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Apple Seeds Another New OS X 10.5.7 Build
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Probably the same reason my customers buy Sony, HPs and Dells with Blu-ray. I snagged a copy of Dark Knight from the media department and have it playing on a nice 17" laptop with an Altec Lansing speakers. Draws quite a crowd. $1200.
If I could demo that on an iMac or a MacBook pro...
Can we just have Snow Leopard already???
Actually I'd rather delay the release of Snow Leopard until they get it right.
Actually I'd rather delay the release of Snow Leopard until they get it right.
- The 13" MacBook screen supports 1280 x 800 resolution natively. That's almost 2X the resolution what a standard definition DVD outputs.
- The 15" and 17" MBP have higher screen resolutions than the MB at 1440 x 900 and 1920 x 1200 respectively.
- The 17" MBP at 1920 x 1200 is 1:1 pixel perfect with Blu-ray.
- Standard definition DVD is 720 x 480.
- Blu-ray high defintion is 1920 x 1080.
So why wouldn't you want Blu-ray? You already have higher def screens than what DVD offers.
Why would anyone want to take a lower res picture and scale it up to fit the screen? This is equivalent to buying a high def TV and only viewing standard def material on it. Which, BTW, is exactly what Mac users are stuck with at the moment.
Also, Blu-ray has a progressive picture. DVD is interlaced and has to be manipulated to display on a progressive LCD such as those on a Mac.
Just a quick look on HP's site shows that a Blu-ray drive adds a whopping $100 on a desktop system. So cost is no longer an excuse. Licensing issues? Every PC manufacturer offers Blu-ray so surely Apple's lawyers can figure it out. There really are no more excuses for Apple not to have Blu-ray.
All apps I use with built-in software update mechanisms check automatically. If you really feel the need for a Linux hands-down victory, you'll need to think of something else.
Blu-Ray is FAAAAAAAAAAR from dead. Since I got my PS3 last year the movies I bought are 80% bluray and 20% DVD, and frankly I got those DVDs only because they are old movies which don't come in the blu flavor. HOWEVER, bluray movies are best watched on a big screen, 40"+ LCDTV or plasma TV. I'm not saying the screen on MBP/ACD is not good enough, but bluray movies on these screens are a bit overkill for me. Yes they sure look nicer but unless the drive and movies become cheaper I don't think many people would go for that.
1. They don't want to.
2. It cuts into iTunes.
And that is all that matters. You'll need to change their perception for it to ever happen.
End of discussion. This thread is about software that will actually happen.
hmmm.. looks interesting, i think i will keep my eye on this. thanks.
Changes since the last developer seed include fixes for several issues with preference pane
i hope this addresses my issue of clicking back and all the views
are messed up. LIKE THIS
What Bugs?
It always makes me laugh when someone has an issue with their specific set up and assumes this is universally experienced 'bug' with the OS. Most issues with Microsoft Office tend to be down to corrupt (normally free or illegally downloaded) fonts.
System tweaks and tinkers also cause issues.
Do you not think that if EVERYONE was experiencing the issues discussed Apple would have responded to them sooner. I'm running 10.5.6 on a 24" iMac 3.06 24" - not a single issue. Machine runs quickly. Having said that, all my software is legal, I've not tinkered with the system in any way and use the OS as I suspect Apple think it should be used.
It doesn't crash, it sleeps just fine and has no wireless issues. I run the full Adobe Creative Suite II, Aperture, Live in Garageband and Microsoft Office - no issues, no crashes, no hangs.
I don't believe I'm in the minority, but having let software update do it's thing in the background over the last few years and not tinkered with things, 'fixed permissions' or run terminal line commands everything seems to be just fine. So these universal errors that Apple need to fix, seem to me to be specific to different system configurations (both hard and software) and there are so many possible combinations that surely apple couldn't be expected to test every single variant?
