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so i expect the new MBP's to be either meaningless speed bumps (RAM/HD) or Santa Rosa with a price increase. The actual speed increase for a machine used mostly as a desktop replacement will be not significant to me, as well as battery life, boot up times, LED displays.

Therefore i thing i will skip Santa Rosa and get something cheaper for now:

either a refurb MB white 2.0GHz, 1 GB, 80 GB for $999 + $200 to upgrade RAM and HD

a new MB white 2.16GHz, 1GB , 120 GB for $1199 + $100 for RAM

a refurb MBP 2.16 GHz, 1 GB, 120 HD for hopefully $1400 + $50 for RAM

so my choices will be $1200, $1300 or $1450

i don't game, have a 24" screen. what would you recommend? also does anybody know if there is an edu discount on refurbs as well?
 
Apple loves the fact that they can add a myriad of new improved stuff and maintain their very carefully chosen pricepoints. I know the price of the mini went up with a move to intel, but that was warranted, since the replacement completely obliterated its predecessor performance wise.
 
Apple loves the fact that they can add a myriad of new improved stuff and maintain their very carefully chosen pricepoints. I know the price of the mini went up with a move to intel, but that was warranted, since the replacement completely obliterated its predecessor performance wise.

Yup yup. It went from Super duper crap to just standard level crap.
 
I viewed that as kind of a mixed bag, since it got the better CPU, but a worse GPU. It makes for a solid (and adorable ;) ) basic office machine though.
 
I have nothing more to say, until Penryn & faster than magnetic recording SSD drives are an option, LED 2k res. MBP 17in arrive next year (well maybe I can't keep my butt shut for that long, lol)!

Except for, LMFAO; this waiting of post PC SR announcements is almost as good as forever waiting for PB G5 rumors of next Tuesday. Whoever said the switch to Intel CPU's would change Apple's laggard updating schedule was sorely mistaken....the more things change, the more they stay the same at Apple (except for the stock price of course ;) ).

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New MacBook Pros coming as early as Tuesday


Apple may fart on tuesday, think secret has learned.

If Apple doesn't fart on tuesday, the gas will start to back up and they will eventually fart at some point.

What's unclear right now is when it comes time for Apple to fart, we don't know if they will fart twice or fart three times. If they fart three times, that would be nice. It would also be nice if they fart on Tuesday. That would make our guessing good. But if they don't fart on tuesday, and no one smells it on tuesday, then we still cant be wrong because we said apple would fart "as early as tuesday."

We have no specs on the fart, or even the size of the fart (15 inchers or 17 inchers). The only thing we know is that ONCE BEANS GO IN -> GAS MUST COME OUT!

So. ThinkSecret believes Apple will fart at some point this month but we have no idea if it will be 2 farts, three farts, if it will smell like poo or if it will be big.

Thanks

RYAN KATZ

Death, taxes & Apple farts, lol...classic.

WTF, we have pg2. & pg 1 rumors about the same farting, come on MR, fold one or the other rumor into one forum...you can't have it both ways, sheesh!


Cross referencing, duplicitous MR's forum threads pg1. & pg2 :D

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/3699917/

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3699917#post3699917
 
Hmmm...
Geforce 8700M for the new MBPs???
Dammit, I can't wait anymore! Steve, if you're reading this, please send me a personal message! I'm Begging You! Please tell me the specs of the Santa Rosa Macbook Pro!
 
Hmmm...
Geforce 8700M for the new MBPs???
Dammit, I can't wait anymore! Steve, if you're reading this, please send me a personal message! I'm Begging You! Please tell me the specs of the Santa Rosa Macbook Pro!

An 8700m would be great. I won't buy anything with the 8600gt. I'm hoping on an apple machine with at least an 8700. Desktop or laptop
 
An 8700m would be great. I won't buy anything with the 8600gt. I'm hoping on an apple machine with at least an 8700. Desktop or laptop

There's no such thing as a Geforce 8700, and a Geforce 7600GT would be a big upgrade from what their notebooks use now, let alone an 8600GT.
 
There's no such thing as a Geforce 8700, and a Geforce 7600GT would be a big upgrade from what their notebooks use now, let alone an 8600GT.
The 7600GT is a small bump over the X1600. It's not as great as going to the Radeon HD or 8 Series though.
 
Hmm...no mention in the big tech sites about it anywhere, though there's a "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend" type of post in a message board acting like one will be announced next week.

But regardless, even a Geforce 7600GT would be a huge upgrade from the low-end part they've been sticking in there for the last year.
 
But regardless, even a Geforce 7600GT would be a huge upgrade from the low-end part they've been sticking in there for the last year.
...the 7600GT is just a higher clocked 7600 which would fall into the same mid-range line as the X1600. It's barely newer then the X1600 line...
 
Hmm...no mention in the big tech sites about it anywhere, though there's a "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend" type of post in a message board acting like one will be announced next week.

But regardless, even a Geforce 7600GT would be a huge upgrade from the low-end part they've been sticking in there for the last year.

It's been written in Nvidia's own drivers for windows Vista. It also appeared on Clevo's information page for the D900. It exists.
 
The card on the new 17" MPBs is a 8600, not a 8800.

Oops, did I let that slip?

And the 15"ers? Or don't you know? (assuming I believe you)

The Go 7600 GT would probably give a smallish improvement over the X1600. But I saw (can't remember where) NVIDIA presentation slides suggesting that the 8600M GT is at least twice as fast as the 7600GT. In reall games. Like 3-4 times faster in benchies.

So, the 8600M GT should perform about 3 times better than the X1600 I reckon.

Still hoping for a 512MB 8600M GT in the top 15"er. Infact, I am now gonna change my sig. I was hoping for a HD 2600, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.
 
And the 15"ers? Or don't you know? (assuming I believe you)

The Go 7600 GT would probably give a smallish improvement over the X1600. But I saw (can't remember where) NVIDIA presentation slides suggesting that the 8600M GT is at least twice as fast as the 7600GT. In reall games. Like 3-4 times faster in benchies.

So, the 8600M GT should perform about 3 times better than the X1600 I reckon.

Still hoping for a 512MB 8600M GT in the top 15"er. Infact, I am now gonna change my sig. I was hoping for a HD 2600, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

Haven't heard anything about the lower-end models, just the high-end 17". It's only (less than) 2 days to the announcement now anyway, not long to wait.
 
Haven't heard anything about the lower-end models, just the high-end 17". It's only (less than) 2 days to the announcement now anyway, not long to wait.

If I don't get my 15" 2.4 GHz SR MBP with 8600M GT, I'm holding YOU personally responsible.

Well, if past models are anything to go by, the top 15" and 17" have had the same specs, except for the screen, and maybe an extra USB port.
 
Well, if past models are anything to go by, the top 15" and 17" have had the same specs, except for the screen, and maybe an extra USB port.

Ah, good. That's what I was wondering as I was reading your and his/her posts. Were they the same specs even in the PowerBook days?
 
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