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10.11.2 and TM

jasnw

jasnw

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Well, TM appears to be fixed and not fixed in 10.11.2. While TM does now appear to be backing up on an hourly schedule, it's having trouble on the access side. Each backup time shows two entries, either for the same time or one minute apart. When you exit TM you get several seconds of spinning beachball (or whatever it's called these days) before you get control of the cursor back. This ongoing story of things that worked (or at least kinda-sorta worked) at one time suddenly going sideways in a new release is getting real old.

This on a 2012 MBA that had El Capitan 10.11.1 clean installed.
 
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This is not what I am seeing. MacPro (2012). I have entries that are about one hour apart, with no double entries, and exit from TM was nearly instantaneous, with no beach ball.
 
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maflynn said:
[MOD NOTE]
Please stop the arguing/bickering
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Dear Mike: Sorry but all I did was say I was not seeing the same thing as the OP, not challenging, not flaming, actually trying to be helpful, and certainly not trying to start an argument. Knowing whether a problem is isolated or widespread is useful and a good use of the forum IMHO, but if I am wrong about that, please say so.
 
Wellll... I thought I was free from any TM errors but today I had a friend over who doesn't back up – I know right – so I decided to show him the wonders of Time Machine, then discovered I can't restore anything or exit from it. I can browse my backups as much as I like but it looks like I'll have to use the power button to exit.

10.11.2 upgrade from 10.11.1, no betas.

Edit: Control+Option+Escape, restart, now can't reproduce error. Oh Apple.
 
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jasnw said:
Well, TM appears to be fixed and not fixed in 10.11.2. While TM does now appear to be backing up on an hourly schedule, it's having trouble on the access side. Each backup time shows two entries, either for the same time or one minute apart. When you exit TM you get several seconds of spinning beachball (or whatever it's called these days) before you get control of the cursor back. This ongoing story of things that worked (or at least kinda-sorta worked) at one time suddenly going sideways in a new release is getting real old.

This on a 2012 MBA that had El Capitan 10.11.1 clean installed.
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Backups/Backups.backupdb/Stephen’s MacBook Pro/2015-12-11-204109.inProgress/7F1481D5-80E5-45EF-9BA8-97C32391C440
No post-backup thinning needed: no expired backups exist
Backup completed successfully.
Ejected Time Machine disk image: /Volumes/Passport hdd-2/Stephen’s MacBook Pro.sparsebundle
Ejected Time Machine network volume.
Thanks tm working excellent via aes/external hdd
 
I've not trusted Time Machine since Yosemite.
See no reason to change today.
SuperDuper! seems to do a reliable, if not quite so automatic, job.
I'll take reliable over automatic every day.
 
Donfor39 said:
I like the idea of user duper, kept getting a virus alert whilst trying to download s/duper
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Super Duper is a good product, but I have a different preference.

I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) which I have used since OS 10.4. I like that CCC will prompt to also clone the Recovery partition during the first clone. Super Duper does not provide that service, so a clone from a Super Duper clone to a blank drive would not have the Recovery partition.
Here is the CCC instructions pdf if you want more informations about the features.
 
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CoastalOR said:
Super Duper is a good product, but I have a different preference.

I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) which I have used since OS 10.4.
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Yeah, there's that possibility too.
I don't think the SuperDuper! fans and the CCC fans have ever fought a war, but we have our preferences.
It's nice that the market is big enough to support two decent products, beyond what Apple offers for our consternation.

There was a time when Time Machine "just plain worked", but I haven't seen that in a while, and do not like the idea of running around without at least a double or triple redundant backup scheme.
 
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Partron22 said:
Yeah, there's that possibility too.
I don't think the SuperDuper! fans and the CCC fans have ever fought a war, but we have our preferences.
It's nice that the market is big enough to support two decent products, beyond what Apple offers for our consternation.

There was a time when Time Machine "just plain worked", but I haven't seen that in a while, and do not like the idea of running around without at least a double or triple redundant backup scheme.
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Used carbon Copy cloner previous 2011L macbook..couldn't get the backups working via aes/external hdd ridiculously difficult to setup
 
CoastalOR said:
Super Duper is a good product, but I have a different preference.

I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) which I have used since OS 10.4. I like that CCC will prompt to also clone the Recovery partition during the first clone. Super Duper does not provide that service, so a clone from a Super Duper clone to a blank drive would not have the Recovery partition.
Here is the CCC instructions pdf if you want more informations about the features.
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+1 for CCC! Never used anything else! The creation of the RP is one of the many treats in this program.

Saved my bacon many times, so highly recommended specially now with those flaky updates/grades by Apple!

Cheers
 
Donfor39 said:
Iv'e never read a manual, ccc doesn't see my network or external hdd, TM does as does Super duper-automatically-ccc doesn't.
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Very strange behaviour indeed! Any network sniffers and/or blockers active on your system?

Did you ever dropped a ticket at Bombich? Their support is great!

Cheers
 
CoastalOR said:
I like that CCC will prompt to also clone the Recovery partition during the first clone.
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It is a nice feature but to my knowledge Apple doesn't provide an official way to clone recovery, I wonder if doing so unofficially has any drawbacks?


As for the topic I got fed up with Time Machine and I am ditching it permanently, it was unreliable in 10.10 until 10.10.5 fixed most of the problems but now with 10.11.0-10.11.2 I can't restore files from backup... Details in this thread.

Fortunately I was prudent enough to use SuperDuper as my main backup and Time Machine only as a secondary so I am not going to be missing it.

Time Machine is a very nice idea but the way Apple has implemented it means I cannot trust it. Unless Apple improves it dramatically I won't be using it ever again.
 
Ebenezum said:
It is a nice feature but to my knowledge Apple doesn't provide an official way to clone recovery, I wonder if doing so unofficially has any drawbacks?
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They actually do... a clone (restore) with Disk Utility will bring over the recovery partition as will a restore from a local Time Machine backup (since 10.7.2).
 
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Weaselboy said:
They actually do... a clone (restore) with Disk Utility will bring over the recovery partition as will a restore from a local Time Machine backup (since 10.7.2).
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Weaselboy said:
They actually do... a clone (restore) with Disk Utility will bring over the recovery partition as will a restore from a local Time Machine backup (since 10.7.2).
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Does ccc copy OS X recovery partition to hdd via wifi when I had to select my home folder as ccc advised I couldn't copy hdd as it was previously used for TM
 

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