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AppleLover87

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Aug 26, 2020
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Anyone experience Fans spinning like crazy and mouse spin balling (safari) and processor loading up too 60/65 procent in activity monitor..? before i never had this problem with 10.15.6
I also tried a fresh install.. but no difference.
 

Iperzampem0

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Sep 25, 2013
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This is happening to me as well on my 2013 MacBook Air. Updated to 10.15.7 the other night and now I constantly have the Mac completely slowed down by high temperatures, an always-on fan, even without any opened apps!!
I've already reset SMC and PRAM and it worked just one time. Unbelievable......... 😡🤬
 
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AppleLover87

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Aug 26, 2020
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This is happening to me as well on my 2013 MacBook Air. Updated to 10.15.7 the other night and now I constantly have the Mac completely slowed down by high temperatures, an always-on fan, even without any opened apps!!
I've already reset SMC and PRAM and it worked just one time. Unbelievable......... 😡🤬
You can download the full installer 10.15.6 , it helped my problem.
 
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Iperzampem0

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Sep 25, 2013
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You can download the full installer 10.15.6 , it helped my problem.

Sure but am I supposed to be stuck forever now?
I mean, 10.15.7 was also supposed to fix issues regarding the security of the Mac. What the hell Apple! I’m curious about Big Sur, hopefully it doesn’t have the same bug (?) for us.
 
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Iperzampem0

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Sep 25, 2013
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Oh and btw I’ve completely reset the Mac with 10.15.7 from USB. Seemed pretty fine upon final installation, 1st stock app configurations. Then, after a shutdown and a consequent boot up, I have AGAIN the same things: fan spinning, heat, Spotlight not working (neither from Cmd + Space nor from the top right icon in the menu bar), system performances at least at -70%. Pretty unusable.

“accountsd” and “commerce” are the 2 processes to look at!
 
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AppleLover87

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Aug 26, 2020
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Sure but am I supposed to be stuck forever now?
I mean, 10.15.7 was also supposed to fix issues regarding the security of the Mac. What the hell Apple! I’m curious about Big Sur, hopefully it doesn’t have the same bug (?) for us.
I hope they will bring a fix for 10.15.7 , thats why i dont like updates anymore.it fix something and break something !
 
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Sheller

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Jun 26, 2012
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Toronto
Same issue here on a my old mid 2012 MBP 13". Fan's are always spinning up. When I first looked at the Activity Monitor I found a process called "Accountsd" that was using a lot of CPU. I got rid of that issue by going into my Keychain and deleting some old Microsoft login's (read that fix on another forum). That fixed the CPU spikes, but still have the fan issue. Never had this or any issue actually on 10.15.6.
 
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Iperzampem0

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Sep 25, 2013
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In fact I think I've found a fix for this...

1) You have to open your Keychain app on macOS and basically replace (from Preferences in the menu bar) your "login" and "local elements" keychains, OR, at least (much safer option if you have login/passwords saved in iCloud), look into the entire list of elements saved and try to understand what *old/unused* accounts you have and that you can delete that might interfere with the Mac automatically trying to add them on your Internet Accounts. Then reboot.

2) Reset the SMC of your Mac. A quick Google search will bring you the exact buttons to press upon boot.

3) Eventually also clear the NVRAM of your Mac: shutdown the Mac, connect it to the power adaptor if not already, then click the power button to boot it up and quickly press (and keep pressed) the buttons Cmd, Options, P, R until you see the screen of your Mac flashing and you hear the startup sound at very high volume (I don't know if the latest Macs can still hear that). Done!

After all these, I can confirm I don't have anything strange anymore. Will report you guys if it reverts back, but I'm very confident it was some old accounts saved in the keychain (you know, maybe the Google ones that Mail wanted to add back at all costs) making the 'accountsd' process mad.
 
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Mistic007

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Feb 13, 2014
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I was stupid enough to after delaying many times the updater to accept the auto update today and my 2019 iMac 27" now is in a weird place. Safari 14 just became utterly useless. Even typing lags enourmously, everything else first has a spinning thingy for several secods before anything happens. Then spotlight stopped working and the accoundsd process is hammering my cpu 300%+ of usage for hours already. Wtf happended? Now I'll have to dive into all these proposed solutions and hoping for the best. Apple should be ashamed of themselves for pushing such a crappy update.
 
