet.

What problems *do* these EFI and SMC updates fix, exactly? BTW, according to the SMC update description, it will update it to 1.7f8, while according to System Profiler I already have that version. Must apply to to the first batch of models only? :confused:

Edit: firmware update successfully applied, no SMC update in SWU for me.
 
syrianos said:
i have the exact same problem, i can't get update to work, i unplugged all the usb and firewire cables etc. nothing, beeeeep, reboot, grey screen, apple and circle for normal boot... frustration.

i'm running startup disk in sriped raid, can this influence the update?
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I have the same problem... can't update...

3 disk striped array for mac OS
system came with a 7300Gt, but I got my upgrade to the X1900XT...

I can't think of anything I have done personally to cause the update to fail...
 
what the heck!!?? my dvd drive and secondary drive won't open and aren't reconized at ALL now!!!!???:mad: :confused:
 
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