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We're getting closer and closer to Snow Leopard guys ;) I just have one question : Who on earth and why would give this news a negative?? I mean when i checked the article on the main page it had like 15 positives and 9 (!) negatives... Wonder why those people gave it a -... meh whatever :p I am as excited as i could ever be and darn i can't wait for it :D:D:D:apple::apple::apple:

People who clicked in the wrong place, automated bots, and people who don't like Apple.
 
This will be out before Monday, because the Mac Pros need the firmware inside 10.5.7 for the 4870 card.

Actually, if you look at the Apple site they have changes it to 10.5.6 for the card to work. They made the change on the same day as the release. I'm suprised no one has changed the article title.
 
I hope this fixes the problem with Boot Camp partitions not being removed due to an overly-fragmented disk. This may be a whole other issue though.

When I remove a Windows partition after a while and attempt to add a new one, it tells me there isn't enough free space, when there is PLENTY

Let's hope this fixes that issue.
 
does anyone know whether the 10.5.7 builds address the Airport problem (this one) that drives me crazy ever since updating to 10.5.6?
 
Haven't been able to wake my iMac since 10.5.6, and my firewire MyBook only works via USB since the update. And a handful of little issues. 10.5.6 was the least stable update I've seen. I hope 10.5.7 goes better.
 
Does this mean anything to the people awaiting their iMacs with the ATI 4850 card?

Seems like a good step for the people waiting that 5.7 get released so that their iMacs will work with the 4850.

This is an interesting question. You can order the MacPro with the 4870 card and it will ship in 2 to 4 days. The assumption is that it would need the same or equivalent drivers as the 4850 on the iMac. Why can't Apple do the same for the iMac and ship now instead of waiting for 10.5.7?

As quoted in another post

"the just announced Mac Pro, which will ship with a custom milestone of 10.5.6 that includes the appropriate driver support."
 
My hunch is that 10.5.7 will be out released by the end of the month.
 
I hope they fix the webkit issues with the new MBP and the general battery wonkiness.

Given the size of 10.5.7, and the massive updates we seen so far, I think this confirms how pre-mature and generally low quality Leopard was.

I am glad Apple is focusing on quality for Snow Leopard. The code base really has gotten away from them. Let's hope the same process is happening for iTunes, which is rapidly becoming a buggy mess.

But I welcome 10.5.7, and hope Apple takes their time and gets it very, very stable.

iTunes a buggy mess?!?!?1 I have over 36,000 songs (on a laptop no less) and zero bugs, ever. What bugs are you experiencing in iTunes?
 
iTunes a buggy mess?!?!?1 I have over 36,000 songs (on a laptop no less) and zero bugs, ever. What bugs are you experiencing in iTunes?

Ditto here...apart from the Office 2004 issue mentioned above, Leopard has been FLAWLESS to me so far...such whining PC-fanboy remarks couldn't be farther from the truth.

And iTunes? Never seen a bug since OS X 10.3, at least...go figure. :rolleyes:
 
This is an interesting question. You can order the MacPro with the 4870 card and it will ship in 2 to 4 days. The assumption is that it would need the same or equivalent drivers as the 4850 on the iMac. Why can't Apple do the same for the iMac and ship now instead of waiting for 10.5.7?

As quoted in another post

"the just announced Mac Pro, which will ship with a custom milestone of 10.5.6 that includes the appropriate driver support."

I think the whole "4850 iMac people have to wait 4-6 weeks b/c the card needs 10.5.7" doesn't necessarily hold much as the cause of the delay due to the fact that the 4870 in the macpro does not have a huge delay. But it also can't be due to the availability b/c I thought the 4850 has been out for a long time? :confused:

If 4850 is waiting for the 5.7 update, I can't see it taking another 6 weeks, and that's when the estimated ship dates are for me (and others) for their iMacs. None of the 4850 buyers are seeing a 4 week out ship date, they're 6 weeks out. Could just be Apple padding themselves. Let's hope!:D
 
I hear this every time, but from my experience Leopard has been rock solid. One could say that the fact that there are 11 updates to 10.4 show how premature and low quality that release was, but it's just that every OS needs updating. They're all "buggy". Software isn't finished, it's abandoned!

Leopard added more new features and more new functionality than any previous .1 upgrade. Time machine, loads of new mail functions, spaces, quicklook, core animation, new desktop UI, stacks the list goes on... Snow Leopard looks to add a lot under the hood; Open CL, Core Text, Grand Central, new Quicktime framework as well as improvements on the implementation of many of Leopards novelties. The functionality in OSX is extreme and elegant, when Windows is still trying to get the basics right and LINUX is little more than a joke (although unbuntu is getting there). I, for one, am thankful for such an amazing OS in comparison to the competition.

As a long time NeXT/Apple alum, to mock Linux makes you a joke. The two most capable systems are OS X and Linux, but in matters of Consumer space, Linux is definitely behind the curve. More specifically, the Desktop Environments for both GNOME and KDE are developer specific driven, not consumer specific driven.

As a matter of development, OS X Cocoa is a pleasure. Linux has GNUstep but with very little interest in ObjC by the Linux community it's no where near the level it should be, after 15 years.

Linux embraces two camps: C with GTK/GNOME and C++ with Qt/KDE.