Universal problems - the mobileme site was appalling, apple were very quick to respond. No push notification - apple tell us it's being worked on. Cloud syncing. People actually complain that this can take up to five minutes to receive email. I just can't comprehend the amount of negative press. It seems that now apple are finally experiencing large scale success, it's open season to bash them as they're now 'another greedy corporate monster' - of course they are. They're a company struggling to survive in a global recession. Apple aren't knowingly going to release something they know will have a universal fault, it would hurt the business, their reputation and future sales.
10.5.7 will be just another service release fixing a few more issues and polishing system performance sooner. My windows vista machine restarts itself randomly or completely freezes at least twice a week. My mac OS hasn't crashed in six years. Is 10.5 really a buggy mess? Cause that's not the experience of anyone in my office, or any of the kids I know with shiny new macbooks.
It always makes me laugh when someone has an issue with their specific set up and assumes this is universally experienced 'bug' with the OS. Most issues with Microsoft Office tend to be down to corrupt (normally free or illegally downloaded) fonts.
System tweaks and tinkers also cause issues.
Do you not think that if EVERYONE was experiencing the issues discussed Apple would have responded to them sooner. I'm running 10.5.6 on a 24" iMac 3.06 24" - not a single issue. Machine runs quickly. Having said that, all my software is legal, I've not tinkered with the system in any way and use the OS as I suspect Apple think it should be used.
It doesn't crash, it sleeps just fine and has no wireless issues. I run the full Adobe Creative Suite II, Aperture, Live in Garageband and Microsoft Office - no issues, no crashes, no hangs.
I don't believe I'm in the minority, but having let software update do it's thing in the background over the last few years and not tinkered with things, 'fixed permissions' or run terminal line commands everything seems to be just fine. So these universal errors that Apple need to fix, seem to me to be specific to different system configurations (both hard and software) and there are so many possible combinations that surely apple couldn't be expected to test every single variant?
Universal problems - the mobileme site was appalling, apple were very quick to respond. No push notification - apple tell us it's being worked on. Cloud syncing. People actually complain that this can take up to five minutes to receive email. I just can't comprehend the amount of negative press. It seems that now apple are finally experiencing large scale success, it's open season to bash them as they're now 'another greedy corporate monster' - of course they are. They're a company struggling to survive in a global recession. Apple aren't knowingly going to release something they know will have a universal fault, it would hurt the business, their reputation and future sales.
10.5.7 will be just another service release fixing a few more issues and polishing system performance sooner. My windows vista machine restarts itself randomly or completely freezes at least twice a week. My mac OS hasn't crashed in six years. Is 10.5 really a buggy mess? Cause that's not the experience of anyone in my office, or any of the kids I know with shiny new macbooks.
I see what you mean. But my Office 2004 is working fine even after I installed 10.5.6. I used the Combo-update to install 10.5.6, maybe that helped?
And that's exactly why BR is DEAD. A tiny fraction of the world's population has a 40" screen, or even plans to buy one. I myself have a 32" LCD, and am more than happy with the normal DVD discs or a few HD shows here and there. BR's adoption rate is so dragged that it can't even be compared to music CDs or DVDs in the past.
Again, Apple will only install BR when it becomes, in the long run, the sole choice for media discs...and this is not gonna happen in at least 3 years from now. Unless you wanna have them for deluxe backup discs, of course...
Can you try something for me? Just run Office 2004's install disc and its setup assistant...check whether it goes past the license agreement, please...then I will know if I should look elsewhere for a solution.
Both HP & Apple Agreed
Both HP & Apple agreed that it should have worked. It worked with 10.4.11 up to 10.5.5, what was different with 10.5.6?
Both HP & Apple agreed that it should have worked. It worked with 10.4.11 up to 10.5.5, what was different with 10.5.6?
I've found a solution...I logged in as root and was able to open the setup assistant and install Office 2004 again...now don't ask me why this happened (a permissions problem perhaps?)
and out of the 75 blu-rays I have purchased 6 or 8 have came with digital downloads, so that is still not a solution
I've found a solution...I logged in as root and was able to open the setup assistant and install Office 2004 again...now don't ask me why this happened (a permissions problem perhaps?)
Glad you got it to work!
I am running as an Administrator user, so that might be the case.
