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Anyone having Mail issues with 10.15.4? Yesterday I was working on an email and Mail just quit and then it basically had to reinstall and reload all of my mail. Now I have a bunch of messages in drafts and I can't delete them--I get message saying "Cannot move message to X mailbox" and X is a regular mail account (I have a few).
 
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I haven’t got that problem but I do have one with printing some emails to either my laser printer or a pdf file. It won’t print the body of the document, only the headers. It appears that some emails have permissions which negate printing. In my case it was an invoice from Apple. I spoke to Apple support and they have concluded that it is an OS bug and have raised a ticket for it.
However, I can work round this as my email is gmail. You can print direct from their email app and it works fine.
 
I just came here to see if it’s safe to upgrade to Catalina yet (from a Mail perspective). I guess I’ll keep holding off!
 
I think that would be wise. One of the things about Catalina that completely passed me by, was the dropping support for 32 bit applications. I hope at some point some clever person develops some sort of "emulator" (if that's the correct term) to be able to run legacy 32 bit programs. Something in the back of my mind is saying that Microsoft did exactly that when they made a major change to Windows years ago. No hope I suppose that Apple would help?
 
I think that would be wise. One of the things about Catalina that completely passed me by, was the dropping support for 32 bit applications. I hope at some point some clever person develops some sort of "emulator" (if that's the correct term) to be able to run legacy 32 bit programs. Something in the back of my mind is saying that Microsoft did exactly that when they made a major change to Windows years ago. No hope I suppose that Apple would help?

Some clever person already developed an emulation to run 32-bit apps it is called a virtual machine. Apple is on the 64-bit path and not looking back. It is not like Apple did not give everyone a heads up several years ago that 32-bit was going to be stopped being supported. And last year Apple gave the final warning with the release of Mojave. I really don’t understand why people are surprised by this. You need 32-bit apps then stay on Mojave or use a virtual machine in the case where your Mac can’t run Mojave.
 
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No, I am not surprised by this. But not all of us are monitoring these things all the time. We just get on with stuff. How and why would I get informed? I don't remember seeing anything from Apple!
 


 
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Anyone having Mail issues with 10.15.4? Yesterday I was working on an email and Mail just quit and then it basically had to reinstall and reload all of my mail. Now I have a bunch of messages in drafts and I can't delete them--I get message saying "Cannot move message to X mailbox" and X is a regular mail account (I have a few).

uh-huh. Doesn't seem to be enough information. Email service used (iCloud, Exchange, Outlook/Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, etc)?? Did you compose a fresh email or reply/reply to all? Full Screen (main or composing window) or tiled or was it in another desktop space (like full screen)? Any issues with sync'ing before the crash? Have you had a look into Console to see if there was an error or several related to mail around the same time of the crash? (personally I'm still learning how to traverse or understand Console myself).
 


Perhaps you could have sent them to me earlier!
 
No, I am not surprised by this. But not all of us are monitoring these things all the time. We just get on with stuff. How and why would I get informed? I don't remember seeing anything from Apple!
Fascinating... Mojave has been screaming at me every month or so, when I started my 32bit applications, that next release of macOS (=Catalina) will not support xyz (32bit) program and that I need to upgrade. Apple released tool which created a list of not compatible applications. And Catalina upgrade was warning about inability to run 32 bit applications ahead of upgrade. Including listing those applications. What more they could have done?
There are solutions, though:
1. Get one of the virtualization packages, install Mojave in them and run in them any 32bit applications you need.
2. Stay on Mojave
3. Get Windows
... in which case PSA : warning! The next version of macOS will retire old kernel extensions support. Catalina has been warning me, that some kernel extensions used today are not going to be compatible and they need to be upgraded. Since they will not be compatible with next release of macOS. Note that!
 
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