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Apple Releases Updated iMac Models With 21.5- and 27-Inch LED Screens

AidenShaw said:
Flash is a virus.... ;) Fortunately, IE lets you disable Flash easily.
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Thats nice. (In some monotonous tone)

AidenShaw said:
Or, at best, a waste of time watching horrible quality video. I don't do that.
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He says while hanging around on some forum while he knows that he cant change a single opinion.

And its not a link to some stupid youtube video, its a Game Magazine's website.
 
AidenShaw said:
Then tell the webmaster to make a "no-flash" page.

Have you ever disabled flash, and noticed how much faster and usable the web is?

Once you go "no-flash", you won't go back. ;)
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I just use Safari-AdBlock, that way I can get rid of those flash ads and still be able to watch actual content.

Try IE Adblock, it works pretty ok and its not crapware.
http://adblockie.codeplex.com/

Some ads are let through, but they're usually hard coded into the site.
 
DMann said:
Equivalent? Not even close - apps are self-contained packages in OS X - they can be run outside of a folder, and deleted by simply dumping them into the trash. Try doing that in Windows. The registry needs to be in sync with the filesystem - if you delete an application without "uninstalling" you're up sh*** creek. If you want to move an application to a different path on your machine, or perhaps to a different machine altogether, good luck extracting the relevant settings

for that one particular application from The Registry, as any given application typically has dozens of settings strewn all over it. Unix, on-the-other-hand, allows different versions to be present in the same directory - a poor attempt of a comparison.
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These are the kind of points Apple should be using in their "Get a Mac" ads, instead of "PCs get viruses" ad nauseam. If they're going to bash Windows they should bash the Registry and its intrinsic flaws, perhaps by showing the PC guy trying to keep a house of cards from falling down. :D
 
Terminal.app said:
These are the kind of points Apple should be using in their "Get a Mac" ads, instead of "PCs get viruses" ad nauseam. If they're going to bash Windows they should bash the Registry and its intrinsic flaws, perhaps by showing the PC guy trying to keep a house of cards from falling down. :D
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Agreed. Hopefully it will make it into future rounds.

It is amazing, though, the great extent that someone would actually go to, to defend it.
 
AidenShaw said:
Then tell the webmaster to make a "no-flash" page.

Have you ever disabled flash, and noticed how much faster and usable the web is?

Once you go "no-flash", you won't go back. ;)
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With NoScript and Karma Blocker installed, Firefox is snappy as hell. I totally agree with you!

I can't say the same when I open Safari and it's all down to those annoying flash banners. That guy nit picking about what certain flash ads are linking to has missed the point, flash ads are giant pulsating turds that waste your bandwidth, slow the response of your browser down by gobbling up resources and generally annoy you.

iMacs are Pretty...

See, it's ON topic now

:D
 
Does Apple hate GPUs? Their GPU is once again 3 years + outdated. Apple is overpriced and underpowered.
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Of course not, however look at other All In One computers, I don't think you'll find anything better than the iMacs and if so, not by much (could be wrong).
The new quad core iMacs are awesome value imo and quite powerful particularly for an All In One. Some things from Apple are too expensive imo but maybe that will change eventually.
I've actually tried pricing up desktop systems compared to this, including the screen they are comparable (although the screen may not be near the quality of the iMacs and none I found had the 2560x1440 resolution), the desktops all had better graphic card options.
 
MythicFrost said:
Of course not, however look at other All In One computers, I don't think you'll find anything better than the iMacs and if so, not by much (could be wrong).
The new quad core iMacs are awesome value imo and quite powerful particularly for an All In One. Some things from Apple are too expensive imo but maybe that will change eventually.
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It's the same with their "pro" desktops too, though. I am a gamer (who would use Windows 7 for games) and GPU is important. Apple still really needs an upgradable desktop tower, but they won't do that because they don't want you upgrading (they want you to buy a whole new Mac instead).
 