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AppleLover87

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Aug 26, 2020
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I was stupid enough to after delaying many times the updater to accept the auto update today and my 2019 iMac 27" now is in a weird place. Safari 14 just became utterly useless. Even typing lags enourmously, everything else first has a spinning thingy for several secods before anything happens. Then spotlight stopped working and the accoundsd process is hammering my cpu 300%+ of usage for hours already. Wtf happended? Now I'll have to dive into all these proposed solutions and hoping for the best. Apple should be ashamed of themselves for pushing such a crappy update.
In fact I think I've found a fix for this...

1) You have to open your Keychain app on macOS and basically replace (from Preferences in the menu bar) your "login" and "local elements" keychains, OR, at least (much safer option if you have login/passwords saved in iCloud), look into the entire list of elements saved and try to understand what *old/unused* accounts you have and that you can delete that might interfere with the Mac automatically trying to add them on your Internet Accounts. Then reboot.

2) Reset the SMC of your Mac. A quick Google search will bring you the exact buttons to press upon boot.

3) Eventually also clear the NVRAM of your Mac: shutdown the Mac, connect it to the power adaptor if not already, then click the power button to boot it up and quickly press (and keep pressed) the buttons Cmd, Options, P, R until you see the screen of your Mac flashing and you hear the startup sound at very high volume (I don't know if the latest Macs can still hear that). Done!

After all these, I can confirm I don't have anything strange anymore. Will report you guys if it reverts back, but I'm very confident it was some old accounts saved in the keychain (you know, maybe the Google ones that Mail wanted to add back at all costs) making the 'accountsd' process mad.
They must release a fix! Too much hocuspocus.
 
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Iperzampem0

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Sep 25, 2013
25
5
Venice (Italy)
I concur @AppleLover87 but if you don't do anything your Mac is basically useless after this update (at least mine).

I thought about reverting back to 10.15.6 but I didn't have any Time Machine backup OR updating to the Big Sur Public Beta to see if things was different. Prior to discover those "fixes", I've questioned myself if it was a capacitor on the Mac not being able to save anymore the SMC settings (is it for real tho?) or even my SSD.

In the end, I've manually backed up all my files/folders (as I'm always used to do) and then I did a 10.15.7 installation from scratch (I had also prepared a USB with the latest installer). After the 2nd bootup after installation I had the exact same issue without any 3rd party apps installed, just my iCloud account logged in, so I figured it was something else and that "Keychain-related" thing was my best bet to try (should've done it BEFORE erasing my Mac...).
 
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AppleLover87

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Aug 26, 2020
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I concur @AppleLover87 but if you don't do anything your Mac is basically useless after this update (at least mine).

I thought about reverting back to 10.15.6 but I didn't have any Time Machine backup OR updating to the Big Sur Public Beta to see if things was different. Prior to discover those "fixes", I've questioned myself if it was a capacitor on the Mac not being able to save anymore the SMC settings (is it for real tho?) or even my SSD.

In the end, I've manually backed up all my files/folders (as I'm always used to do) and then I did a 10.15.7 installation from scratch (I had also prepared a USB with the latest installer). After the 2nd bootup after installation I had the exact same issue without any 3rd party apps installed, just my iCloud account logged in, so I figured it was something else and that "Keychain-related" thing was my best bet to try (should've done it BEFORE erasing my Mac...).
Yess ****ed up, but you can download version 10.15.6 with terminal.. i did it and it works great again! Lets forget about 15.7😉
 
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Sheller

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Jun 26, 2012
20
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Toronto
After deleting most/all of the Microsoft entries in my keychain, the fans seem to be back to normal. I used to have Office365 on my machine but recently deleted it so perhaps this was causing the issue with the "accountsd" process. I think getting rid of older logins that aren't needed may help as noted above by @Iperzampem0
 
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