...Oh BTW, that's why Apple has named the APPLICATIONS folder the APPLICATIONS folder, you're supposed to put your APPLICATIONS into this folder.
Go tell that Apple - see developer software, just to name one. You want more?
So you don't have folders in the application folder (for bundled applications, like iWork and iLife) which is fine, but some people do... and since Software Update skips these folders... no updates will be installed (not without a manual check / which is what people might expect from Apple).
Sure, but that's why I said: "and this without installing a third party application"Axemantitan said:
You don't understand the issue - it's not whether the 13.3" screen is ideal for seeing full 1080p quality.
The issue is that we're buying BD movies for our home systems, and we can play them on our Windows machines just fine.
Apples can't play them, though. Are we supposed to buy both BD discs and DVD discs just because of Apple's pig-headedness? Or are we supposed to buy Windows systems from other companies if we want to play BD discs? (The latter works for me.
)By the way, I'd rather watch a 1920x1080 BD movie scaled *down* to fit the 13.3" 1280x800 screen, rather than the 640x480 (or sometimes 720x480) DVD movie scaled *up* to fit!
And, of course, the video professionals and amateurs would like to author Blu-ray titles on their Macs, but that's another discussion entirely.
Perhaps you should look and see that 10 of the top 16 bestselling TVs at Amazon are 40" or larger.... In fact, 6 of the top 16 are 52" sets. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/172659/ref=pd_ts_e_nav
And, while you're at Amazon, notice that 3 of the top 5 selling "DVD" players are actually Blu-ray players! http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/172514/ref=pd_ts_e_nav
Fortunately, your opinion doesn't match up with the facts about Blu-ray.
Blu-ray Sales on the Rise in Japan
March 6, 2009 by Josh Dreuth
According to a recent report from GfK Marketing Services Japan Ltd (GfK Japan), sales of Blu-ray Disc recorders increased by over 800% last year in Japan. In 2007, only 160,000 Blu-ray Disc recorders were sold in the country, but that number jumped to 1.34 Million units in 2008, representing a huge uptake in adoption of the high definition format.
The overall optical disc market decreased by 1%, but DVD recorders dipped by 26% as the format gives up ground to Blu-ray. Last year, Blu-ray recorders represented 37% of all optical recorder sales (53% of revenue), and that number is expected to grow substantially this year.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2469
March 6, 2009 by Josh Dreuth
According to a recent report from GfK Marketing Services Japan Ltd (GfK Japan), sales of Blu-ray Disc recorders increased by over 800% last year in Japan. In 2007, only 160,000 Blu-ray Disc recorders were sold in the country, but that number jumped to 1.34 Million units in 2008, representing a huge uptake in adoption of the high definition format.
The overall optical disc market decreased by 1%, but DVD recorders dipped by 26% as the format gives up ground to Blu-ray. Last year, Blu-ray recorders represented 37% of all optical recorder sales (53% of revenue), and that number is expected to grow substantially this year.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2469
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Blu-ray is being adopted faster than DVD
January 3, 2009 by Mike Ferro
It was a stellar holiday season for Blu-ray with movies like The Dark Knight breaking records. According to two research firms, Blu-ray movies and players were top on most holiday shopper's list. This is pretty much what I predicted a few months back when I compared Blu-ray as this year's Tickle me Elmo.
According to DVDFile, surveys conducted by both, Greenfield and Zogby International, Blu-ray players and movies were ranked high on holiday shopper's lists. In the survey conducted by Greenfield, it also indicated that Blu-ray players were number one on the list of HD TV owners. The survey conducted by Zogby revealed similar results ranking Blu-ray players as second on the list after HD TV.
I indicated that there will be a strong correlation between HD TV adoption and Blu-ray, and these two studies definitely show this to be true. Blu-ray sales are starting to eat away at DVD sales, similarly to how DVD sales ate away at VHS sales over 10 years ago. According to Richard Greenfield, analyst for Pali Capital, indicated that results for 2008 are expected to show a decrease in DVD sales by 6%. This is in contrast to original predictions of flat sales for the year.