OS X has the benefit of all three.

Windows has the legacy of business apps, games and infrastructure of corporate costs making it hard to break from them.

Windows has had it's day in the sun. It doesn't mean it won't continue to be the dominant player for the next decade. It'll just see that dominance erode more rapidly than the last decade.

By 2015 they should lose an additional 15% of the market share.

Apple has to shore some critical hardware gaps on their pre-existing systems.

For the high end industrial needs they have to add more full length x16 slots to show a superior platform for OpenGL, OpenCL and GrandCentral, all which make for attractive bargaining chips to heavy industry looking to leave Windows and already have moved to Linux.

Device Driver options need to expand. Apple needs to fill out ATi and Nvidia's GPU offerings for OS X hardware thus making it more affordable for consumers to move to OS X hardware.

The embedded Systems markets are wide-open. With PA-Semi and ARM the sky is the limit on which markets they want to redefine.

Starting with the Smart Grid Markets and being the platform for handheld/embedded console systems that interface with heavy industry power systems would be a start, but I'm getting way beyond Apple's focus.

I'd start with getting Apple to partner with DirectTV and providing the consumer with future AppleTV/DVR systems you subsidize while upgrading to an all HD 1080TV package.
 
Will this address mounting the Time Capsule when it is in sleep mode?

I have to select my Time Capsule in Finder then close Finder then reopen Finder in order to access files. I am connected Ethernet.
 
I put my MBP to sleep before I went to sleep last night, and I woke this morning to find that it had had a sleepless night and was just sitting with the lid down getting warmer and warmer. Hadn't had a failed sleep in a while, but it has been something I've always watched out for since Leopard; maybe a fix after 18 months?

Two days ago I woke the MBP from sleep to find that it had reverted to the awful Color LCD default display calibration; maybe a fix after 18 months? A day before that it woke with the brightness turned right down. These are so darn common and have been since Leopard's release. I wish they weren't (presumably) so low priority :(.

Same with failure to connect to SMB shares after wake from sleep; iTunes dashboard widget failure to work; menubar not following application focus; many applications not obeying window focus; loss of Airport network after wake from sleep (plain text password storage issue apparently); .... I do always look forward to updates, just on the off chance.
 
A big ++ to you for a very good post.

I hear this every time, but from my experience Leopard has been rock solid. One could say that the fact that there are 11 updates to 10.4 show how premature and low quality that release was, but it's just that every OS needs updating. They're all "buggy". Software isn't finished, it's abandoned!
People need to read and understand the above. There are very few apps or OS'es that are ever truly finished and bug free. Some releases may be worst than others but they all have bugs.
Leopard added more new features and more new functionality than any previous .1 upgrade. Time machine, loads of new mail functions, spaces, quicklook, core animation, new desktop UI, stacks the list goes on... Snow Leopard looks to add a lot under the hood; Open CL, Core Text, Grand Central, new Quicktime framework as well as improvements on the implementation of many of Leopards novelties. The functionality in OSX is extreme and elegant, when Windows is still trying to get the basics right and LINUX is little more than a joke (although unbuntu is getting there).
Well as a Linux user I have to take exception to that. Apple certainly does better in relation to user space software and is one of the reasons my primary machine is a Mac. I never personally liked Ubuntu but find Fedora to be very much to my liking. One of the good things here, with respect to Linux is keeping your machine updated. Running around looking for the latest bug and security patches for apps is a pain on the Mac. I'd really like to see a repository approach like Linux distros use or something similar to iPhones app store. In many ways app store makes it as easy to keep your iPhone updated as it does a Linux box, it would be nice to see Apple move in this direction with OS/X.
I, for one, am thankful for such an amazing OS in comparison to the competition.

I'd rather say different because I'm amazed that Apple has had so much trouble getting WiFi to work right on my MBP from early 2008. Yep one of those guys! In any event everything is clicking with OS/X in such a way that I see it as my primary OS.

Dave
 
Eh? What's wrong with MS Office 2004 + 10.5.6? I must be woefully ignorant :eek:

It's simply not running, especially Word...Intel iMac, 10.5.6, MS Office 2004 with all updates...dunno why, but must be something Rosetta-related...any tips? I have tried reinstalling it already, but the Setup Assistant always crashes when it's time to insert the serial number...
 
I certainly hope so but actually have my doubts.

does anyone know whether the 10.5.7 builds address the Airport problem (this one) that drives me crazy ever since updating to 10.5.6?

I have an early 2008 MBP and for the last couple of updates have been having all sorts of WiFi issues on certain networks. Especially the dropped connection / scanning issue. Only on certain networks of course. The last networking update only marginally addressed the issue. So yeah I'd like to see a fix.

The problem as I see it is that their driver is screwed up in major ways. This likely will require a major rewrite. So as bad as it sounds I don't expect a solid fix until 19.6.x. It has been a bit frustrating in that some networks are completely fine and others give the machine fits.
 
Sorry guys, maybe describing LINUX as a "joke" is a little too strong. What I'm getting at is that it has a heck of a long way to go before it's a "main-stream" OS. If that is even what any distro intends to be. Unbuntu seems to be aiming for the more general use, consumer market but it hasn't got anything near the polish or usability of OSX from my admittedly limited experience.
 
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