It's the same with their "pro" desktops too, though. I am a gamer (who would use Windows 7 for games) and GPU is important. Apple still really needs an upgradable desktop tower, but they won't do that because they don't want you upgrading (they want you to buy a whole new Mac instead).
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I agree, but I believe it's for a different reason the Mac Pro doesn't have better graphic card options,
I'd say the most of it is the lack of gamers on Macs, the GPU companies like NVidia probably won't get nearly as much pay out from developing a high end consumer graphics card for Mac than it would a PC.

I guess the problem with a bigger GPU is managing the heat produced by it.
I myself have a Mac Pro with a GTX 285 1GB and it barely gets me enough FPS in Crysis on Max settings on my 23", and I want a 30" I'd have to drop to medium/high settings to get 30+ FPS... It's not good enough Apple!

We need a GTX 295 1.5-2GB or something better for the Mac Pro, and we need the GTX 285 1GB for the iMac - at least the choice anyway :p
Would the GTX 285 1GB produce much more heat than the 4850?
 
At least Apple noticed a critical shortcoming, and addressed it - even if they're still more than twice the price of the same power from other vendors. The "all-in-one" form factor isn't popular for any company that offers mini-towers. The only vendor selling good numbers of all-in-ones is the only vendor that doesn't have a mini-tower. Can you connect the dots in this picture?

The "mini server" with the dual laptop drives - oh Christ, what silliness. Apple could have done a mini/micro tower with hot swap drives and come out with something to play against the HP MediaSmart and other Windows Home Server systems. But no...
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I also agree with you there. I have a G4 mini-tower. It's not huge but it packs 4 expansion slots, 1 double drive sled, 2 independent ATA buses capable of driving 4 drives (I have 1 in the 3.5 bay where the zip drive is meant to go and 2 on the sled the system drive comes on).

It's also got an extra drive mounting bracket with ample room for 2 more drives if I can get hold of a mounting sled and it already has the spare power connectors to power them if I add a PCI card and the relevant cabling.

So that's a mini-tower with: -

  • 4 PCI/Expansion slots
  • 3 RAM slot (ok, that's crap)
  • 3 available drive bays complete with ATA and Power connectors
  • 2 potential drive bays with the addition of a sled, PCI controller and appropriate cabling
  • ATX form factor (a very standard motherboard size)

All Apple would need to do is build a core i7 based system to fit in a more modernised, Mac Pro inspired case with a slot load optical drive in place of the little door on the front and then add front USB, Firewire and audio where the zip bay currently is.

The £1,099 Core i7 mini-tower!

Thank you Apple, only being waiting nearly 8 years for a new mac I can get some shelf life out of!
 
barkmonster said:
With NoScript and Karma Blocker installed, Firefox is snappy as hell. I totally agree with you!

I can't say the same when I open Safari and it's all down to those annoying flash banners. That guy nit picking about what certain flash ads are linking to has missed the point, flash ads are giant pulsating turds that waste your bandwidth, slow the response of your browser down by gobbling up resources and generally annoy you.

iMacs are Pretty...

See, it's ON topic now

:D
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Safari Adblock.
 
IWantItThatWay said:
Does Apple hate GPUs? Their GPU is once again 3 years + outdated. Apple is overpriced and underpowered.
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That's funny (and ignorant), considering that the 4850 mobile part they use in the iMac came out six bloody months ago.

They use mobile GPU in the iMac, not desktop.
 
barkmonster said:
I also agree with you there. I have a G4 mini-tower. It's not huge but it packs 4 expansion slots, 1 double drive sled, 2 independent ATA buses capable of driving 4 drives (I have 1 in the 3.5 bay where the zip drive is meant to go and 2 on the sled the system drive comes on).
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But the G4 towers were the Mac Pro's of their day and you paid for the upgradeability privilege. Apple's mentality is that if you want a very expandable machine then you need to buy a Mac Pro, they will not release a minitower that would cut into their pro lineup (they are close enough to doing this power-wise with the quad i7 iMac).
 
jmpage2 said:
That's funny (and ignorant), considering that the 4850 mobile part they use in the iMac came out six bloody months ago.