Greenfield also indicated that the adoption rate for Blu-ray is much faster than DVD was. He states, "Interestingly, two years into the standard DVD cycle, the DVD installed base was only 1.2 million and players were not nearly as inexpensive as $129 [BD players were] on Black Friday." As indicated before, Blu-ray sales are twice of that of DVDs at the same point in its life.
I predict that the Blu-ray adoption rate is actually much faster than twice that of DVDs when you consider out of the two years on the market, only one year was really spent as the sole format. The first year was spent battling it out with HD-DVD splintering the market in half while leaving many on the fence. This holiday definitely showed that consumers have made the jump to Blu-ray.
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.cfm?ID=18670
January 3, 2009 by Mike Ferro
It was a stellar holiday season for Blu-ray with movies like The Dark Knight breaking records. According to two research firms, Blu-ray movies and players were top on most holiday shopper's list. This is pretty much what I predicted a few months back when I compared Blu-ray as this year's Tickle me Elmo.
According to DVDFile, surveys conducted by both, Greenfield and Zogby International, Blu-ray players and movies were ranked high on holiday shopper's lists. In the survey conducted by Greenfield, it also indicated that Blu-ray players were number one on the list of HD TV owners. The survey conducted by Zogby revealed similar results ranking Blu-ray players as second on the list after HD TV.
I indicated that there will be a strong correlation between HD TV adoption and Blu-ray, and these two studies definitely show this to be true. Blu-ray sales are starting to eat away at DVD sales, similarly to how DVD sales ate away at VHS sales over 10 years ago. According to Richard Greenfield, analyst for Pali Capital, indicated that results for 2008 are expected to show a decrease in DVD sales by 6%. This is in contrast to original predictions of flat sales for the year.
Greenfield also indicated that the adoption rate for Blu-ray is much faster than DVD was. He states, "Interestingly, two years into the standard DVD cycle, the DVD installed base was only 1.2 million and players were not nearly as inexpensive as $129 [BD players were] on Black Friday." As indicated before, Blu-ray sales are twice of that of DVDs at the same point in its life.
I predict that the Blu-ray adoption rate is actually much faster than twice that of DVDs when you consider out of the two years on the market, only one year was really spent as the sole format. The first year was spent battling it out with HD-DVD splintering the market in half while leaving many on the fence. This holiday definitely showed that consumers have made the jump to Blu-ray.
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.cfm?ID=18670
and
Blu-ray Dominates Christmas Sales
Jan 5, 2009 by Scott Nichols
Back before Thanksgiving I predicted that Blu-ray sales would suffer during the holiday season due to the high cost of both the player and HDTVs combined with the current economic recession, among other reasons. But after seeing the report from the British Video Association declaring Blu-ray sales have risen almost 400 percent for the 2008 holiday season over the same period of time last year, it is clear that I was wrong.
Across the whole holiday season 3.7 million Blu-ray units were sold in Britain, and that doesn't include sales of Sony's Playstation 3 console, which also plays Blu-ray movies. A large contributing factor to the rise in Blu-ray sales was the release of the movies The Dark Knight and Mama Mia on Blu-ray. The Dark Knight sold almost 300,000 copies in its first few weeks, becoming the fastest selling Blu-ray title to date. Mama Mia was no slouch either selling 5.1 million copies by year-end.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/156327/blu_ray_holiday_sales.html?tk=rss
Jan 5, 2009 by Scott Nichols
Back before Thanksgiving I predicted that Blu-ray sales would suffer during the holiday season due to the high cost of both the player and HDTVs combined with the current economic recession, among other reasons. But after seeing the report from the British Video Association declaring Blu-ray sales have risen almost 400 percent for the 2008 holiday season over the same period of time last year, it is clear that I was wrong.
