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Meh. I get there's going to be bad actors but I have a hard time understanding how this solution solves that particular problem.

The other side of that coin is an explicit prohibition to dissent from a commonly expressed opinion in a thread, then.

I'm not going to take the time to write a reply to each comment? But... they're all something I disagree with, all the same. And my feeling is that we should be allowed to say so, until proven otherwise.
 
I wish the disagree button was available in every thread, conversely.

The “haha” is the closest we’ve got, so… take it as such!
 
Meh. I get there's going to be bad actors but I have a hard time understanding how this solution solves that particular problem.

The other side of that coin is an explicit prohibition to dissent from a commonly expressed opinion in a thread, then.

I'm not going to take the time to write a reply to each comment? But... they're all something I disagree with, all the same. And my feeling is that we should be allowed to say so, until proven otherwise.
So I get it. It’s not a perfect solution.

The existence of the downvote at all in News threads is because we promote highly upvoted posts to be featured under the article.

Without a downvote, highly polarizing comments (“I hate puppies”) would easily get enough upvotes to get promoted. Adding the downvote allows those comments to get un-promoted.

The system works reasonably well, even when you add in a daily limit. Which is why we’ve settled on that compromise.
 
Personally I don’t view any of the reactions as bullying.

If you can “like” a post you should be able to “dislike/disagree”. Which I know are semantically differently.

There are some posts that are imo off the wall to warrant an haha. And to me a picture is worth 1000 words. “….and in conclusion the world is flat”. That post would get a haha from me.
 
Why not actually explain why you disagree with something?
Because that's kinda the whole point of up/down voting (or like/dislike)...to register a reaction without derailing the thread with arguments or cluttering it with "I agree" posts.

didn't realize they were in such short supply we had to ration them like RAM
I've got some spare dislikes I can sell you, only $20 each! (Don't tell arn.)
 
Idk I use laugh emojis only when I read something funny or ironic, never as an insult or as dislike replacement. As for dislikes I historically almost never use them on this forum. It is sort of a Reddit thing, which I don’t use for that reason - upvote and downvote karma system here is very obsolete and promotes botnets. With just 2-3 accounts one promote anything there, so wild.

As an alternative I would propose adding 😎🤔🤯🙂😢🥴👽 to reactions list, any of these of all of them. People use them on Telegram widely as universal meta-irony so neither can be used for specific targeting or hate campaigns, except 🥴 maybe
 
Sounds like a good idea to me, expressing a difference in opinion or understanding as opposed to stating the post was flat out wrong.
Actually, I disagree.

This is because I believe that widespread use of the dislike emoji gives rise to a negative (and, at times, quite nasty) tone, atmosphere and ambience - to the detriment of whatever conversation, discussion, or debate is taking place - in the threads where it is used.
 
Actually, I disagree.

This is because I believe that widespread use of the dislike emoji gives rise to a negative (and, at times, quite nasty) tone, atmosphere and ambience - to the detriment of whatever conversation, discussion, or debate is taking place - in the threads where it is used.
There are times I wanted to disagree with a post outside of the main news thread but I had to settle for “sad face”.
 
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Actually, I disagree.

This is because I believe that widespread use of the dislike emoji gives rise to a negative (and, at times, quite nasty) tone, atmosphere and ambience - to the detriment of whatever conversation, discussion, or debate is taking place - in the threads where it is used.
As long as we can agree to disagree, I'm fine.

From my perspective, disagree and dislike are two different things and it may be a challenge to make an emoji expressing disagreement versus dislike.

My experience with on-line forums started with Compuserve in late 1990, then went on to Usenet (which got really nasty at times), Slashdot and others. Needless to say, I've seen how many threads can rapidly devolve into a pissing match.
 
This is because I believe that widespread use of the dislike emoji gives rise to a negative (and, at times, quite nasty) tone, atmosphere and ambience - to the detriment of whatever conversation, discussion, or debate is taking place - in the threads where it is used.
When Vision Pro released there was a collection of people who would downvote or use the mocking laugh on any post that wasn’t completely bashing the product. To me, it made for a negative atmosphere like you put it. People were trying to share their experiences with a completely new Apple product. They were excited. The negativity they received is something I hope never to understand.
 
When Vision Pro released there was a collection of people who would downvote or use the mocking laugh on any post that wasn’t completely bashing the product
The people using the negative emoticons were doing the same exact thing - offering their opinions. The negative atmosphere would be there regardless

using the /dislike/angry emoticons are appropriate methods and counter balance the other positive (like/love/ emoticons_. If someone can freely hit "Like" on a given post, people should have the freedom to express their disagreement in a similar fashon.

I will say the product bashing/negativity of the AVP was not due to people using the negative emoticons but rather people expressing their negative opinions on the AVP. In other words, the majority of people disliked the AVP and communicated as such, which annoyed/angered a very small but vocal minority who liked the product..
 
The people using the negative emoticons were doing the same exact thing - offering their opinions. The negative atmosphere would be there regardless

using the /dislike/angry emoticons are appropriate methods and counter balance the other positive (like/love/ emoticons_. If someone can freely hit "Like" on a given post, people should have the freedom to express their disagreement in a similar fashon.

I will say the product bashing/negativity of the AVP was not due to people using the negative emoticons but rather people expressing their negative opinions on the AVP. In other words, the majority of people disliked the AVP and communicated as such, which annoyed/angered a very small but vocal minority who liked the product..
On posts where people talk about a feature they’ve been using or a post asking a question about a feature, I’m not sure what opinion they were offering with the Dislike or mocking emoji. One person consistently added the mocking emoji to any post about VP that wasn’t critical of it. Oftentimes there was no stated view or anything to disagree with or mock.

If someone says the product is the best ever, disapprove all you want. Express all of the reasons you would never buy the product. Talk about the price, weight, use cases or color that you don’t like.
When some says they’re enjoying a product or one of its features, the dislike or mocking laugh, to me, seem to be directed at the person more than the product - and not in a kind way.

In my experience, the vocal minority were a handful of people using the Dislike or mocking emoji for seemingly every post from a VP owner.
 
If someone says the product is the best ever, disapprove all you want. Express all of the reasons you would never buy the product. Talk about the price, weight, use cases or color that you don’t like.
When some says they’re enjoying a product or one of its features, the dislike or mocking laugh, to me, seem to be directed at the person more than the product - and not in a kind way.
This is where I disagree. People have the freedom to convey their opinions in any way they see fit and are not beholden to you or other members to justify their dislike.

Just because you want debate why, doesn't mean they do, they can convey their disapproval easily enough.

In my experience, the vocal minority were a handful of people using the Dislike or mocking emoji for seemingly every post from a VP owner.
That is your opinion, but the ferocity of people defending the AVP may very well be the reason why they just want to use the emoticons.
 
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