They use mobile GPU in the iMac, not desktop.
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People still don't get it. The "TECH" they use IS older tech. It's just the new smaller version that runs cooler and with less power consumption. Think PS3 vs PS3 Slim. They both do the exact same thing, but one is more appealing because it's smaller and quieter. This is the only way Apple can make the iMacs so thin without cranking the fans up and creating an annoying wind tunnel.

If you don't like the iMac, you are not it's target audience. High end gamers and PC builders need not apply. You are not going to convince me or any other iMac fan that some mini-tower hackintosh is better. It's not, it's something completely different. I'm writing this on a 24" iMac which I consider the best computer I've ever owned …and a couple years down the road I'll be writing the same dang thing on a new 27" iMac because you guys will never get the hint. :rolleyes:
 
Eidorian said:
I have a passive video card. Overclocked and it's not possible for it to create an annoying wind tunnel. :p
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No, the card itself doesn't have a fan, but it creates heat (especially overclocked) …meaning you have to have some other fan or large heatsink to cool it.

I lived through a liquid-cooled G5 at work. Annoying as crap! I can be playing a game on my iMac and you can't even hear the fans spinning unless you put your head against the machine. The most annoying thing I hear is my external drive spinning up for Time Machine backups. :mad: ;)
 
zweigand said:
No, the card itself doesn't have a fan, but it creates heat (especially overclocked) …meaning you have to have some other fan or large heatsink to remove it.

I lived through a liquid-cooled G5 at work. Annoying as crap! I can be playing a game on my iMac and you can't even hear the fans spinning unless you put your head against the machine. The most annoying thing I hear is my external drive spinning up for Time Machine backups. :mad: ;)
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I saw some nice PC for sale at best buy that comes with a liquid cooling system. It was very neat looking to say the least. I'd buy one if I could.
 
zweigand said:
No, the card itself doesn't have a fan, but it creates heat (especially overclocked) …meaning you have to have some other fan or large heatsink to cool it.
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True, I have set up my case fans to create an intake and exhaust for the passive GPU. Apple just uses heatpipes to direct the passively cooled GPUs to dump into the ducting they have set up.

They're not small either. Someone just needs check out GPU-Z because it looks like the desktop mounting on the daughter card to me.
 
CQd44 said:
I saw some nice PC for sale at best buy that comes with a liquid cooling system. It was very neat looking to say the least. I'd buy one if I could.
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Trust me, it sounds awesome, but if things go wrong you'll wish you hadn't. Unless you are building a system that is going to be massively overclocked and reliability isn't a concern, stick with fans.
 
Eidorian said:
True, I have set up my case fans to create an intake and exhaust for the passive GPU. Apple just uses heatpipes to direct the passively cooled GPUs to dump into the ducting they have set up.

They're not small either.
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And they'd have to be even bigger if they used higher-end GPUs! (or the fans would have to spin faster)

Apple engineers do what they do for a reason …and that reason is not to annoy gamers. At least not entirely. :D
 
zweigand said:
Trust me, it sounds awesome, but if things go wrong you'll wish you hadn't. Unless you are building a system that is going to be massively overclocked and reliability isn't a concern, stick with fans.
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Preinstalled means it has factory warranty and assurance. I'd like to think it'd be more reliable than a DIY liquid cooling solution ;]
 
zweigand said:
And they'd have to be even bigger if they used higher-end GPUs! (or the fans would have to spin faster)

Apple engineers do what they do for a reason …and that reason is not to annoy gamers. At least not entirely. :D
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I don't have the software here to do an exact pixel count but the GPU cooler but it looks like it's about 4" x 2" x 0.75" and it stair steps down in depth.

I'm using the LGA 775 socket size as reference.
 
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