Across the whole holiday season 3.7 million Blu-ray units were sold in Britain, and that doesn't include sales of Sony's Playstation 3 console, which also plays Blu-ray movies. A large contributing factor to the rise in Blu-ray sales was the release of the movies The Dark Knight and Mama Mia on Blu-ray. The Dark Knight sold almost 300,000 copies in its first few weeks, becoming the fastest selling Blu-ray title to date. Mama Mia was no slouch either selling 5.1 million copies by year-end.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/156327/blu_ray_holiday_sales.html?tk=rss
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I do. So do ALL of my clients. When they're not sitting in front of their 65" Plasma screens in their offices and homes.
Blu-ray is only dead to those idiots who'll never be able to afford anything larger than a 13" screen. And would rather watch stolen movies in crappy resolution from the net, or worse yet, are dumb enough to pay for crappy resolution from the iTunes iCrap store.
If the shoe fits...
The FINAL word on Blu-ray
Blu-ray should be a technological decision. A decision based solely on whether or not a computer maker wants to continue to be perceived as cutting edge and thereby, command a JUSTIFIABLY higher premium in price by being so.
Not a political one based on solely monetary ramifications. Such as, "If we put Blu-ray in our computers, it will cut into our iCrap iTunes store market for downloaded movies in crap resolution."
A company that actually can drag its feet, kicking and screaming a "bag of hurt" all the way, on new technology (new technology that its pro content creator video producing high-end customer base needed LAST YEAR) because of arguments such as this, and worse yet, populate website forums full of shills and clueless iCrap fanbois to argue the position (as if Apple were some clueless neophyte like Obama with nothing going for him but makeup and charisma and a perceived [but not an actual shred of] difference from the competition, and thus, desperately needed boiler rooms full of rabid paid shills) deserves to go out of business, and as soon as possible. There has never been so many morons arguing against any technology as the anti Blu-ray crowd on here, and it smacks of politics and dirty tricks and boiler rooms.
Can you imagine all the ******s who are arguing against Blu-ray arguing, just a mere handful of years ago, arguing against putting DVD and CD burners in Macs? Where were you idiots then? Was this forum populated with dinosaurs then, as now? Apple would have followed Amiga right out of business years ago, and deservedly so.
Apple has to make a corporate decision; continue as the Mattel iCrap toymaker of the (barely) computer world, and face tons of cheaper flashier competition from new Chinese manufacturers (the Sony's and Panasonic's of China, and believe me, they're coming) or go back to making cutting edge workstations that give high end pro content creators what THEY needed to do business. LAST year.
Apparently the company can't do both. And boiler room shills be damned.
Blu-ray should be a technological decision. A decision based solely on whether or not a computer maker wants to continue to be perceived as cutting edge and thereby, command a JUSTIFIABLY higher premium in price by being so.
Not a political one based on solely monetary ramifications. Such as, "If we put Blu-ray in our computers, it will cut into our iCrap iTunes store market for downloaded movies in crap resolution."
A company that actually can drag its feet, kicking and screaming a "bag of hurt" all the way, on new technology (new technology that its pro content creator video producing high-end customer base needed LAST YEAR) because of arguments such as this, and worse yet, populate website forums full of shills and clueless iCrap fanbois to argue the position (as if Apple were some clueless neophyte like Obama with nothing going for him but makeup and charisma and a perceived [but not an actual shred of] difference from the competition, and thus, desperately needed boiler rooms full of rabid paid shills) deserves to go out of business, and as soon as possible. There has never been so many morons arguing against any technology as the anti Blu-ray crowd on here, and it smacks of politics and dirty tricks and boiler rooms.
Can you imagine all the ******s who are arguing against Blu-ray arguing, just a mere handful of years ago, arguing against putting DVD and CD burners in Macs? Where were you idiots then? Was this forum populated with dinosaurs then, as now? Apple would have followed Amiga right out of business years ago, and deservedly so.
Apple has to make a corporate decision; continue as the Mattel iCrap toymaker of the (barely) computer world, and face tons of cheaper flashier competition from new Chinese manufacturers (the Sony's and Panasonic's of China, and believe me, they're coming) or go back to making cutting edge workstations that give high end pro content creators what THEY needed to do business. LAST year.
Apparently the company can't do both. And boiler room shills be damned.